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Poster: A snowHead
Sat 28-03-20 22:45
Replies: 68
1997 Just the 6 days skiing (a poor return) as we returned to flying and a TO package trip - Skiworld to Val Thorens. https://i.imgur.com/sqG9C7sh.jpg On this trip was my me, my skiing bestie, two guys we'd met on the La Tania trip in '95 - Gords and Mozza, and a couple that were good friends of my bestie and their son. Skiworld were same bunch of corporate shysters they are today but at £219 for flights and catered chalet we could afford overlook that. We nearly never made it as my mate played chicken with airport security, jesting about the ticking and the wires in our rucksacks. "Sir this is serious, if you make another joke...." - I saw his lips quiver. I knew what he was thinking... and was internally saying "Please don't". He also didn't like flying and so we also played chicken at the gate waiting until the last possible moment to board. The trip itself was grand. There was a good crew and the skiing was excellent as always. Although apart from me and my mate none were big in to of off piste so we tended to split off on slopes a lot. Costings: VAL THORENS (LE TROIS VALLEES) 18th - 25th January 1997 (6 days skiing) SKIWORLD Holiday Package £219 (Flight, Catered Chalet) Ski Carraige £15 Insurance (Carte Neige) £32.50 Lift Pass £117.50 Spending Money £65 TOTAL COST £449 - £74.83 (6)
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Sat 28-03-20 0:09
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So we're now onto 1996. And we're back to a two weeker. First week we stayed in Brides-les-Bains and the second week in Belle Plagne. We booked with Motours who did crossing and accommodation packages but new thing. Pretty sure we went in the Pug again. If I remember right my mate had bought a roofbox by now. One day we went over to the 4th valley and the weather closed in as the day went on. Vis went down to the end of your nose. Skiing down to Val T at one point I skied straight into a snow bank. Like in one of those cartoons I was imprinted. It started to get quite serious though as we had to ski down Lac de la Chambre which has a few ravines of the side. Remember that poor bastard who perished in Val D'Isere season before last in similar circs. We had to loop around each other to reach the next piste marker. A story that I recount to my wife and kids with tedious regularity. Just before I ask them how you know from the piste markers what is the right side and left side of the piste. Ohhhh dad, not again. https://i.imgur.com/vjrt4Xal.jpg Unlike the last time we did this the transition to La Plagne for week two went smoothly. I should think so, it's only up the road. These were the days before the Vanoise Express. I hadn't been to La Plagne before and for some reason wasn't super keen on it. It's now my most visited ski area. We met up with the Kiwi couple that chalet hosted in Le Praz back in '93. And he showed us a couple of the easy access off piste runs he'd sussed out. https://i.imgur.com/3vuufQ3l.jpg Costings: BRIDES-LES-BAINS (LE TROIS VALLEES) and LA PLAGNE 23rd March - 6th April 1996 (15 days skiing) MOTOURS Holiday Package £615 (Shuttle, AA cover, S/C accommodation for 2 weeks & 15 days lift pass) Insurance (Carte Neige) £35 road tariffs & petrol £140 Spending Money (including supermarket food) £75 TOTAL COST £865 - £57.66 per day Doing 15 days skiing on the spin is a weird experience. Having two planks attached to your feet becomes more normal than walking. Your skiing certainly improves with the mileage and intensity of training. There is a little bit of boredom for sure. I'd be inclined to take a day or two out these days, especially if the vis or weather was sh!te
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Sun 15-03-20 16:01
Replies: 70
Most suppliers will have a force majeure clause, its not their fault that everything is shut down, this is why we have insurance, my advice for ski holidays to keep things easy:- 1. Book a complete package, you rarely save a bean by trying to be cheap 2. Get a good travel insurance policy with winter sports and check EXACTLY what it covers 3. Pay a minimum of £100 on a credit card, anything purchased on credit leaves the credit provider jointly liable under section 75 of the credit consumer act 4. Buy the circa 3 euros per day lift pass insurance (carte neige etc) to avoid the hassle of a few thousand euro on the spot payment and then claim should you need a heli evac off the slope etc I've used Club Merde many times, IMHO they are now a vile company with way overpriced all inclusive holidays, my last stay at the Val d'Isere ***t hole was the final straw. I would not trust them with alternative bookings, credits or vouchers, claim the money back put it in the bank and start again when this has died down, preferably use some of the smaller businesses / hotels that actually care and still give great service, Good luck!
