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Poster: A snowHead
Thu 16-01-20 19:52
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@VolklAttivaS5, We were just temped to pay €40 for a taxi to stay in Zell for the evening for a change with a bit of skiing. The night skiing is included with the Alpin Card pass (I believe). Any recommendations for dinner in Zell (3 adults 2 kids - mid way prices ok)? If you are planning on staying for the night skiing I would recommend the Kupferkessel restaurant It is about 100m from the end of the night slope and about 100m from the train station for taxi back to Saalbach, not to mention probably my favourite restaurant in Zell. Great varied menu, pizza, pasta, grill, schnitzel etc. It’s very popular with locals as well as tourists so would be a good idea to book in advance. Failing that let me know what food/vibe you are after and I can recommend somewhere
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Thu 16-01-20 16:12
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@toyah807, Is the glacier at Kaprun not worth it? On the map looks like quite few reds and a few blacks so I was temped. Is it just a lot of faff getting there when coming over from Saalbach? It depend what you want, pluses are good snow when other areas are lacking but this makes it busy at these times, freeride runs good, park and pipe excellent. Views over the Hohe Tauren National park and the exhibitions at the top station are also worth a visit if you are there as is the Ice Bar. If you are after reds and blacks, best black in the areas is 14 (Trass abfarht in Zell) Google Trasslauf to see how it should be skied, Best Reds in Zell/Kaprun are probably on the Sonnkogel side.
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Sat 2-11-19 20:31
Replies: 368
Just on my way back from a week in Zell, picked up my season pass for bargain 590 euro Not much being made of the connection to Saalbach in the local advertising, more on the connection of Maiskogel to kitzsteinhorn Main reasons to come across to Zell from Saalbach for me would be 1) Blacks 13 and 14 (not sure if they have changed number this year) 2) Views from Schmitten down the valley to the lake especially if frozen Main reasons to go from Zell to Saalbach for me 1) longer day tours/loops 2) chicken man 3) apre ski
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Tue 17-09-19 11:04
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Steam train from Zell to Krimml is a great trip, see https://www.pinzgauerlokalbahn.at/content/website_pinzgauerlokalbahn/de_at/nostalgie/NostalgiefahrtenWinter.html for details and dates
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Sat 23-02-19 20:30
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If your non skiing guests like walking there is a lovely winter walk across the tops from the Schmittenhohebahn to the Sonnkogelbahn from which you can download by the chair and Sonnenalmbahn back to town
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Sat 23-02-19 20:10
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If your non skiing guests like walking there is a lovely winter walk across the tops from the Schmittenhohebahn to the Sonnkogelbahn from which you can download by the chair and Sonnenalmbahn back to town
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Sat 23-02-19 19:43
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My apartment overlooks the Ebenbergbahn and it is most definitely open every day 0900 - 1630 (1500 on night ski days), we use it daily to access the Cityexpress, the quick blast down to the Cityexpress is often one of the best runs of the day, however the top section of piste down to City express is quite steep and will generally be quite firm first thing in the morning so I would not recommend for beginners. I have been coming to Zell summer and winter for 5 years since we bought our apartment and cannot remember a single time when we have not felt welcome in any bar/restaurant with the kids and we have 3 boys 10, 9 and 5. Would definitely recommend the Kupferkessel at the bottom of Skiliftstrase for a large group, would be best to reserve a table as very popular with locals as well as tourists. The Steinwirt kids play room is only open during the summer I believe, however it is an excellent restaurant and has a nice chilled out area at the back for more genteel apre ski I would not recommend taking beginners up to the Kitz, possibly try the Maiskogel area in Kaprun if you fancy a change of scene, it’s a great little area for beginners to improve on.
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Tue 2-10-18 13:55
Replies: 368
Interestingly the straight line distance between top of Kitz to center of Fieberbrunn is 32.05km or about 55km using actual, planned or mystical transit lifts (between Maiskogel and Piesendorf) according to Google Maps. Would be a great days skiing and would make a great race!
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Tue 2-10-18 9:17
Replies: 368
Which ever of these projects goes ahead first I cannot think (when you combine with the K‑ONNECTION in project in Kaprun) of any other ski area world wide that is investing in infrastructure the way Salbaach, Hinterglem, Leogang, Fieberbrunn, Zell, Kaprun has over the last few years and the up coming ones. All available on the Ski Alpin Card for bargain price of 560 Eur (when compared to other areas). I am out in Zell at the end of October for a bit of early season skiing on the Kitz and will try and find out any new info.
