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Light weight Alpine bindings?

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Hi, I'm looking to buy some light weight, Alpine bindings to fit on a pair of K2 Pinnacle 95s. I weigh about 73 Kg. I have been reviewing the Marker Squire 11 ID 110s but have read some reports of failures and that they can be difficult to step into in powder. I've also come across the Look Xpress 11, which are billed as being 700 g lighter than traditional alpine bindings at 700 g each. However, I can't find any adverts for the mounting plates, so wondered if they are only supplied as a factory fitted option, and haven't been able to locate any reviews. They also appear to have a maximum break width of 83 mm. I should be most grateful for any comments and/or recommendations.
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@Mike S, why do you need light bindings?
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@Mike S, I have the Griffon 13’s which are the big brother of the Squires (and also “feel” pretty light - without having checked the specs). Suspect the Squires will be fine at your weight unless you are skiing very hard on them.
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@Themasterpiece I've been doing some off-piste skiing and have often found that I've had to climb with skis on my shoulder or strapped to my back pack, so was trying to keep the weight down. I appreciate that the Pinnacles aren't very light but felt that they might be a good 'one quiver' ski for the type of skiing that I do. I don't think that I'm likely to be doing any serious touring and don't have pin tech inserts on my boots.

@BobinCH I've already got Griffon 13 Demo bindings on one of my other pairs of skis. I've been very happy with them. However, the Griffons are shown as being 1012 g each v 774 g for the Squires. See https://www.evo.com/guides/alpine-and-backcountry-ski-binding-weights#2018 , FYI.

Thanks for your replies.


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I have Squires and one failed. The first binding that’s ever broken under me in quite a lot of skiing.

Not saying that’s a problem...

But if you’re doing a lot of boot packing maybe you should be on a quasi touring rig?
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I have a pair of Squires, used with touring boots on a pair of Coombaks to facilitate boot packing. If you can afford it, and have the boots to fit, I'd go for a set of Tech (Dynafit) bindings as these will be even lighter -- and allow you to use skins should the temptation take you.
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What about Salomon/Atomic Shifts? Light for alpine bindings with the potential for some touring should you decide to explore that avenue.
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Thanks for your further replies. I had rejected the idea of a touring set up, as I don't have pin inserts on my boots and other available options seemed a bit heavy. I had read about the Salomon Shifts but hadn't appreciated, until prompted to investigate further by @Andybag 's suggestion, that they only weigh 1.75 Kg a pair. The only draw back is that it looks as though they are going to be a bit pricey - they have a price indicator of $US 650. I now notice that there appear to be two versions of the Squire - a standard version and an ID version. If I am only going to be using Alpine boots, is there any advantage in going to the ID version?
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@Mike S, If you plan to stay with your alpine boots forever -- then no. But, if you are starting to ski off piste a lot, and don't mind walking, then ski touring boots are probably somewhere in your future. Also I don't think Marker sells two versions of the Squire -- so you'll likely only find the ID version.
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At your weight Squires sound ideal as they are super light. Much of the negative feedback is from heavier skiers and, with so much plastic involved they have their limits.
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@Mike S, If you plan to stay with your alpine boots forever -- then no. But, if you are starting to ski off piste a lot, and don't mind walking, then ski touring boots are probably somewhere in your future. Also I don't think Marker sells two versions of the Squire -- so you'll likely only find the ID version.


Also grip-walk may be the way boot soles go (maybe not, but they seem like a good idea), in which case having a bit of height adjustment is a good thing even if you never get full on touring boots (do full on touring soles actually work properly in this binding?).
Squires are light, but to be honest I would get the new upcoming look pivots (also will be grip walk compatible), as I prefer them to ski on to Marker bindings, and they are not exactly heavyweights if you go for the 14 DIN version.
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(do full on touring soles actually work properly in this binding?).


According to Marker --- yes.
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I've skied a lot in the squires, and at 75kg I'm pretty similar to you. Whilst I try to look after gear I am quite pushy on what I make it do. No problems so far. And as for being difficult to step into in powder I can honestly and professionally say they don't know hat they are talking about - I guide cat skiing!

As for what a binding will take, any binding rated at 11 will take din 11 all day or it would not be sold! Yes a metal binding will take more abuse, but if you are breaking a binding you are probably going to be broken yourself in the same crash!
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Thanks for the additional input. I have now gone ahead and ordered a pair of the Squire 11 IDs from Snowlab, who had them at £116.99 with free delivery https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marker-Squire-11-ID-2018-Ski-Bindings-Black-110mm-/332427877667?hash=item4d663edd23. FYI, I could have got the 2017, non ID version, for £89. I look forward to trying them out.
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