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Mon 9-03-20 15:56
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@Scarlet, I do a similar thing to you, Carte Neige (Optimum) plus bank account policy, always drive out.
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Thu 6-02-20 19:43
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Fri 31-01-20 11:29
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My personal experience of this is with the previous version of the season carre neige that was (still is?) available through the FFS and sold in ESF or tourist offices. The new one is cheaper but the medical T&Cs look the same. The difference is the geographical coverage in that it now only covers the ski area where your season pass is issued. Are you sure that you didn't have Carte Neige back then, not Carre Neige ? Carte Neige is still available with several different levels of cover.
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Fri 31-01-20 7:12
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Well, most French ski resorts won't sell you a season pass online, only in person at the ticket office. Are you sure? I've always bought mine for Les Deux Alpes online. My account now has my french address but I bought my first one from my uk address and it was posted to me. My girlfriend also buys her Alpe d'huez pass online and it is then posted to her french home. CdA here and SATA there. In fact I've just looked and you can buy a 3V pass online with carre neige for only 1336€ :shock: Here they sell Assur'Glisse rather than carte/carre neige, similar price. It states - Rapatriement : si l’état de santé de l’assuré nécessite un rapatriement, celui-ci est organisé et pris en charge par MUTUAIDE ASSISTANCE du lieu où l’assuré se trouve immobilisé jusqu’à son domicile ou à l’établissement hospitalier adapté à son état de santé en Europe Géographique. MUTUAIDE ASSISTANCE prend en charge les frais supplémentaires de transport des personnes assurées ASSUR’GLISSE SAISON PREMIUM accompagnant l’assuré immobilisé, dans la mesure où les moyens initialement prévus pour leur retour en Europe Géographique ne peuvent pas être utilisés du fait du rapatriement.
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Wed 29-01-20 13:22
Replies: 21
Did I read read that Carre/Carte Neige is only available if you are living in the EU? - If so, does this have implications for after we Leave?
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Wed 29-01-20 12:08
Replies: 21
Carre or Carte Neige is only useful when you are on snow. If you fall in the street or develop a medical condition you need a general policy, EHIC can help but most resort general practices are private so of no use. Like Claude I have Carte Neige and an MPI longstay policy. Carre Neige is also only valid for the resort you buy the pass from and for lift served off piste; Carte Neige covers all resorts and human powered off piste!
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Mon 13-01-20 11:02
Replies: 30
They normally keep hold of skis, snowboards, etc as a guarantee unless you have carte neige or their local alternative.
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Sun 12-01-20 8:50
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It does sound a bit much. Moral, for me, is to spend the price of a coffee on Carte Neige. Or Carre Neige, as appropriate.
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Tue 7-01-20 14:39
Replies: 43
Thanks guys, the tip about ASDA has been very helpful. For the last few years I have been insured through MPI Brokers (Aka Douglas Cox Tyrie years ago when I was in the SCGB) mainly because of the off-piste cover without a guide and my advancing years. I went to renew my annual multi-trip policy at the weekend and got a quote £40 more than last year - which itself was not that cheap at £146. Tried to get through to MPI today but their phone system was awol going straight to answerphone - so I left a message. In the meantime turned to Snowheads - been a "member" for quite a few years and found this thread. Went to ASDA, very good site, worked quickly and ended up with an annual superior multi-trip policy at a total of £120 - this with a declared medical condition (extra £20) and age 75 years. Had worked through the T&Cs etc to check off-piste and it looks ok. I do have Austrian Alpine Club cover - repatriation worldwide and Rega in Switzerland and probably Carte Neige in France - possibly over insured! Over 75s in PDS get a free local pass so hopefully the Soul 7s will get a workout this winter!
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Mon 6-01-20 16:28
Replies: 43
Given the French propensity for taking cash up front I have no idea what happens if you are on your own and unconscious without the Carte Neige You would be looked after with the utmost care, that's what would happen. @pam w I should imagine so. The only doubt in my mind arises from the repeated scare threads on here...
