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Poster: A snowHead
Thu 13-12-18 9:08
Replies: 250
Skied with friends yesterday from Leogang over as far as the Schönleiten gondola. Good snow though I found the pistes bumpy at times. Enjoyed the Schönleiten piste. Still quiet, though at times more people (including school groups) around than I expected. Mostly overcast, a little light snow at times, but with occasional glimpses of the sun.
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Thu 13-12-18 8:59
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Lovely! Is it always the same dog that leads the way or do they take turns beating a track?
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Sun 25-11-18 22:58
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@Valluga, even in years when the snow proper didn't come till after Christmas (or even New Year), it was possible to get some skiing, though sometimes not all pistes were skiable. Last winter started well (snowwise), the two winters before that were poor. This winter is probably the poorest start I can remember, even on the Kitzsteinhorn glacier, but I still trust that the snow will come. Some is forecast for the next few days - we shall see how much difference that makes. P.S. you can also see that all areas are starting to make artificial snow.
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Sun 25-11-18 22:03
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Very much appreciate anyone who lives/skis around the area to keep posting pics. even if they are of no snow. I gladly would but sadly have used all my allocated snowHeads disk space allowance. However, I can report that I had enjoyable if rather restricted skiing in the central Kitzbühel area today (the area opened yesterday for the first time this season). A couple of pistes are skiable, one running down from the Steinbergkogel to the Jufen chairlift and the other being at the Walde chairlift on the Hahnenkamm. The former was a good run with a couple of variants near the bottom but narrow in places. The Walde piste is rather short but quite steep on the direct descent. The snow is basically all artificial and was good but mostly hard. The lift company provided a shuttle service to get you from one area to the other, a new experience. Summing up, the skiing is currently very restricted but what there is isn't bad. Not surprisingly the slopes weren't very busy. I trust the real snow will arrive before New Year (a little is forecast for this week).
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Sat 10-11-18 10:10
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The Schmiedinger piste should be good for a Steep course. And to me the Maurer glacier looked (from a distance) almost skiable. Maybe they're keeping it for you :lol: Sadly no Black Mamba.
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Fri 9-11-18 21:44
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I skied on the Kitzsteinhorn yesterday and today and can confirm hilary_t's report. Skiing is only possible down to the Alpincenter but the snow is pretty good above that, given some moguls and a few icy patches. I wouldn't say that it was possible to ski off piste. At least this week, as opposed to earlier visits, the Schmiedinger chairlift was running, which made another interesting piste available. Enjoy your course!
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Tue 30-10-18 10:03
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As far as I can see (on the website), you are right (though I cannot claim to have ever bought a Tirol Snowcard myself).
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Sun 14-10-18 14:44
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Yesterday, 13th October, was Ski Opening for the new season at Kitzbühel, though only on a very restricted area at Pass Thurn. I decided to start my season and, since the skiing available at the Kitzsteinhorn glacier is currently restricted to one T-bar, I thought I might as well see what Kitzbühel had to offer for a change. Going up the Panoramabahn gondola the conditions did seem more suitable to mountain biking than skiing... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_39831.JPG However, when I reached the top there was some snow in sight, about 50 cm on the piste, I reckon (where it hadn't been scraped away). This wasn't a local snowfall but old snow for old fogeys, snow which had been preserved from last season over the summer... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_3986.JPG I hadn't expected great conditions and, as it was about 11 o'clock before I reached the slopes with a blue cloudless sky, I thought the snow would be soft. What I hadn't reckoned on was that others had been skiing there for two or more hours. When I followed a group round to the left where the piste you use to return to Kitzbühel goes, this is what I found... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_3990.JPG Moguls. Ouch. This isn't the corduroy slope I would have dreamed of for my first piste of the season! Looking the other way where the run flattened slightly it wasn't all quite so challenging (though I did have my only fall of the day on this run near the bottom of the Resterkogel chairlift)... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_3991.JPG And here is the view from the bottom station of the Resterkogel lift, showing much of the two available pistes... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_3993.JPG It was a strenuous first day's skiing - I kept going for about two and a half hours before my legs wilted. Here's the view looking down the main piste... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_4004a.jpg And one skier managing it well... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_4003.JPG The moguls weren't all you had to watch out for. Sometimes there was crossing traffic (but it was quite slow)... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_4002.JPG All in all, it was an enjoyable if challenging first day. I did ten runs before retiring, the target I had set myself. It looks now as though the real snow might start arriving in a couple of weeks time.