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Wed 26-09-18 14:08
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Yes, should have bought that hotel in piesendorf that was on the market last year! I used to have a copy of the plans from 2010 but can’t find them now but if I remember there was 3 new lifts and 4 new runs, which is more what the area needed I believe rather than the link run to Saalbach which will only be a transit route as far as I’m concerned, not bad to ski but maybe a little narrow and steep in places for some and not worth lapping round
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Tue 25-09-18 15:40
Replies: 368
https://www.inthesnow.com/big-expansion-of-austrias-zell-am-see-ski-area-gets-green-light/amp/ Not seen this anywhere else
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Mon 24-04-17 21:28
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I too spent last Friday on the Kitzsreinhorn with my three boys and would agree with the above that it was one of the best days skiing I have ever have had, the boys who are 4, 7 and 8 had a ball on the lovely grippy snow on the pistes and the older boys had their first experiences of deep powder off piste Considering the conditions and the number of cars in the car parks I did not find the slopes at all busy and the only time I can remember a queue was after lunch at the Alpinecenter All in all it was a great end to this years ski season for us. Roll on next year when there should be some big developments in the Zell/Kaprun area
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Thu 26-01-17 13:53
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Hi @quinton Thanks for the info, but I'm still going to take the train though. They run every hour at 45 past the hour and return 56 past each hour. It only takes 18 mins ... but the real reason I want to take the train is ... Deep down, I'm a bit of a train spotter, the Doctor Zhivago type of the ride through the snowy countryside will feel like magic. But thanks for the good alternative advice, Vorderglemm if we make it that far has a special meaning for me too, perhaps Friday? If you are in Zell and really like trains you should look at a trip on the Steam train run by Pinzgaur LokalBahn http://www.pinzgauer-lokalbahn.info/ We usually take a trip up the valley with the kids when we are there at Christmas and it really is very special.
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Fri 27-05-16 16:23
Replies: 368
Try this http://viehhofen-mittelstation.live-panorama.com/
Poster: A snowHead
Fri 27-05-16 15:57
Replies: 368
Looks like good progress being made on the new lift station, link shows time lapse photos of the construction of new piste and station. http://viehhofen-mittelstation.live-panorama.com/ Also announced at the agm of Schmittenhohebahn this week that the bottom section of the Areitbahn will be replaced next summer with a 10 seat high speed gondola increasing uplift by 50%. I have also heard rumors that the proposed lifts and slopes above Piesendorf may well be resubmitted with some modifications.
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Wed 10-02-16 10:28
Replies: 16
Looks like you are in Zell and skiing under the Glocknerbahn which is a great area for learning, if you are looking for a private lesson let me know and I could recommend an instructor however with it being Fasching week they may well all be booked up. Nice skiing by the way.
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Tue 9-02-16 10:40
Replies: 33
Zell run is Red 6 and uses Ebenburgbahn for access, you can ski down to Cityexpress station but no way back up from there.
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Tue 9-02-16 10:24
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I have done Obergurgl and Zell, Obergurgl is longer, blue run with some sections of road, accessed by Festkoglebahn and has the wonderful Nederhutte 3/4 of the way down. Zell is shorter, steeper (red) wider, access is by 2 man chair and has better lights. They have a Europa cup night slalom on the Zell piste so the lights need to be good. Zell piste is low 700m at bottom so may well be closing on the 4th, I think if the snow is ok and remains cold nights they might extend it a bit. Overall I think I enjoyed Zell more as you could loop round a few times then pop into a bar to warm up and then go for a few more runs ( I might be a bit biased as my apartment is 75m from the bottom of the night slope). Any Saalbach/Hinterglemm guys know if the night slope there will be open at Easter and is it included on the Ski Alpin season pass?
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Thu 28-01-16 11:16
Replies: 51
Just a thought, approx 80% of people in Austria have first aid training of some sort (it is compulsory requirement for a driving license) compared to approx 5% in the UK, I know there is no guarantee that someone with training would intervene and help but having more people trained has got to be better surely. As was said above someone who requires cpr or defib is dead so you can't get much worse really.
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Fri 22-01-16 15:03
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I would say 10-15 mins max to drive to Kitzsteinhorn, I have never used the bus as always have a car. We have skied a few times at October half term and it can be limited with anything from fresh powder to glacial ice but hey it is October and you are skiing. When I was there in November last year there were a few people out on their bikes around Langweid on the Kitzsteinhorn but this was a pretty mild autumn. I would have thought most biking in October would be in the valley. One thing in October/November there are not many restaurants etc open in the town, only ones that the locals tend to go to regularly.
