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Help! Still plowing after 8 Years!!!

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Poster: A snowHead
philwig wrote:
zikomo wrote:
The snow plough ...continues to be extremely useful to very advanced skiers.

But the discussion is about learners.

zikomo wrote:
.... I am a pretty advanced skier recently retired and for the hell of it have decided to follow the BASI path to see how far I can get, and improve my understanding and technique. Feedback so far is I should have no problem from a skills perspective reaching L3 and if I really committed L4 could be achieved (I am less convinced of this!) ... And there is no doubt in my mind, from an educated perspective, that the snowplough is indeed the best way to build the fundamentals and it is also something that all advanced skiers should return to in order to both diagnose bad habits and refine their skills. I would encourage you to give it a try, really try and focus on making perfect rounded turns in the snowplough at low speed. Trust me, it is not easy and will quickly show up elements of your technique that could be improved as well as giving you a platform to do so.

I would encourage you to strive for the L4 and to make fewer assumptions about others.


@philwig Your statements were pretty focussed on how useless the snowplough is for anyone other than a complete beginner, or a "low level instructor" trying to get a badge.

I have made reasonable assumptions based on my interpretation of the level of knowledge you have displayed. I am sorry that I seem to have got it wrong. From your last post I can only now assume that you are a L4, and it is nice of you to offer your encouragement to continue to strive to reach your level. Please let me know if I have got it wrong again.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Did a couple of private lessons for a new client this month, each 90 minutes long followed by some video feedback. We didn't once work on "not snowploughing" just focused on the core skills and movements necessary to develop a foundation for further improvement. Those movements are the basis for all the skiing she will ever do. It's just the start of her skiing journey, but hopefully the progress she has made so far will stand her in good stead.

Thanks to Rob@rar for the video. The second half of the video is what I would like her to achieve and she has all the correct physical abilities. It is, however, the fear factor kicking in when the slope gets a little steep or bumpy or icy or too crowded that is the frustrating thing.
Other posters have suggested taking up snowshoeing etc. but the fact is that she loves skiing, albeit on gentle terrain! And she would love to explore other areas of the resort(s) but it is this limiting fear factor which inhibits her. I guess that she is just naturally overcautious (not a good attribute for progression I guess). Same with driving- she won't drive on motorways Crying or Very sad and looking after kids etc etc.
Regarding carrying boots and skis for her- after 16 week long trips to mountain resorts and numerous lessons on the local slopes ??
Some really good advice on here though Very Happy
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
pam w wrote:
the evidence presented to us suggests that she's had plenty of time to find out about it and really, really, isn't that bothered.

Actually that isn't the picture the OP has painted. He said "She loves the mountains and the whole skiing experience" and has said she is taking lessons in a fridge. I live 10 minutes from a fridge and have never set foot/ski on the slope there.
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GURNEY_SLADE wrote:
Same with driving- she won't drive on motorways

Wow. I think this may require some professional help... i.e., a pyschologist.
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 Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
I can relate to your other half. Whilst I don't resort to snowplough very often I am very easily scared by unexpected steep sections, ice, bumps, powder.... My boyfriend is very patient but I know he gets frustrated.
I would say if your other half really loves the mountains don't take that away from them but it might help if they did something just for them. Personally I was frightened to ski without my boyfriend until I joined ladies night at the local dry slope. There is no pressure yet we practice things I would otherwise refuse like jumps and poles. Although totally different from snow it has really helped me. I also like the look of the ski godess trips https://skigoddess.co.uk maybe this would help?
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Hi @GURNEY_SLADE, and of course welcome on board.

I can sympathise with you on this problem.

My dear wife is very similar, we've been sort of skiing since 1972 and she is still at the snow plough stage.
Her snow ploughing is pretty good now but it takes its toll in making her very tired.

She has had oodles of lessons in groups over the years and she likes to join beginners groups each time and although they are startled at her prowess, but one sniff of a red pole at the side of the piste and it all goes out the window Crying or Very sad

She broke her leg on a green slope three weeks ago and decided that is the end of skiing for her.

She is coming again ..but snow shoes are going to be the way to go.
She loves rambling and she did like the look of the trails around St Gervais Les Baines.

Perhaps we'll go back there next year.
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 Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
@DrLawn,
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She broke her leg on a green slope three weeks ago

Oh no! I hope it wasn't too bad a break and that she heals quickly.
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
Thanks @Hurtle its not a bad break, Tibial Plateau Fracture, but nothing is displaced and she should be good to go again in 4 weeks time.
I'm learning where all the strange things live in the house now ..
Airing cuppoard, washing line, hoover, dish washer...still havent found an ironing board whatever that is. Puzzled
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
DrLawn wrote:
still havent found an ironing board whatever that is. Puzzled
It’s like a snowboard with legs, apparently. Not sure how you use it though, surely the legs get stuck in the snow?
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@rob@rar
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It’s like a snowboard with legs, apparently. Not sure how you use it though, surely the legs get stuck in the snow?

Legs? They're surely handles! Like a snow scooter. You sit on top of where the 'legs' cross each other albeit a bit uncomfortable wink
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@GURNEY_SLADE, ah, that makes more sense!
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 And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
Laughing Laughing
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 So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
Ah ...Thanks lads I found it now...
There was a disabled guy using one of these in Hemmel a couple of weeks ago, I've just got to put it the wring way up.

Now whats an Iron?
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
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 Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
@altis, Very Happy Very Happy
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 Poster: A snowHead
Poster: A snowHead
DrLawn wrote:
Hi @GURNEY_SLADE, and of course welcome on board.

I can sympathise with you on this problem.

My dear wife is very similar, we've been sort of skiing since 1972 and she is still at the snow plough stage.
Her snow ploughing is pretty good now but it takes its toll in making her very tired.

She has had oodles of lessons in groups over the years and she likes to join beginners groups each time and although they are startled at her prowess, but one sniff of a red pole at the side of the piste and it all goes out the window Crying or Very sad

She broke her leg on a green slope three weeks ago and decided that is the end of skiing for her.

She is coming again ..but snow shoes are going to be the way to go.
She loves rambling and she did like the look of the trails around St Gervais Les Baines.

Perhaps we'll go back there next year.



47 years of snow ploughing - Wow, you must be very persuasive to keep punishing her for that long Laughing
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