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Tue 9-10-18 9:25
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Mon 8-10-18 21:34
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Mon 8-10-18 21:24
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I had something more like 20 minutes in mind but that might be exaggerated (somewhat uphill on the way back). The other thing that anyone trying it should watch out for is that the small village of Leogang has two stations - don't get off at the Leogang Steinberge station but the main Leogang station further on (coming from Saalfelden).
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Mon 8-10-18 20:04
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Though I've never walked it myself, my feeling is that the Leogang station is quite a walk away from the Steinbergbahn. I think the bus is the better bet, at least from Saalfelden. Getting from Saalbach to Leogang seems to be quite involved - if you're not on skis :lol:
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Mon 8-10-18 10:49
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Impressive engineering.
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Thu 4-10-18 12:29
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Last Saturday, 29th September, a friend and I walked up the Streuböden piste in Fieberbrunn and checked out the work there on expanding the reservoir for snow-making. The reservoir is now nearly completed, with the lining being installed at the last corner. I believe the reservoir should start filling in October. Here are some photos... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1015/medium/IMG_3885.JPG http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1015/medium/IMG_3886.JPG Roll out the carpet... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1015/medium/IMG_38891.JPG Work has also been done on the Zillstatt piste towards the Wildalpgatterl restaurant. It is a good area for beginners. It has been widened by 20-25 metres. Whether the hump in the middle of the piste is going to stay as part of the fun area there usually is at this piste or is just temporary, I cannot say. A good many trees have been felled, even some distance from the piste, but whether this implies any changes to the ski route F31, "Little mojo", I cannot tell... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1015/medium/IMG_3894.JPG
Poster: A snowHead
Fri 14-09-18 18:55
Replies: 633
[url=https://salzburg.orf.at/news/stories/2935890/]Here is a report (in German) about the developments in Viehhofen. Next year should see the link to the Schmittenhöhe/Zell am See complete. But it seems that it will be another four years (or more) until the link comes from Viehhofen to the Asitz, i.e. the lift linking to Saalbach proper with snowmaking and the like.
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Thu 13-09-18 17:41
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My main concern is that I would be with a bunch of 18 year olds and would be the only old codger around. Does anyone know if older people do these things? I did an Anwärter course when I was about 70, so it's certainly not unknown but admittedly most particpants could have been my grandchildren. There were a few in the 40-50 age range. Was still fun, though I've never applied what I learned. Others have already given good comments on the pros and cons.
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Wed 1-08-18 20:33
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Double post deleted. However, I can also mention that I have learned that the new gondola doesn't go as far up the mountain as I had thought. The top station is just above the Saulochalm hut and the descent from there is not as challenging as the upper slopes (which can still be reached on the Almbahn chairlift).
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Wed 1-08-18 20:26
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The chairlift in the Maiskogel area that Grizzler mentions is being replaced by a gondola for next season. This will go right up the mountain but has a middle station, around where the current lower chairlift top station is, I assume. Details are [url=http://www.k-onnection.com/en]here. The lower area will still be great for intermediate skiers. The upper section is more challenging, I feel. Despite some claims on the Internet, I don't believe that the linking lift from Zell am See to the Saalbach region will be complete for the coming season. You can ski from Zell to Viehhofen, partly on piste, partly on a ski route, but the bottom section of the ZellamSeeExpress gondola to get you back up from Viehhofen isn't there yet. Even the year after it may still be necessary to take a bus from Viehhofen to Saalbach (or the Schönleiten gondola) if you want to reach the Saalbach slopes. I am not sure when the lift linking Viehhofen to the Saalbach area is going to be built. The Kitzsteinhorn glacier area is fine for intermediate skiers. People can learn there too, though in more restricted areas. I assume your beginner snowboarders will go wherever the ski school takes them, Maiskogel or Kitzsteinhorn.