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Thu 21-01-16 22:08
Replies: 368
Hammerite Schmittenhohe is not huge but it does have a bit of everything, good mix of runs for all abilities ( blacks 13 and 14 are some of my favourite runs anywhere) good mix of aspects and plenty of tree skiing for poor weather days. Kitzsteinhorn is about 10 mins away and extends ski season to October to May/June No marked mountain biking at Zell as far is I know but several downhill trails at Kaprun and as you say Leogang is pretty close. We bought our place without even skiing there based on how great the place was in the summer. The lake is amazing, town very vibrant and great walking in the hills. If you have any more questions get in touch Cheers Mark
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Thu 21-01-16 9:46
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Video of the of the ski route down to Viehhofen courtesy of the guys at Crazy Daisys. https://www.facebook.com/Villa-Crazy-Daisy-256697181020730/?fref=nf I must admit I was not hugely bothered about the link to Saalbach as I would normally drive round anyway but this new run looks good, should hold snow well due to its aspect and if Salbaach do put the link back up to the Schonleiten I will certainly ski across. Just got to get back to planning a nice day route now.
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Thu 21-01-16 9:16
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I have not done the evening but the food in the restaurant is excellent, we had our lunch there on Christmas day this year sat on the terrace (in a t shirt!!) and it was amazing. Good wine list to if that is your thing.
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Wed 20-01-16 10:15
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The ski route/ soon to be piste down to Viehhofen opened today for the first time this year, Schmitten facebook page has several photos and I must admit it looks like a great run in he pictures. https://www.facebook.com/schmitten.at/ I hope the snow is as good when I get back out in about 6 weeks time
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Tue 12-01-16 14:11
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@AthersT, Ah unfortunately I'm viewing it all from my sofa as I don't get out there till 23rd... *big sigh, grits teeth and comences dancing* (which is tricky while typing If you really love the Trass you could try this on 30th this year I believe, http://www.trasslauf.at/ I would love to try it one year but need some work on my fitness. Getting back to the weather, I have been talking to my apartment manager a lot last night and today (my current guests set fire to a pair of socks on a radiator, pictures available on Zell fire brigade website :roll: ) and she tells me that 30+ cm fell yesterday at top of Schmitten and locals predicting quite a bit more over the next few days. Mild last night around +2 in the village (at least not too cold for all the other residents of our apartment building when they were evacuated) but dropping rapidly today. The lake definitely does not freeze as often as in years gone by. I have never managed to skate on it but would love to one day.
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Fri 4-12-15 12:47
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My family and I ski with the Lions at Castleford, we have members from 3 years old to .... not sure they would like me to mention and can cater for all abilities except for absolute beginners. We meet on Sunday mornings and Monday evenings for race group. The club run few trips to the alps throughout the season. We are generally a friendly bunch who just love skiing. Have a look at the website http://www.lions-skiclub.org/ if you want any more info.
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Tue 24-11-15 17:37
Replies: 94
Great photos again, looks quite a bit better than 10 days ago. The tunnel through to the Gletschershuttle is very interesting, although when we went through and up to Gipfelwelt 3000 for a coffee the Gletschershuttle broke down leaving us approx 100m from our skis with no way of getting to them other than a riding down in the Gipfelbahn and back up the Gletscherjet 3 and 4. It was a bit annoying but I guess these things happen, the Gipfelbahn driver was very apologetic and the coffee was good. Can't wait to get back out at Christmas now.
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Wed 11-11-15 9:23
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I too have spent the last few days up on the Kitzsteinhorn as Espri says snow conditions not bad but not great, as you would expect better earlier on and higher up. Talking to various people conditions were excellent up until last weekend when the increased number of skiers and warm weather began to take its toll. The new lift system is excellent and the queues are much reduced from previous years from my memory. The new piste layout has improved the congestion a bit also but still busy in areas with large parts closed for race training. Having a shopping day today but will be back up tomorrow so will report anything else that comes to mind.
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Thu 29-10-15 14:45
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@Samerberg Sue, Thanks for that might have to change my route for my annual trip to Ikea in Salzburg if Walserberg is that bad
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Thu 29-10-15 14:12
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I am heading out to Zell next weekend and will be driving from Munich Airport, I usually go via Niederndorf, Lofer etc or Siegsdorf, Inzell, Lofer depending on what my sat nav predicts the traffic will be like. Any locals have any idea which will be least affected by border controls or have any other routes that will be better. Leaving Munich around 1300 on Saturday?
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Fri 23-10-15 14:12
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It really is a straight forward drive, I have done it in all weathers and the only tricky moment involved a HUGE stag and an associated herd of deer at dusk one evening. You will have a great time I am sure.
