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How can anyone take you guys seriously when you spend half the time eulogising amongst each other about pathetic little snowdomes you're going to visit or have visited. Are those the places you do most of your carving, wow!
I'm such a great skier and blader, I even surprise myself. Carving Stinks! Razz
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Sorry old chap can't be bothered to visit a snowdome, to far to go for too little ski time, in the mean time where do you get your head gear from ? given the size of your ego does it have to be custom made Laughing
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ise wrote:
ssh wrote:
ise, I'm a certified instructor (aren't you just so impressed??!! rolling eyes ) and I have every confidence in hailing you as an expert lift rider! Tell your friends! Laughing


ah, it's the internet, we're all expert something, my expertise. In fact I'm not an expert lift rider at all if I'm honest, at least according to Mrs Ise I'm not, the chair lists to one side apparently.


Laughing

That's 'cause she's too light! Laughing
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D G Orf, Ok the Les Arcs speed ski slope is the fastest there is, but the trainer took the 11/12 year olds down it (starting half way down) last week, and my 11 year old clocked 128kph on GS skis. One 12 year old managed 132 kph. They're going to use the proper gear next time, apparently. I shan't be there to watch Neutral
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Maximus, hmmm.... London to closest real snow is how long?

Better check my address (and PG's for that matter!) before tossing out your epithets! Razz
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PG of course Maximus says he's so good but none of us have seen him ski, or have we ? is there anyone out there who knows maximus and can vouch for his claims of speed and style, if so please contact the sports council and direct them to his door as I'm sure he'd like to prove himself against some real ski racers Laughing
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ise, Hey you're no slouch, howsabout telling Maximus Ego how easy it was to keep up with that 11 year old at Tignes last November!

(PS after your description of the conditions at Flaine, I'm sticking around here tomorrow. Rain up to 2000 at Les Arcs today Crying or Very sad )
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and mine.................

and I can carve, any pair of skis, any shape or a snowboard
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D G Orf wrote:
Maximus beware of putting your money where your mouth is, some youn skiers go phenomenenly fast, I watched the Wengen ski club go down a slope with a speed gun on it this year, not one was less than 65 kph and one was well over 90 kph faster than I'd be willing to do that slope, and they were not even racing, if the kids PG has in mind are anything like that most people would be hard pressed to beat them, especially if they think you'll eat them for breakfast, if you catch them Laughing

My quickest time on ski's is 117. 84kph and that was on the flying K 20 years ago starting on the novice block! I would definitely be a lot faster today..probably beat the World record. If those kids you talk of are so good..why has this country never produced a World Champion?
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D G Orf, He's welcome to come to Les Arcs anytime and see how it's done. He can even try to skid down the GS course if he likes.... the kids'll give him a couple of gates start, just so as not to humiliate him too much Wink
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Maximus, bored today, eh?

I think I'll go find something useful to discuss... rolling eyes
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Maximus, 117.84kph? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Did you read the time my 11 year old did last week? 128 kph. From the half-way point. And she weighs 32 kgs. You just haven't got a clue, have you Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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I think we should congratulate Maximus, on apretty decent wind-up. He got us going and has only just got to the point where the irony is obvious.

Respect.
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D G Orf wrote:
PG of course Maximus says he's so good but none of us have seen him ski, or have we ? is there anyone out there who knows maximus and can vouch for his claims of speed and style, if so please contact the sports council and direct them to his door as I'm sure he'd like to prove himself against some real ski racers Laughing

If anybody wants the privilege and honour of seeing me ski and blade, you will have to pay for it by being in Mottaret from the 13th April and I will be staying at Hotel Les Arolles, I know it will be difficult for some of you to tear yourselves away from the snowdomes but by watching me it will definitely make you better skiers.. Cool
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PG wrote:
Maximus, 117.84kph? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Did you read the time my 11 year old did last week? 128 kph. From the half-way point. And she weighs 32 kgs. You just haven't got a clue, have you Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Yeah, in your dreams, PG Razz
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I suspect there will be snowhaeds in that zone. I for one will be in France that week. Should we watch (say) the descent fron Vallon or just listen for the sonic boom?
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Maximus, Well that's ok, We'll have just finished racing in the International Scara at Val and the Brits at Meribel, what a coincidence. There are of course regular ESF flèche GS time tests at Meribel. It's just down the road from us. So put your money where your mouth is. Enter the same flèche as my 11 year old, a girl as well, and give us all something to laugh about!!!
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Chris Bish, well said. Now, where is that yawning emoticon?
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Yeah, in your dreams, PG


Hey we do live in Les Arcs, check with the Club des Sports, all times are confirmed, the Les Arcs club skis the FK regularly, for fun, and that speed was on GS skis too, virtually no wax left, after a morning's training.

