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Austria: Kitzbühel/Kirchberg 2018/19

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Yesterday, 13th October, was Ski Opening for the new season at Kitzbühel, though only on a very restricted area at Pass Thurn. I decided to start my season and, since the skiing available at the Kitzsteinhorn glacier is currently restricted to one T-bar, I thought I might as well see what Kitzbühel had to offer for a change. Going up the Panoramabahn gondola the conditions did seem more suitable to mountain biking than skiing...



However, when I reached the top there was some snow in sight, about 50 cm on the piste, I reckon (where it hadn't been scraped away). This wasn't a local snowfall but old snow for old fogeys, snow which had been preserved from last season over the summer...



I hadn't expected great conditions and, as it was about 11 o'clock before I reached the slopes with a blue cloudless sky, I thought the snow would be soft. What I hadn't reckoned on was that others had been skiing there for two or more hours. When I followed a group round to the left where the piste you use to return to Kitzbühel goes, this is what I found...



Moguls. Ouch. This isn't the corduroy slope I would have dreamed of for my first piste of the season! Looking the other way where the run flattened slightly it wasn't all quite so challenging (though I did have my only fall of the day on this run near the bottom of the Resterkogel chairlift)...



And here is the view from the bottom station of the Resterkogel lift, showing much of the two available pistes...



It was a strenuous first day's skiing - I kept going for about two and a half hours before my legs wilted. Here's the view looking down the main piste...



And one skier managing it well...



The moguls weren't all you had to watch out for. Sometimes there was crossing traffic (but it was quite slow)...



All in all, it was an enjoyable if challenging first day. I did ten runs before retiring, the target I had set myself. It looks now as though the real snow might start arriving in a couple of weeks time.
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Well done for having a go, and thanks for the great pics!
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After coming home from a day in the mountains, on foot not very far from Kitzbühel, it seems rather bizarre that anyone would think of skiing on a day like today. It was most definitely shorts and t shirts conditions, lots of folk sunbathing on the summits in perfect "Kaiserwetter". Not sure quite what the point is of the lift company going to all this effort just so they can claim the resort "opened" in mid October. The "pistes" are very quickly going to turn into a collection of sugary soft moguls apparent in the pictures. Much better to stick with walking, climbing or biking until there is some real snow or at least cold enough for any snow (whether from last year or a snow canon) not to melt in the 20 degree afternoon sun.

The warm dry autumn weather seems likely to continue for the next week or so, suggestions of cooler damper conditions the week after next.
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Booked Kitz for New Year. Very much appreciate anyone who lives/skis around the area to keep posting pics. even if they are of no snow.
Many thanks in advance. Smile
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Dougie wrote:
Very much appreciate anyone who lives/skis around the area to keep posting pics. even if they are of no snow.


I gladly would but sadly have used all my allocated snowHeads disk space allowance. However, I can report that I had enjoyable if rather restricted skiing in the central Kitzbühel area today (the area opened yesterday for the first time this season). A couple of pistes are skiable, one running down from the Steinbergkogel to the Jufen chairlift and the other being at the Walde chairlift on the Hahnenkamm. The former was a good run with a couple of variants near the bottom but narrow in places. The Walde piste is rather short but quite steep on the direct descent. The snow is basically all artificial and was good but mostly hard. The lift company provided a shuttle service to get you from one area to the other, a new experience.

Summing up, the skiing is currently very restricted but what there is isn't bad. Not surprisingly the slopes weren't very busy. I trust the real snow will arrive before New Year (a little is forecast for this week).
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Hi @espri, I've been offered a fairly decent deal in Kirchberg for Christmas week and wondered if you have any experience of the recent seasons with minimal snow at that time of year? I know we can't predict the future but just wanted an idea of worse case.
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@Valluga, even in years when the snow proper didn't come till after Christmas (or even New Year), it was possible to get some skiing, though sometimes not all pistes were skiable. Last winter started well (snowwise), the two winters before that were poor. This winter is probably the poorest start I can remember, even on the Kitzsteinhorn glacier, but I still trust that the snow will come. Some is forecast for the next few days - we shall see how much difference that makes.

P.S. you can also see that all areas are starting to make artificial snow.
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Off out to St Johann for a couple of months from Jan 5th
I’m not worried about the snow as it’s not even December yet and they don’t need much around there on the grassy slopes to make it skiable.
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VolklAttivaS5 wrote:
Off out to St Johann for a couple of months from Jan 5th
I’m not worried about the snow as it’s not even December yet and they don’t need much around there on the grassy slopes to make it skiable.


And they'll have near 100% snow cannon coverage.

I went to Kitz in the mid 80s...snow cannon were a new fangled thing. They had them on one south facing slope on the way over to Pass Thurn
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If you look at the skimap here https://map.kitzski.at/de/winter/ you can find a neat feature. If you click on the days in the bottom right hand corner you can see the pistes that they plan to open on which days. For this coming weekend in addition to pistes at Pas Thurn the plans suggest the runs in the bowls between the Hahnenkamm and Pengelstein will be open, a mixture of blues, reds and blacks. There is some more snow forecast over the next few days (could well fall as rain lower down). For those worrying about Christmas etc, the prospects look pretty reasonable for at least some snow. I can remember worse starts to the season (years when the Hahenkamm race has had to be shortened) and the snow making facilities are much better now. Some years (like last year) there is good skiing in December (I can even remember skiing all the way down to the valleys in November) but most years not.
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Anyone here going to watch the racing in Jan?
As I will be there anyway I thought I’d go and see.
Any tips? Worth buying a seated ticket or not?
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Just bought a season pass (Superskicard)
I understand ski bus journeys are covered but how does it work on the trains? Would the train to Zell am See and Kitzbuhel be free with the pass or do you have to pay?
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I know the trains and regular buses up and down the Brixental are covered if you have a pass and are wearing ski kit. I believe transport (except actual ski buses between Fieberbrunn & Leogang ) between the Tirol & Salzburgerland is not covered

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Free ski bus use with the Super Ski Card according to terms for the relevant ski region. No free ski bus available between the Super Ski Card ski regions from the Kitzbühel Alps to Salzburg State and the other federal states. Check bus + traintimetables at: www.oebb.at (Austrian Federal Railways)
Hint mobility: Free travel between the resorts of 4 Kitzbüheler Alpen-regions - click here
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You know it makes sense.
@munich_irish, thanks
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The free trains are limited to "local journeys"... For example we often stay in St johann and use the train to ski in kitz... That's covered and free with a pass and ski kit... And they do check.

You would not be covered for journeys outside the Valley. I. E to zell am see

Only time that is included in during hannenkhamm week
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@enduroaid, oh yes? So if I go to Zell am See by train during Hahnenkamm week I don’t have to pay as long as I’m dressed in ski gear?
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Glued to webcams to see the streets of Kitz covered in the last few hours.
Www.kitz.net
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