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Ski Wax & Edge resulting in turn issues

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Had my skies waxed and edged before a recent trip. On the first day really struggled to engage the turn. Staying in the chalet was an ex ski instructor and he looked at my skies and told me the wax had been left on the edges and the edges sharpened right to the tip and tail. He removed the wax from the edges and used carborundum paper to take off the edge sharpness about 6 inches from both the top and bottom of the ski. The day after I was back to normal. Before I engage with the ski shop who did the service is his analysis correct and the route cause of me being unable turn?
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@martindcrowe@hotmail.co.u, I don’t think his analysis is correct, but I do think you have a case to take to the shop.

Sounds more like they left a hanging burr on the edges, which is hideous to try and ski on. Just means they disn’t finish the job. Or the machine had a fault.

The wax is a red herring.
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Sounds unlikely. I wouldn't imagine that wax would last a day on your edges. Also, I would have thought that edges should be equally sharp along the full length and struggling to initiate the turn wouldn't be as a result of the edge being too sharp.

What were the skis doing or not doing and how was it different to 'normal'? Also, I am assuming that these are piste skis with a standard profile rather than off-piste or park skis....
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Excess wax I doubt would have survived the first run, yes detuning the tips and tails would help but as @under a new name says sounds more like a burr. Why it is worth getting them done by a decent tuner rather than a random machine job in a ski shop.
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@Klamm Franzer, in the old days, if you were prone to “catching an edge” it was common to “detune” the tips and tails. It’s not necessary with modern, more shaped, skis.

And I think you are quite right re the wax.
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Welcome to snowheads Martin snowHead

I had similar situation to you this year and it was a hanging burr.

What I experienced on the first day was; At the start of the day the pistes had a coating of snow from overnight and when I would try and turn it just didn't feel right. My turns weren't predictable and always felt off and it was more so on one side than the other. All the time I just felt uncomfortable. Fast forward to mid afternoon and we happened to be heading back into town and across the bunny slope that had been compressed to an inch of its life....OMG....if my left ski touched the hardpack it was off, if I tried to turn right it was really scary. Fortunately we were close the hotel, so I bailed and went back to look at edges. I'd left a hanging burr on, I could catch it with my finger nail all along the ski and one ski was worse than the other. I had my tools with me, worked along the edges and carefully removed the burr with the gummy stone and then went back out onto same run. Excellent and no issues at all. I do sharpen tip to tail on my edges and don't detune them but that's me, never sure if its right or wrong I just follow The Piste Office guide.

So, if that sounds like your experience then my money is on a dodgy tune, I know mine was. However, since I do my own skis it was totally my own fault. I remember doing the edges quickly when I got back from the previous holiday but I don't remember finishing them off. Doh! Just have to spend more time on it next time Toofy Grin
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@davkt, while a random shop might be a problem, a machine isn’t necessarily. Bro-in-law’s shop does a very excellent machine tune.

But a mis-aligned setting meant a truly hideous couple of runs one day last season.
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Thanks guys, forgot to add context about 3" of fresh snow. I've being ski-ing for 10 years (twice a year) and it felt like I was a beginner, in fact it was a sensation I've never experienced before. It was worse when trying to engage the left turn, rather than turning kept going straight on and into the trees! It did get a little better as the day went on but by 3 o'clock I had had enough.
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@martindcrowe@hotmail.co.u, I feel for you. Last year in St Anton, my wife had the same issue, only she was convinced she lost the ability to ski. The skis were uncontrollable and erratic.

In the end, she asked if we could hire some “easier” skis to get her ski legs back. We went into the ski shop, and it was then that I remembered what a bad tune could do. Asked Roland to havd a look; his response: “Unskiable!”. A good tune later and all was happiness.

The point was that I had the skis done in a shop in Melbourne that gets really positive reviews. It never occurred to me that they could have screwed up.
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Have had unskiable skis after tuning a few times, once a shop left a hanging burr, once I left a hanging burr (got a lot of stick off the Mrs for that). These were easily fixed with a gummi. Third one was fat off piste skis at UCPA, they had ground the bases but not redone the base angles, leaving 0 degree base angle, on fat skis that was atrociously snatchy on piste.
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I've had that before from a bad tune, it felt like my skis were trying to kill me! Had them re-serviced and they were fine.
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under a new name wrote:
@davkt, while a random shop might be a problem, a machine isn’t necessarily. Bro-in-law’s shop does a very excellent machine tune.

But a mis-aligned setting meant a truly hideous couple of runs one day last season.


Agreed but a badly set up and maintained machine will be
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Bad machine no worse, @davkt, than a spotty kid workng for drinkng money with no training...
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under a new name wrote:
Bad machine no worse, @davkt, than a spotty kid workng for drinkng money with no training...

Agreed on that too, though bad machine and spotty kid could be why I pottered over to the Piste Office for a bit of a training course a while back and do my own now!
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Now is a great time to learn to do them yourself. Very Happy
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often it is the monkey holding the wrench which is the problem
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Is the other test for finding a hanging burr.... using a tissue run lightly down the edge ?

Besides using ones finger nail does any other method work on other peoples skis or boards is what Im asking .
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