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Mon 6-01-20 13:26
Replies: 43
Given the French propensity for taking cash up front I have no idea what happens if you are on your own and unconscious without the Carte Neige You would be looked after with the utmost care, that's what would happen.
Poster: A snowHead
Mon 6-01-20 13:09
Replies: 43
Carte Neige means you don't have to pay out the cash up front. But if you have a credit card with you and don't mind spending on it then that shouldn't be a problem. Carte Neige also covers off piste which many premium bank accounts don't without a guide so it can be useful as a top-up for this purpose. Don't forget to take your EHIC card too. Given the French propensity for taking cash up front I have no idea what happens if you are on your own and unconscious without the Carte Neige.
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Sat 4-01-20 9:07
Replies: 14
Snap! I’m going to La Tania at the end of the month. Usually we stay in Meribel Motterat, which is pretty central, so La Tania will be a bit different. First off is to definitely take the plunge/cost and get the three valley pass (I’d also recommend the carte neige insurance, that the resort offers when buying the card, but again quite pricey. Courchevel has certainly got enough to do for a couple of days, but has become quite ‘new money Russian’ so has become expensive and the usual rudeness exists from your fellow skiers. The routes around signal mountain are usually pretty quite but hit them early as they can get cut up later in the day. Budget a day trip to get to Val Thorens to ski and back. Don’t miss last lifts, it’s an expensive mistake. Folie Deuce in VT i think is the better one. Restaurants - I’ve forgotten some names, but just by the top of St Martin Express lift is a good spot for a break. Once saw Kate and Will royalty in there, and the bloke that owns it is a friendly ex rugby player. We love Corbleys for lunch of tarte flet / tarte chèvre which is at bottom of st Martin express. There’s quite a grumpy waitress there, that makes for entertaining watching when she snaps at Russians. The runs around the way are superb and really long. Jerusalem was my favourite and would recommend skiing all the way into st Martin, which also is a nice spot for a coffee. Grand lac is a lovely long blue, where you can easy ski and take it all in! It’s so big/long tends not to get busy. Mont vallon is a good shout, but needs to be timed well for when the sun hits (I think in afternoon) and it not being busy / cut up. There’s a few ‘tracks’ on the runs that are quite tight to the edge and isn’t too pleasant when you git someone in front that’s unpredictable and someone impatient behind. Once you’re through that though it’s pretty awesome. Good restaurant for the deckchairs at the top! There’s a good app for three valleys and obvs get ski tracks as well. So much to go at, I certainly can’t wait!!
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Wed 25-12-19 16:36
Replies: 10
Just out in Val Thorens for the Xmas week and pre booked our lift passes with tour operator. They didn't provide carte neige option. (Not allowed to sell insurance ?). We went to ticket office and had it added to both lift passes for €2.9 per day per person so all is good. I thought I'd add this for info as we didn't have that info prior to booking but apologies if you all already knew
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Mon 9-12-19 19:43
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More comprehensive is carte neige, but for that you need to belong to a french ski club and have a dr certificate saying you're fit to ski. Membership of the club and full race insurance is only €140, the checkup and medical certificate was €40 from the medical centre in Tignes. A "leasure" licence with the next level down in insurance cover is €75.
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Mon 9-12-19 19:25
Replies: 7
what's wrong with carre neige? Will cover you for the specific resort including lift accessible off-piste. More comprehensive is carte neige, but for that you need to belong to a french ski club and have a French Dr's certificate saying you're fit to ski. ...posted in a rush, basically same as @rjs's advice.
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Mon 9-12-19 17:59
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If you will be basically living in Tignes then you presumably wouldn't need the repatriation bit of a UK policy. Maybe look at the French Alpine Club (CAF) or Carte Neige through the Club des Sports in Tignes.