As I say. I am in Meribel, just down the road, for that speed test, give us all a laugh, I shall be pleased to report back to the forum.
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ssh, a wind-up merchant, you're right, high speed Flying K at 118 kph pffffff!!! Lives in London, yet can outski the pros? PFFFF Little Angel Smile Very Happy
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PG I will see you there..and bye the bye..since I will be racing against an 11 year old, I will give her a handicap by racing on my blades, I don't want to make her too disappointed.. Cool
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Time, dates, real name (by private mail if you prefer) so I can trace you at the said hotel, and shows how much you know - they won't let you do the time trial on blades. I'll bring my camera....
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Hey, PG, you are into philosophy. Remember Aristotle's reductio ad absurdam.
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And while I think of it, remember Iago, too.
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Chris Bish, Indeed, but sometimes it just feels good to rub it in...... and that nose would be penetrating quite deeply into the snow....

Not entirely zen, I know. Must have had a bad day 'at the office'.
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And while I think of it, remember Iago, too


He's a troll, of course. But in this case he can be pinned down. If he provides his name and he is indeed at the hotel in question. We shall see!
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I can see those flying pigs again, but this time they're wearing green polkadot dresses, a troll is an understatement, maybe a troll with a very big ego, but not just a troll Laughing


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Exactly. Iago put intolerable pressure on Othello because he cared. Just keep repeating the troll point. It's obviously true to someone not emotionally involved. Hell it's too late at night for this stuff!
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PG, his name is in his post in the LOST and FOUND. Hit his profile to find it. Or PM me.
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Chris Bish wrote:
Just keep repeating the troll point. It's obviously true to someone not emotionally involved. Hell it's too late at night for this stuff!


Finally someone who has it right, well said Chris snowHead
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Indeed, and it's an hour later here too..... A demain!
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PG, good night !
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Back in Maximus original posting he suggested 3 things:
1. Carving skis were different from the previous straight skis
2. Skiing had lost something: was no longer "exquisite, panache, inventive, poetic and elegant"
3. "Carving skiing is a copout"

But the new skis are not really radically different from the old skis. Skis in the 70s and 80s were not straight. They all had a curve. It was just a rather shallow curve. I remember Ali Ross teaching “just put the ski on its edge and press and you’ll turn”. Faced by competition from snowboarding, during the 1990s this shaping of the ski became significantly more pronounced to make it easier for skiers to carve turns, and such skis were termed carving skis. With a minor change in design skiing became a bit easier and we were all persuaded to buy the new carvers. (Manufacturers must have made a mint)

Skiing is still exquisite, full of panache, inventiveness, poetry and elegance. It is also exciting and fun. The new skis just make it all a bit easier so more people are able to enjoy the thrills of fast turns and off-piste and whatever else makes us do it.
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Jonpim, right you are. A key component of this shift was the materials science that allowed for the tuning of ski characteristics such that longitudinal flex could be made significantly softer than tortional flex--and the two largely independent of each other. Further CAD design of skis evolved topsheet designs that provided structural characteristics (starting with Volant's stainless steel, Elan's MBX, and the early Salomons and then extending to today's Atomic Beta and all of the various approaches).

Back before the late 80s, there was very little modern material in skis. Rossi introduce kevlar into their slalom skis and added anti-vibration technology at about the same time.

Add to all of this the fatty revolution and the required ski characteristics to ski open variable snow well, and you can see how the evolution got us to where we are today. There's also much more openness now than there was, and you have unusual designs like the Volant Spatula.

Technology that helps us certainly is a wonderful thing! We need to be wary, though, of praising technology simply because it's new. In the case of the new skis, I can say that on them I can ski longer with less energy. As mid-40s ex-racer who can't ski nearly as well as Maximus' self-proclaimed super-expert ability, I am grateful for all the help I can get! Wink snowHead
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ssh, I thought this article from planetsubzero quite interesting.
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Jonpim, I don't know anything about great looking graphics. I ski on a Fischer. It's really, really boring! But, I think it's also completely unattractive to thieves, but really a great ski to ski!!!
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I know what you mean ssh, that's my excuse for running a boring car (what I really want is the Batmobile). Salomon and Atomic certainly go in for striking graphics, but I note the Rossi B2 is very understated. Old fashioned even. Maybe for the same reason as your Fischers?
(I'm keeping my son company after he woke up from nightmares - what's your excuse for being up so late?)
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Jonpim, I live in Boulder, CO. It's 18.25 here! Wink
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Oh! Silly me: should have noticed. rolling eyes
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Jonpim, well, I'm waiting for dinner and doing my taxes (on-line with TurboTax Web). Yuck! Evil or Very Mad Crying or Very sad
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