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Do skis die?

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I know over the years skis can lose their pop, and might not flex like when first new, but do bases reach a point where they just go slow?

I have a pair of Rossi S3s which have seen a fair bit of time on snow (mostly soft stuff) so there’s still plenty of edge left and the bases have only been ground once.

Last season they started running slow, we’re okay after a wax but that only lasted a few days.

Long story short, is it worth getting them ground again, or am i just going to accept a pair of 2011 skis have had their day?

Cheers
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@oz5000, I haven't experienced this and I have never read of it.

Where are you getting them serviced?
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@oz5000, How often do you wax them ?
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@oz5000, hmmm, bases can “dry out” (not really drying) with inadequate waxing which can have an effect?

Sorted out with a good grind and wax.

But I have a pair of ? 2007 Volkl SGs that are still plenty fast (although they are well cared for and only used about a week a year).
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@Layne, that’s great as neither have I and I was hoping no one else had either!

Thanks too@rjs, and @under a new name, usually do them myself regularly throughout the season but was reliant on a local shop last year and they were a bit of a bunch of muppets tbh.

Think it’s definitely worth dropping 40 quid on a full service based on your responses, cheers!
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@oz5000, doesn't sound like they need grounding again. Just give them a proper waxing yourself. Maybe the shop used crap wax or just did a poor job.

I just use standard universal wax (says 120 degrees on it), don't clean or hot wax but generous with the wax and get the bases as a hot as I dare (touchwood never damaged a base yet). Then leave the wax on as long as I can, give it a light scrape and polish. Wife always goes wow when she puts them back on and I've had no complaints from her (about the ski's!). I rewax after every trip - which can be 6 to 8 full days.
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I would learn how to hot wax a household iron works just fine.

Scrape off the excess.

Brush well.

Works for me.
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@TQA, household irons can be too hot melt the base delam the ski ... although I used to use one no problem
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@Layne, Yeah they don’t need a grind in terms of damage or gouges or anything, so maybe that’s a good shout!

I’m just glad they’re not dead (based on you lot) as they’re my touring set up too!
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@TQA, thanks, I’m all good on that front, was wondering if there might be something more serious at play.
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Could a lack of structure in the base be to blame? Just a thought...
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Answer to the OP:

Yes
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@Tubaski, well, something to do with the base preparation would be my guess too.

One of these should sort it:

http://www.kuzmin.se/pgs/scrapers_engl.html
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altis wrote:
......One of these should sort it:

http://www.kuzmin.se/pgs/scrapers_engl.html


Do NOT use a Kuzmin scraper on alpine skis.

oz5000, if your bases are flat with noticeable structure underfoot and the base edge angles are in reasonable shape then a base grind is not needed. A hot scrape clean followed by a base prep wax followed by a good uni wax (ie wide snow temp operating range). If you got some concavity/loss of structure/dodgy base edge angles then get a base grind. If you usually service your own skis then just get a grind and then after doing the side edge angles do the base prep described as it'll be far superior to a roller applied 'shop' wax without the cleaning cycle.
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Only skis I've skied to death, the torsional stiffness was the thing that really died and killed them. Anything else is fixable.
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@spyderjon, yeah I don’t really want to get them ground if they don’t need it.

Will give them a proper clean and hot wax, and take a spare pair out ‘just in case’.

Cheers for the input y’all Very Happy
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@oz5000, when you wax make sure you scrape well and then brush like mad with a good bronze brush to get it into the base
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Had a pair of '08 Mantra that had not see servise since 'the old days' and yeah they were going surprisingly fast for an unwaxed.
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spyderjon wrote:


http://www.kuzmin.se/pgs/scrapers_engl.html

Do NOT use a Kuzmin scraper on alpine skis.



Out of curiosity why would that be?
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One thing that can cause problems with older skis is that the bindings can drop off the 'approved bindings list'. When this happens nearly all pro ski shops will refuse to work on them even if the work is nothing to do with the bindings.

Ask me how I know this is.
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@TQA, approved bindings list is a very anglophone thing ...
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taking any particular interest in your ski setup is a very anglophone thing ...


fixed for you!! IME We're far more gear obsessed in general than our European counterparts.
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