 Poster: A snowHead
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Went ski touring at Cairngorm yesterday. Quite limited in terms of snow, but what there is is excellent. The ski area was closed (wind) so we had the place to ourselves and had a great day.
Anyway, Mrs MA and I have ex-hire skis and skins, which we've had for about a year snd used for approx. 10 days skinning. The skins had been super-sticky so far but we had a bit of trouble yesterday. The snow wasn't particularly wet, but by the end of the day the skins were lifting off the skis and flapping about a bit.
This may be a fairly new to touring numpty question  but, might that be because we had the skins off and on about four times in the day? Or might it be time for a re-glue?
Cheers!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Keep 'em dry.
In mild conditions that's really difficult. Before you take 'em off, try to brush off any remaining snow and sqeeze out any water in the plush with a pole. When you put 'em back on again, dry the skis with a spare cloth.
I assume/hope you've got backing sheets and are not folding them sticky side to sticky side and have clips at both ends.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sounds like it may well be a water problem - now that you're home and the ski bases are nice and dry (and you have had your skins hanging up to dry as well haven't you  ) why not try putting them on and see how well they stick?
On the other hand why not do a re-glue as well? Always good for a laugh.
Nik Wax sell a "skin waterproofing" product but I've not tried it.
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Unlikely to need re-glue if they started OK at the beginning of the day. Almost certainly you got the glue side a bit wet - very easy to do if you are taking on and off a few times. I assume you are wiping the base of the ski dry if there is any moisture on it before applying the skins? And as Yoda said, you need to dry your skins after use (take them off the backing and hang them up).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Skin wax, not needed often but with wet days its essential equipment.
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Cheers to all. In answer to the points raised:
Yes, we kept the skins warm/as dry as poss & kept wiping the ski bases - but the skins may well have got a bit damp by the last application, when it was snowing heavily.
We do have the cheat sheets & the skins do affix at tip & tail.
And finally, the skins have been hanging up to dry overnight - so I'll try re-sticking them a bit later.
From all of your very helpful advice I'm hopeful that we won't need to re-glue - thanks again.
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Yoda,
Yes, real fun.
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| mountainaddict wrote: |
We do have the cheat sheets & the skins do affix at tip & tail.
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I just started using skins with cheat sheets this season, fine on a nice day but I can't see them lasting many days of typical Scottish mountain wind! These new Montana skins also came with a pair of silky sock-like things which I think you put your arm in and then stick the skins to when removing, but I've yet to try. Anyone use those?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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balernoStu, Colltex call them "Pro Skins" and I've been trying to find a source for them for the past few months. Even in Switzerland the shops hadn't heard of them 
Canadian guide John Hogg (works in Switzerland mostly) uses them and likes them.
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"Skin Socks" - I've seen offpisteskiing use them until he melted glue all over them by leaving them with skins too near a heater! I'm not sure he uses them any more.
Ordinary backing sheets can be useful in a crowded refuge where unfettered skins on the drying rack above the stove inevitably end up stuck to each other.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Yoda, I found somewhere selling them online a few weeks ago and now I can't remember where. Gah!
Offpisteskiing used to use them and they looked convenient to me, esp if the wind is blowing. May not appeal to gram counters though
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Poster: A snowHead
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Yes, that's the ones.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Bit later , but might be helpful also for others. I've been using "intelligent HIDE bag" for storing my skins for 2 years and it works 100% http://www.splitboards.eu/home-page-products/skinny-der-intelligente-fellsack.html. The only thing is I didn't spend for it 29 euros, but made it at home. Went to the shop and bought the cheapest jogging pants they had (6 euros) made of 100% polyester (microfiber). Since then I've never had any troubles with skins and I'm pulling them apart with 2 fingers:) You just need to do 1 cut +1 sewing (it takes 10 minutes) and you get the bag for skins + "beautiful" shorts extra:) 'll try add some pics
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http://splitboard.com/talk/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=10192
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That BD mesh disintegrates too and leaves a mess all over the glue - menace 
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All the above is awesome advice. The only other tip I have is that most skins have a stretchy attachment on them, making sure that's really tight will keep the skin on despite the glue not being very sticky. It's a PITA to skin with as snow collects between the skin and the ski but it gets you going. 
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"Try to keep it away from the hairs on the backside"
Will do.
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[Viz Top Tip] Save money by giving yourself a full brazil with the skins before renewing the glue [/Viz Top Tip]
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I have put a hole in the cheat sheets, strengthened with gaffer tape to take a small carabiner. As soon as it is off, and before I put it on I put it on the carabiner. That way it isn't going anywhere, I don't need two hands free to secure it and it doesn't get crumpled. When I am ready I deal with it.
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So has anyone on here bought the new Gecko skins that still stick when wet and can even be washed? More expensive but I'm wondering if it might be worth it.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| snowball wrote: |
| So has anyone on here bought the new Gecko skins that still stick when wet and can even be washed? More expensive but I'm wondering if it might be worth it. |
I've heard mixed reviews about their long term operation. Certainly seem to do the job at first, but don't seem to last as long.
I'll dig out the reviews I found. I don't have them bookmarked so will have to try and remember what search terms I used when I found them
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