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Fri 27-07-18 11:07
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Our route to the Jufen was the same as we had taken on the second day, when we skied down from the Seenieder (I don't remember exactly where) and then skinned up to the ridge at the Jufen. This time we turned right earlier rather than continuing along the ridge and that was the entry to the valley of the Pletzergraben. We didn't climb up the Wildseeloder at all, although another group did ski there the week before (though not, as I had feared, on the the front with the Herrgott Rinne where the free ride pros skied). I can take this chance to add a couple of postscripts to my report. Skiing down from the Jufen to the Hörndlinger Graben it is now possible, snow permitting, to ski right to the middle station of the (relatively new) TirolS gondola and take that up to the bottom of the Reckmoos Süd lift, rather than having to climb up to that. And in the following May I had an unexpected visit from Robert Trixl, the instructor on the course. On his mountain bike he had gone back to the slope where I had my big fall and now returned my lost sun specs! That's what I call a service over and above the call of duty!!
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Thu 19-07-18 18:31
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and chimneys get v hot. Which may be why the sweep has to check them every three months here, a legal requirement, I believe. Annoys me a bit, especially as I haven't used my stove in the last two winters :( but probably it is sensible.
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Fri 29-06-18 11:32
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Thu 21-06-18 11:42
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@Drammeister, probably true but the trend seems to be to build gondolas nowadays - better for kids. And as you said, it may be looking to future link with St. Johann which would certainly make the area busier.
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Mon 18-06-18 13:54
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I had always imagined the link from St. Johann to the Kitzbüheler Horn would be just up over the north face but maybe they are indeed thinking of linking over the ridge to the Raintal (sometime in the future), although I would have imagined there might be avalanche dangers there. I suppose they may be able to keep that under control. The replacement gondola in the Raintal and the new Brunellenfeld chairlift are being installed this summer. On the St. Johann side I had hoped that the Jodlalm chairlift might be replaced this summer but I haven't heard any more about this.
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Thu 14-06-18 12:12
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Oops! I answered the question as though it applied to Fieberbrunn, not Saalbach - sorry. radar’s answer applies more directly to Saalbach. Though the Spielberghaus is well out of the centre of Saalbach, no doubt the Freeride Skischool will meet people in the town.
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Thu 14-06-18 10:58
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I have had good experience on a freeride course given by the S4 Snowsports ski school: https://www.s4-fieberbrunn.at/en/skischool-adults/private-instructor/ (my report on this is at http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=2008882&highlight=trixl#2008882 The instructor I had didn't work fulltime for S4, though). And I have also had good instruction from the Fieberbrunn Ski School Widmann: https://www.skischule-fieberbrunn.at/en/rates.html .
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Mon 21-05-18 9:52
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My theory is that, if you're skiing properly (at least on less gnarly stuff as I do), it doesn't take too much effort. So I'm hoping to keep skiing for a some years yet. Up till now that has worked, with only a few twinges here and there (and that's without any real exercising except a little walking in the summer). My other incentive is that I aim to keep my lift costs down to €10 per day. And that means I have to ski more days every year as the prices go up :lol:
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Thu 17-05-18 22:26
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Interesting, though it made me glad that I haven't been back on the Kitzsteinhorn since the end of April :lol:
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Mon 23-04-18 13:40
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I had some pleasant hours skiing at Kitzbühel on Friday. There were only a few lifts running, which led to confusion on my part initially. I drove first to the Fleckalmbahn near Kirchberg, where I usually start my Kitzbühel skiing, but found that it wasn't operating. Ooops. But the solution wasn't difficult. I moved on to the Hahnenkammbahn gondola and went up the hill from there (after exchanging my car park ticket for the one which gives skiers free parking - at times when the Fleckalm car park isn't being used). http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_24501.JPG Going up in the gondola it was clear there wasn't much snow remaining at valley level. But, as the photo above shows, the Family Streif piste was still open, here winding down the Ganslernhang (where the Hahnenkamm slalom race takes place). I skied the Family Streif a little later and the snow wasn't at all bad, soft lower down but frozen up top. Here's a view over Kitzbühel to the Kitzbüheler Horn, taken from the Hausberg Kante. http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_2455.JPG Only the Hahnenkamm and the Steinbergkogel/Jufen pistes were skiable. There was still plenty of snow higher up. This photo was taken as I went up the Steinbergkogel chairlift. http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_2451.JPG And here another taken from the Jufen Steilhang with the Steinbergkogel and Jufen slopes on the right. http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_2467.JPG It was a bluebird day with very few skiers on the slopes. Beautiful. I skied for four hours, till about one o'clock. And my day ended with more confusion. When I had finally skied down the Family Streif again (via the Super-G start for a change), leaving the car park, I ended up stuck at the level crossing there. There was quite a delay and the gates seemed confused, opening once but not showing any green light before closing again. Eventually I and others decided to turn around and drive into town by the back road. That evolution wasn't too successful, for we all ended up in another traffic jam when a digger was being loaded onto a trailer. I suspect that more patience would have got me across the level crossing quicker :lol: http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_2477.JPG But it all added to the interest and another good day's skiing.
