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Ellis Brigham for ski boots

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Hi Folks,

I'm taking my son for a full day ski lesson this week at Tamworth Snow Dome and thought i might check out Ellis Brigham for a new pair of boots while there.

Does anybody have any experience of them?
Do they have a good reputation for fitting or should I go to someone like Lockwoods?

Thanks
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I got fitted at Ellis Brigham, but in Fort William, not Tamworth - fitter was pretty knowledgable and thorough I thought and I've skied nearly 40 years so would like to think I could smell BS. Shop was empty which helped I think, no rush.
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Got my last pair from Ellis Brigham in Chester, and received excellent service. Of course it all depends on the individual who you end up dealing with on the day, but as a company they seem very good.
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@ElDiablo, where are you based? Ellis Brigham at Tamworth may give you a good fitting, but many snowHeads use and are satisfied customers of fellow snowHead CEM at Solutions4Feet in Bicester.
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In general, I don't believe that you can really call most Ellis Brigham staff "boot fitters". Not to say that some aren't, just that very definitely not all are...
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The Swedish lady working in Ellis Brigham Covent Garden, last year, made a fantastic job of fitting mine. After lots of measuring to work out my boot options and her checking the shell fit of a few that I liked, I settled on Atomic Hawx Ultras. The job took approx 1.5 hours, including shell shaping (dodgy angle bone after breaking my left leg), as well as custom foot beds and liner moulding.

From day 1, they felt almost as comfy as my snowboard boots.

All I had to pay for was the footbed material.
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under a new name wrote:
In general, I don't believe that you can really call most Ellis Brigham staff "boot fitters". Not to say that some aren't, just that very definitely not all are...


Absolutely correct. When I went to the Chester store there was only 1 member of staff who was 'qualified' to do it - the rest were just selling clothing. As I said above though, he was very good. Probably pays to make an appointment at this time of year.
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@telford_mike, yep, a friend’s oldest son, a few years ago, fancied topping up his uni cash and did the Salomon boot and tech course which got him a job in a well known chain. So at the time, he at least was basically qualified in he was doing and had skied a lot.

He had a bad moment when a colleague sold a client a blatantly wrong pair of boots (not politic to intervene) and when he challenged later said colleague just said he was a snowboarder and knew nothing about skiing or ski boots...

He’s now doing a prof degree in podiatry, esp. foot bio mechanics.

Still sometimes does shifts in S&R if you’re lucky wink.
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Alastair Pink wrote:
@ElDiablo, where are you based? Ellis Brigham at Tamworth may give you a good fitting, but many snowHeads use and are satisfied customers of fellow snowHead CEM at Solutions4Feet in Bicester.


@Alastair, I'm in the West Midlands but travel in my job so able to get to Bicester for the right service.
I've read positive reviews about Solutions 4 feet before, so I might give that some consideration, Thanks
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Thanks all for your replies and advice.
It looks like you take pot luck who you get on the day with these large chains, so I will probably take the advice to go to a specialist fitter.

I know there's another thread on this, so will have a re-read of that and make my decision.

Thanks all.
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ElDiablo wrote:
Thanks all for your replies and advice.
It looks like you take pot luck who you get on the day with these large chains, so I will probably take the advice to go to a specialist fitter.

I know there's another thread on this, so will have a re-read of that and make my decision.

Thanks all.


I was fitted recently by Colin at Solutions4feet for my first pair of boots. Because they are fixed appointments you're not under pressure. Colin wont sell you the wrong boot, it's not worth his reputation! I have a weird hip issue which only became apparent at fitting and Colin was very patient whilst I decided on the path I wanted to take.

If you get free fitting with the boot purchase then it's not going to be up to much, at least thats my view on it. I think to a large extent it depends on your feet and biomechanics. YMMV at a chain store imo.
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The Tamworth branch is very good. Tom the manager there certainly knows His stuff. I'd have no hesitation in recommending there services.
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@Martin & Ami, "If you get free fitting with the boot purchase then it's not going to be up to much" try telling that to Sanglard, Sole Bootlab, Ravanell (Chamonix) and Backcountry (now Otley), etc. My first boots were fitted free by Colin in Bicester. He is obviously in the premier league now!

Don't confuse paying extra with quality. There are plenty of recommendations for consistently good boot fitting services on this site.
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So let me get this straight folks,

- a pair of boots costs in the region of circa £300-£450 now dependent on ability, weight, type of skiing, other features etc.

From what I have read and conversations with staff at Ellis Brigham last week, standard foot bed liners are crap, so essentially you need a custom liner -approx another £70??

Am I correct in thinking that if I got to a ski boot "fitter", there will be an additional charge for the fitter's time on top of that the profit they are making on the boots and footbeds?
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@ElDiablo, no. Generally the fitting is included in the cost of the boots.
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@ElDiablo, keep it simple.
1) With one or two notable superstar exceptions, there is no additional charge for having boots fitted at most reputable retailers. That is why those good shops don't offer discounts. You pay list price, and get a good service.
2) Don't confuse footbeds and liners. Both can be upgraded if necessary.
3) Custom footbeds are generally a very good thing (if correctly made). Once you have skied with a custom footbed it feels horrible without. Worth the £70/90 or however much they are.
4) Most good boots have OK to very good liners, heat mouldable by your super boot fitter. It has always struck me as a grotesque waste to spend £500+ on boots to immediately cast aside the stock liner (as is almost routine at one shop in Chamonix) and spend another £150 on an Intuition or similar. Use the stock one, then upgrade to an Intuition or Zipfit when it packs out, or when your abilities outstrip your gear.
5) Having paid a fair price for the boot and whatever else, good boot fitters will also offer a fit guarantee including boot stretching and other wizardry.
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@HammondR, thanks for the clarification.

Its been probably 10 years since I last bought a pair of ski boots.
I've bought a number of pairs prior to those and never paid any additional charges specifically for fitting.
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The 5 golden rules of skiboot fitting are:

1. Buy the right boot for current (and next) skill and age (e.g. junior model for junior skier).
2. Get a custom (molded) footbed (e.g. Sidas).
3. Fit custom-liners (foam-injected or cork) if they packout after a few weeks (e.g. Intuition).
4. Book the fitting appointment at the quietest time of the working week (e.g. Tuesday morning).
5. Review rules 1 to 3 at the start of every season (e.g. upgrade liners).

Rule 2 is by far the most important.

Good or bad footbeds can be "make or break" for good or bad riding.
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I have quite pronated ankles & had my Salomon xpro 100s custom fitted at EB Castleford at xcape, they felt a bit small for the first week but are now very very comfortable even when tight. The fitter suggested a softer flex as I like skiing bumps & offpiste, very pleased with the result but as others have said with a large chain store, there will be variability in staff, if you book Fred Bloggs at xyz boot store, you will know that you will get Fred and know his reputation.
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My experience isn't the best, went to MK a few years ago before I knew better, boots were far too big for me, lazy fitting. Last time I had some boots fitted was in resort in Verbier by Anya at Mountain Air and she did a fantastic job. If I get a pair in the UK I'm making the drive to see CEM at solutions4feet.
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All,

A quick update- I have an appointment with Colin at the end of the month at Solutions4 feet, so I’ll let you all have some feedback. Thanks again.
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