 Poster: A snowHead
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After a woman knocked 6 bells out of me last winter, I'm considering buying a back protector. How bulky are they under jackets? Any  using them regularly?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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snowbunny,
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| After a woman knocked 6 bells out of me last winter |
Presume that was actually on the piste.
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srobbo, Fraid so, "only" a broken collarbone from a side on impact which took 16 weeks to heal. Left me feeling quite vulnerable, so I have decided to investigate protecting the other bits that tend not to heal. Already wear a helmet.
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Unfortunately I suffered something similar in 2004, which resulted in ligament/muscle damage on my shoulder. Still have issues even 16 months later, BUT took the view that accidents will always happen, so have not looked at any further protection.
Modern back protectors are slim and light so should not impact on any movement, and would guess that they are reasonably comfortable when worn.
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snowbunny, As an alternative to a back protector have you considered skiing with a backpack?
Whilst protection is obviously not a backpack's primary function I feel mine offers me quite a high level of protection, especially with the bladder pack installed.
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snowbunny, I wear mine nearly all the time. I Wouldn't go anywhere steep or off piste without it.
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I wear one mostly as well, they're not very obstrusive, mine's the from Dainese, the Nextwave model, the point of this is that it's articulated so the coccyx protecttion moves as your body does. For my money, you need this if you're going to bother with a protector at all, these are best skiing, some of the others are more for MTB's.
spyderjon, your sack won't protect the coccyx area and moves way too much to provde protection. I'm concerned about hitting rocks bouncing down a gully
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| ise wrote: |
| your sack won't protect the coccyx area and moves way too much to provde protection. I'm concerned about hitting rocks bouncing down a gully |
Fair point.
I prefer to ski with a pack when I'm out for the day rather than jam everything in to my pockets. I'm also trying to get used carrying a shovel & probe as often as possible. I also find I easily get hot.
What's it like, heat & comfort wise wearing a back protector when you're also carrying a backpack?
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Mrs FTS never rides (nags not boards)) without her back protector. Seem very sensible if you have a pre existing injury or are lacking confidence. Sweat is the only issue. They are not that bulky.
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spyderjon, I use a rucksack most days anyway, its amazing how much lunch can hurt when I fall over 
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Re. the jacket fit. You are all slipping here, no one has suggested that I lose weight-yet
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You know it makes sense.
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ise, The one that I am considering is a Dainese core vest 03 6 plate,New Wave ventilated, do you use similar? Any probs?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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snowbunny, I wear a sixsixone mountain bike jacket, which is a light weight mesh construct with neoprene padding and has moulded plastic shoulder, elbow, forearm protection, the articulated plastic spine protector is detactable with neoprene padding around the kidney area, and doesn't effect movement I got it from wiggle.com which is an online cycle retailer it cost me £113, but they have discounts that vary each month so it might be cheaper or more expensive. I know it's a little expensive, but I think it is worth it as I have a slight injury to my left shoulder.
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Poster: A snowHead
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davidb, Thanks for the tip,just looked at the site and not too much difference in price between those and Dainese
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I use a dainese back protector, adds a bit of warmth but you dont notice they are on. Try eBay usually a lot on there. The vest body armours are a bit bulky, but if your wanting to be indestructable
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| snowbunny wrote: |
| ise, The one that I am considering is a Dainese core vest 03 6 plate,New Wave ventilated, do you use similar? Any probs? |
That's something I'd see as being more for racers personally, it's pretty hardcore. I just wear a NextWave, just the protector with shoulder and waist straps.
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snowbunny, it's the latest model, only from last season. The nextwave is articulated while the shield's are not.
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mesk1, Looks interesting, thanks for the link. Have you found it flexible enough? Does it look as if it could stand a hit from a sharp rock? I see that it has been designed for motorcyclists, possibly better at protecting in a tarmac slide situation. It's a good competetive price though.
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snowbunny, It is fairly flexible cold and moulds to your bodyshape as it warms up. It fits underneath clothing with no problems. From what I've read it should protect from penetrative blows, the body armour world seems to split into hard and soft shell solutions both with pros and cons.
Another option I looked at was backpacks with built in protection such as -
http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=6_166&products_id=1842
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PG, Thanks, interesting reading about the Dainese stuff being deformable/use and replace. my search goes on.
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snowbunny, There's little difference between tarmac/road furniture and white concrete/piste furniture so the gear's pretty interchangeable. The new Dainese stuff needs a big hit to render it needing replacement so unless you're planning to get big air or ride the rails, you shouldn't have to worry about repair/replacement. It is beautifully made . . . and you pay for that and you don't notice you're wearing it. You can get some iffy looks at the bar . . . as in pretentious w****r, but I can live with that every time I have to pick myself up.
Be careful though, you can develop 'Volvo Syndrome'.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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snowbunny, I'm a Volvo driver (S60 Turbo company car) and I think Masque is getting at the false sense of security all the surrounding safety features can engender in some folks. SIPS, WHIPS, 8 airbags, crumple zones, absorbent materials, traction control, ABS etc etc etc. Fortunately, apart from feeling the ABS working during hard braking, I've never had to put any of the rest to the test. 
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kuwait_ian, Ah thanks. all becomes clear now. I think I found my personal crumple zone a bit wanting
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Lidl have some cheap motorbike back protectors at the moment.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I'm always wary of the word cheap when it comes to safety equipment. Generally I find that you get what you pay for.
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FWIW, I have a Dainese day sack with built in (but removeable) back armour. They used to be sold by S&R, but I can't see any mention of them now. Enough room for a day's worth of ancillaries (Probe, Shovel, Camelback, Spare Hat, Goggles/Shades, 1st Aid kit), and the back protection if at all noticeable helps support the pack.
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arcticfox, Interesting, thanks, 1st time I have heard of a backpack with this option. Can't find any trace of them on the Dainese sites though.
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You could always strap a small child to your back in one of those baby backpack things? I presume the parents are thinking of themselves when they do that anyway- might aswell get an added bonus!
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Nadenoodlee, Good, if slightly wicked idea. Mind you at the rate I fall over, I would need to order 2 dozen since they would probably be only as good as car airbags. 
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| ise wrote: |
| spyderjon, your sack won't protect the coccyx area and moves way too much to provde protection. I'm concerned about hitting rocks bouncing down a gully |
I guess it depends on the sack but the fiancee of a ski friend had a fall this spring while wearing his day sack containing usual kind of gear and has broken one of his disks so I agree that a sack shouldn't be considered as serious back protection.
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davidof,
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broken one of his disks
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Was this injury a fractured vertebrae, or a damaged disc please?
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With a back protector on,I am concerned that my jacket will be too tight, or that I will look like a shortarse version of quasimodo 
New one on it's way in perhaps