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Thu 12-04-18 21:35
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And conditions are still pretty good, at least up at Pass Thurn where I was today. My original intention was rather to go to the Fleckalmbahn and ski the Kirchberg side to the Steinbergkogel. But when I looked at the Kitzski website this morning it only showed pistes open in the Pass Thurn area, so there I went and indeed from a distance it did look as though the Fleckalmbahn wasn't running. In retrospect I think now that it was probably closed for today because of high winds (this evening it is shown as running - strangely this morning the website didn't display any lifts). At Pass Thurn the wind was blowing quite strongly in the valley but it was surprisingly never bad higher up. I arrived about 10 o'clock and had the whole area entirely to myself (apart from a couple of touring skiers going uphill) for about the first hour. The lifts were even started specially for me - that's what I call service! Here's a view of the crowds on the Hanglalm... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_2409.JPG The pistes were perfecly prepared up top, though with heavier snow on the valley runs. The website, which seems to have been completely mucked up this morning, has shown pistes open as far as the Trattenbach lift. But that wasn't the case at all. The Hartkaser chairlift was as far as one could ski - here was the end of the road up there, looking over to the Zweitausender chair, which wasn't running... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_2417.JPG There were dark clouds over the Hohe Tauern mountains to the south but the sun shone on the Resterkogel slopes for most of the day... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_2415.JPG By about midday a few more people had arrived but there was never more than a handful of skiers on the slopes. I skied on the Hartkaser and Hanglalm for a while and by the time I arrived back atop the Resterkogel the Panorama gondola was running. There were also a couple of pistebashers piling up snow there for next season (which starts on 13th Octber - only six months away :) )... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1014/medium/IMG_2424.JPG The pile of snow (and two other pistebashers being used to anchor the working machines) blocked the normal entry to piste 77 but there was a detour round the area where the snow was being gathered, so I had a couple of runs down to the middle station of the Panoramabahn at Breitmoos, quite hard work in the heavier snow. But nevertheless it was a very enjoyable and interesting day, the first time I have skied at Pass Thurn outside the main season.
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Wed 11-04-18 13:23
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I had a good day skiing on the Kitzsteinhorn yesterday. The weather was rather dull and overcast at the start but the sun did come out after lunch. Here's a photo from the late afternoon, looking out from the top station of the GletscherJet 4 gondola... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1000/medium/IMG_2401.JPG Particularly early on the snow was very hard-packed, not actually icy but tending that way. The only powder seemed to be in hollows where it had been blown by the wind. The off piste wasn't very inviting, mostly tracked out and rutted where immediately accessible. There were all ages on the Black Mamba, like the young skier in this photo (and me)... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1000/medium/IMG_2399.JPG There were some novelties, e.g. a new piste leading from the top station of the Sonnenkarbahn I chairlift down to the bottom of the Scheibinger lift (at least, I don't remember ever seeing that area pisted, usually it is mogully off piste - don't worry, there are still loads of bumps there)... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1000/medium/IMG_2386.JPG Something else I have never seen anywhere is that the ski holders on the Gletscherjet 4 gondola had been closed off, I presume to make them less susceptible to the wind (it was quite windy at times)... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1000/medium/IMG_2400.JPG All in all good skiing on slopes which were pretty quiet, though there were a number of groups around. As an aside, I checked out the building progress in Kaprun at the foot of the Maiskogel (where a gondola is being installed this summer - as the first stage of the lift connection from the village to the glacier area, which should be completed next year). There the new adminsitration building is rising. The old chairlift is still there (without chairs) but looks as though it has been prepared for demolition.