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Fri 11-09-15 16:04
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New piste map for Zell on the Schmitten website, I see that Saalbach/Hinterglemm as well as Viehhofen sneeking in on the right hand side now, also a lot or re-numbering of runs gone on. http://www.schmitten.at/en/winter/ski-area/ski-map-bus
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Tue 11-08-15 13:48
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I too look forward to hearing what Hecherhutte people say, I have never been there but I can imagine a summer evening up there with good food must be idyllic. I will pencil in a trip in for next summer. Do you have to book?
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Tue 11-08-15 11:58
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That was my assumption too, I would guess that Zell/Kaprun would contribute greater share of costs as they have more to gain from the link. I am intrigued to know how revenue from ski pass sales would be distributed among the various lift companies. I assume with electronic passes it is possible to track which lifts you use and distribute the income proportionately. I hope we get some decent snow this year and you can get your peaceful turns in on 68 before us rabble from Zell descend on you! Although I am not sure how busy the link will become though as thinking about it, from my place near Ebenbergbahn I would have to take 4 lifts (Ebenbergbahn, Cityxpress, Trassxpress and "New Lift From Viehhofen") and ski 4 pistes (Rehnstrecke, Standardabfahrt, Sonnengrat and "New Piste to Viehhofen") to get into the outer edge of S-H area. Yes it would be some nice skiing esp Standardabfahrt early in the morning (one of my favorites) and I believe the new piste to Viehhofen should be great but if I want spend a day in S-H i would probably still drive round (20 min) or get bus and spend all day in S-H. I do see the benefit of the link for marketing purposes but unless I want to see how far from home I want to get and back in a day I am not sure how much I would use this link. Now I have been thinking about this I am starting plan a day route to see how far I could get into S-H area and still make it back to home subject to links being in place. Roll on November I have had enough of summer and playing bad golf and would like to do some bad skiing and boarding
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Tue 11-08-15 10:44
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I have just noticed on the S-H website that they are building a new reservoir around the Polten area, does anyone know if this is to support existing snow making in that area or is it a precursor to installing snow making facilities on Piste 68 to Viehhofen in order to extend the season for this slope which would obviously be vital to any link future link to Zell. Anyway I am very impressed with the S-H lift companies ability to throw cash around and they really are developing an world class ski area.
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Mon 10-08-15 10:44
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Thanks for the updates everyone, I have not been able to make it out to Zell this summer but will be there in Nov and should be able to report on the new lifts/piste layout on Kitzsteinhorn then. These really are some exciting developments for the whole area.
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Wed 10-06-15 16:11
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I met my wife in the disco carriage of the Calais to Bourg sleeper train and the proposed on same train a few years later. Would be a shame if they are cut as I always enjoyed the train journey much more than flying. It is not so practical now I am living up north but always planned to make the trip again for sentimental reasons.
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Thu 28-05-15 8:33
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Definitely recommend Esprit, all 3 of my boys (now 2, 5 and 7) have been through their Nursery, Spritlets etc and have loved every minute of it. When we first went my wife was dubious about leaving baby in nursery all day but after a couple of days sneeking back to watch what they were doing she was more than happy to leave them there. We have only been to Obergurgl with Esprit so I can't comment on their other resorts but with Obergurgl being quite small and compact we are constantly bumping into the kids groups and even the nursery gang up on the hill. We also have our own apartment in Zell and when we go there we use the ski school nursery which is fine, last Easter we had one on one care for 5 of the 7 days we were there as we were the only ones booked in. It is however a lot more work of us as parents doing all the various drop offs, collections, cooking etc and feel less of a break for us. If you asked the kids they would definitely say they prefer Esprit mainly due to the time outside of ski lessons being mostly spent with the completely mad Snow Rangers (Esprits childcare staff) and the other kids in the chalet.
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Fri 22-05-15 10:30
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A little more info on new Viehhofen slope/lift plans on Schmitten website. Still not totally clear on dates but appears to say that piste/snow making construction will start this summer (no completion date?) and ground breaking for buildings for lift in August again no completion date. http://www.schmitten.at/pdf/downloads/schmitten-drin-kinderpost/schmittendrin_so_15_web-doppel.pdf
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Mon 16-02-15 13:55
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At that time of year there are less Glacier's open. Apart from Hintertux(Mayrhofen) in Austria, I would look at Kaprun + Zell am See which is also a great summer holidaying area. Got a very high altitude snowpark too. I believe that the Kitzsteinhorn will not be open this summer due to major restructuring of lifts/pistes. It is due to reopen in the Autumn.
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