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Sun 1-12-19 16:21
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Hi all, firstly I hope everyone has a good ski season. We are going to France for 1 month, driving, staying in resort but skiing probably 2 days a week max.will ordinarily travel insurance with carte neige be sufficient should we need repatriation or just buy the usual winter sports insurance. Thank you
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Wed 27-11-19 16:20
Replies: 8
Carre neige is just one of the several resort/lift company/ESF insurances available in France concentrated in the Savoie. Carte Neige is available in Isola 2000, Snowrisk in the PDS, Insuranse Forfait+ in the Grand Massif and probably several others. With Snowrisk if you buy the insurance at the same time as your pass then the insurance is automatically linked to your pass. As a secondary insurance cover you need to make a value judgement as to whether any additional cover provided is worth the extra money. I buy Carre Neige on top of my annual insurance when on Bashes because the small cost is worth paying for the additional peace of mind should I have an accident while on my own. Carre Neige provides no extra benefit for me when I am away skiing with my family. All the accidents and recoveries we have had have been dealt with swiftly by my Travel Insurer with the benefit of an English speaking case handler to organise the hospital and repatriation ambulances and flight. Never had to get the credit card out to be recovered from the mountain (later in the chain, ambulance transfers ,yes) just name and address for a helicopter recovery, more recently name and email address for a standard blood wagon recovery. In both cases the insurance company paid the recovery direct.
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Wed 27-11-19 10:13
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I don’t think the procedure is too complicated. Provide you have it on you at the time of an accident, when the pisteur puts you on the blood wagon, he/she fills out the details of your carte neige on the paperwork. I think that's typical. When I got taken to the medical centre by bloodwagon all that was required was a signature after they had seen my Carte Neige policy. BTW, the insurance you buy with your lift pass is called [url=https://carreneige.com/en/]Carre Neige. You can also buy an annual policy, with a variety of option for what is covered, and this is called [url=http://www.ffs.fr/federation/licence-carte-neige]Carte Neige. These are two different products, although I think in-resort rescue services treat them in the same way.
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Wed 27-11-19 10:06
Replies: 8
@ymh, We had to claim via Carte Neige a couple of years ago. Not for injury but for loss of ski time when the resort was shut down due to bad weather and avalanche risk. There was a delay but only because the lift pass office initially told us to claim through them for credits. It took a little while before they told us that if you have taken out Carte Neige then your claim is with them. The lift pass office issued affidavits which stated when and where there were shut-downs (even partial closures). These were submitted with our claim to their office in Bourg S M. Once in they were dealt with fairly quickly and we received a cheque for several hundred euros. (better than a credit if you're not likely to return to the same resort).
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Tue 26-11-19 22:54
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I don’t think the procedure is too complicated. Provide you have it on you at the time of an accident, when the pisteur puts you on the blood wagon, he/she fills out the details of your carte neige on the paperwork. We experienced this with a young friend of the family when she fell on her second run of her holiday and I recall he had piste side paperwork on him. If you don’t have it on you, it’s a bit more of a faff as you will need to produce it at some point.. Still definitely worth having-though NOT the same as full travel insurance which you should always have for things like ambulance transfers etc. I think our young friend was also able to claim back the cost of the balance of her lift pass on the carte neige too-but I think that came after a bit more form filling.
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Tue 26-11-19 22:42
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Has anyone made a claim on a carte neige insurance policy, and if so what is the procedure. I feel slightly apprehensive taking up this cover its literary chucked at you with no questions asked, no boxes to tick, no T and Cs to navigate, just a shop receipt that you spend the rest of the holiday paranoid at the thought of losing.
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Mon 18-11-19 18:38
Replies: 15
@simonx, do her employers not provide cover? Carte Neige - just renewed mine €58. It’s a top up on normal insurance and may not be required. My first seasonaires insurance in 1988 was provided by Hogg Robinson if they still exist ...
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Mon 18-11-19 13:17
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MPI or DogTag plus carte neige. Remember to include off-piste when looking for a quote - during a season she'll be trying it. :sH:
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Mon 18-11-19 10:51
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@Layne, had a look at ASDA insurance and it's certainly cheap enough. I think you ski off piste as well IIRC. Will you supplement the ASDA policy with Carte/Carre Neige? Asda covers off piste so need for CN as far as I'm concerned. My only concern with the Asda insurance is that personal accident or liability is not covered for snow parks. If I have time I will look into ways to mitigate against that otherwise I will have to shoulder the risk.
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Mon 18-11-19 10:15
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@Layne, had a look at ASDA insurance and it's certainly cheap enough. I think you ski off piste as well IIRC. Will you supplement the ASDA policy with Carte/Carre Neige?