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Wed 4-04-18 8:10
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Wed 7-03-18 19:48
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Fieberbrunn has a camp site pretty well adjacent to the lifts: [url=https://www.tirol-camp.at/en/49.html]Fieberbrunn Tirol Camp. As well as the Fieberbrunn pistes this could give you access to Saalbach, Hinterglemm & Leogang (though note that the Snow Card Tirol pass does not cover the area in Salzburger Land, i.e. Saalbach, etc.).
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Tue 13-02-18 13:58
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You have to buy the ticket from the airport to Munich Ost at the airport, usually from a ticket machine, though I think you can probably also buy them at the help desk.
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Tue 30-01-18 20:35
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F34 and F35 are proper ski routes and not pisted. I haven't skied them often and would say they require pretty high competence and experience of skiing in deep snow. You could try F33 at the top of the Hochhörndl, quite steep, to give you a feel of what you might face on the other routes but with an easier out back to the piste. Once you're committed to the other routes it is quite a way back to the piste.
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Sun 28-01-18 18:36
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The Schönleitenbahn gondola at Vorderglemm before Saalbach village is the nearest starting point to your base. And if you want to try the far end of the Glemmtal you could drive on to the parking at the Zwölferkogel gondola (after the tunnel on the main road). I'm not sure whether the underground parking in the centre of Saalbach is free.
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Sun 14-01-18 21:30
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I seem to be lucky when I visit Rauris, for today was another perfect bluebird day. With a couple of friends, I had a great time in both parts of the Rauris area, starting off as usual on the Kreuzboden side (using the Waldalmbahn gondola) and later moving over to the Hochalm pistes. Here is a photo looking up piste 9 alongside the Waldalmbahn (actually from last year but today the piste was just about as empty most of the time)... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1148/medium/IMG_6395.JPG The snow was good, often sugary and soft but basically hard-packed with some polished bits. When we were on the Hochalm side, we skied once down black piste 5 to the valley. This is the view looking down to the village of Rauris... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1148/medium/IMG_14451.JPG And just to show that we managed it, here are my friends at the top of the Gratlift T-bar, one of the steepest I know... http://snowmediazone.com/the_zone/data/1148/medium/IMG_14501.JPG It was a very pleasant day and at the end we walked along Rauris' attractive main street and enjoyed a Glühwein in the Stadl Café.
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Fri 12-01-18 21:06
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Note that free travel on the trains for skiers is only from 08:30 to 18:00 - see https://www.kitzski.at/de/bergurlaub-tirol/anreise/mit-dem-streifzug-gratis-ins-skigebiet.html (I've only found this explanation in German). And Westendorf station is quite a way from the village. Note also that SkiWelt and Kitzbühel ski passes are only valid in their own areas. To ski in both areas, e.g. skiing over from Westendorf and then skiing the Kitzbühel pistes, you need a pass like the Kitzbüheler Alpen Allstar Card. It is true, I believe, that in the SkiWelt the pistes are numbered by the lifts they lead to. But I never understood that until it was explained here on snowHeads and I can't say I use the knowledge on the slopes (I can seldom remember the numbers).
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Fri 12-01-18 20:50
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@rg1, I must say that I rather enjoy blue Asten piste 20. And it does lead to the Einsiedelei, one of the best restaurants on the hill :D
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Fri 12-01-18 17:47
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All I can answer is to confirm that the connection to the Kitzbühel area does still involve taking the bus from the bottom of the KiWest piste to the Pengelstein I gondola.
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Thu 11-01-18 15:20
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@moonshine, have fun! Skied the area again today but overcast. Still enjoyable. Seemed there were less people around.
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