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Sun 17-11-19 22:27
Replies: 15
Carte Neige season insurance will be included with her season pass if it's being provided as part of her job? It was a 40Euro add on last year on a workers pass if not. Chances are in a whole 5 months she may need to claim for something insurance wise so don't go for the cheapest! A standard annual/backpackers policy might be ok tho, just check maximum trip length, any trips back to the UK will reset the trip as it were, I've had to prove this in the past when claiming for something(flight bookings only).
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Sun 17-11-19 21:18
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She needs a carte neige for the season. Carre neige is for holidaymakers. Mine costs me about €75. But she also needs comprehensive insurance, e.g. MPI.
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Sat 16-11-19 14:14
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@jbob, just picking back up on that, if you buy a Carte Neige, it will ask which club you want to be a member of. If you don't join a club, there are additional fees. If you join a club there are maybe fees. If you select department 74, there's a club called "MultiGlisse" who specialise in Biathlon (!). Anyway, €0 joining, €0 subscription so you only pay the actual cost of the CN.
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Fri 15-11-19 8:07
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@jbob, the seasonal one is Carte Neige. It can be bought online, the trick is finding a club with minimal club charges. For many years I alternated between the Annemasse Postal Workers Union and the St Julien de Genevois Border Guards Union Ski Clubs (seriously, I did, true story). The other snag is that I think you may need a relatively current medical certificate. Friends have used the Vieux Campeur one but I don’t think anyone had to make a claim. AGF which may now be Axa have a similar policy. I think iirc I always went with CN as it covered the Inferno despite my Swiss insurances doing so as well.
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Fri 15-11-19 0:35
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@under a new name, last year In Aosta it was included with the pass plus I had Austrian AC insurance. The Carre Neige one seems to be the one for a season but the office in Le Tour is long gone and it can’t be bought online direct but rather through resort offices. Another thought is the https://www.auvieuxcampeur.fr/carte-club/ carte, anyone have experience of them.
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Fri 15-11-19 0:12
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@deadkenny, Just a point, you did NOT post those sites originally. So it was not a pathetic question. And just because the rest of us don't get caught by net scams doesn't make you at all clever. Get a life. And move on. @jbob, Carre or Carte? Which reminds me I haven't worked out my insurance! EE-GLOOWW (?) So it's €69 / winter vs (around €55 for carte neige till November and it I presume only covers you for Chamonix...) I think I will just go Carte Neige. Again.
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Sun 10-11-19 15:56
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A tricky question really. Wife and I joined after bumping into a rep / leader in Meribel in about 1994/5 we had a great time skiing with him and other groups for a few years. I then did a number of Freshtracks holidays- long weekends and weeks instruction, with guides- / instructors and these were very good indeed. Have done one days instructor led guiding in Argentiere which was excellent and amazing value for money. There was just me, my son and 1 other all day skiing off the front and back of the Grands Montets. But.....things seem to have changed a lot, although so have our family ski trips as these have more recently been are oriented around les Houches and I have to say I've found the general offer of the SCGB magazine and website to be very off putting. I can't quite put my finger on exactly why I like: Freshtracks holidays, Instructor Led Off Piste , discounts (although I usually get stuff on line / discounted so arrely am eligible for a SCGB discount) I don't like: the magazine, the change to the reps / leaders or the idea that now I'm subsidising someone going on holiday for a week or month who just has to turn up in a bar a few times. Th efact that it migt as well be called the SKi Club of Richmond (not the one in Yorkshire). Insurance; we use MPI / Carte Neige
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Thu 31-10-19 21:53
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@davidof, You can add Mountaineering cover to Carte Neige too for €15. Carte Neige seems to cover fights so long as you didn't start them. True and the CAF insurance too under the same terms.
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Thu 31-10-19 21:41
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@davidof, You can add Mountaineering cover to Carte Neige too for €15. Carte Neige seems to cover fights so long as you didn't start them.
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Thu 31-10-19 21:00
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@under a new name, I might have a better idea to the answer to that question by the weekend, as will be chatting to a few people as we're all discussing insurance options for the coming season. Also @davidof, might have a better idea. I'm always amazed at the cover that is offered for the price. Carte neige is more downhill / off piste ski oriented and CAF more mountaineering. If you ski on piste you need to check the CAF covers this, I didn't see it excluded. However you are not covered for fights - so maybe not so good for some snowheads.
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