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 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi There peeps, i've got another daft question. I have seen some skis for sale at a very attractive price which would make it cheaper for me to buy them than to keep renting over the next year or two. Problem is, the description says they are for an expert skiier, i am only a lower intemediate. So what does this mean, to me, all modern carving skis look the same, how can some be for intemediates and some for experts? If i tried to use expert skis what would happen? would they not work or would i spend a lot of time eating snow? I am guessing it's like cars, where a learner would drive a fiesta or something where as an expert may drive a TVR. i.e. the learner could make the TVR go but would probably kill themselves?

TIA Mac
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What skis?
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The way I understand it, the more "advanced" skis have a smaller sweet spot and are therefore less forgiving. What I mean by this is that on a beginner ski, your centre of mass might be a bit too far in the back seat, or not quite centred over the skis. You'd get away with it, just suffering a reduction in steering leverage. However, with advanced skis, you wouldn't be able to get them on an edge and they'd just run away from you - resulting in eating snow.

I'm probably over-simplifying things, but in general, beginner skis are more forgiving and very easy to get into a carve, whereas expert skis are stiffer (so you need to ski much more aggressively to get them to carve) with the smaller sweet spot I talked about above.

What are the skis you've seen?
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In essence they will be too stiff for you to presure properly, and you'll just end up getting tired fighting the ski.
An intermediate ski will generally be softer and easier to stay in balance on.
Also some Expert skis can have a very small sweet spot that takes a skilled user to get the best out of.
Which ski is it? Some expert skis are quite user friendly. The Salomon 3v Slalom ski for example.
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Doh, there wern't any replies when i began typing that out....
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Most ski's have a range of ability levels....why not look up the ski on something like the Snow&Rock website which gives their own guide to ability (ranging from 1 beginner to 10 Herman Maier) then ranks all the skis with the range they're suitable for?
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the ski's in question are blizzard epic 6, i think i'll give them a miss. it's a shame 'cause there's loads of them on e bay from £30 upwards (brand new inc bindings)
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This one?
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markP, oh well - at least that means I wasn't talking out my backside for a change then!
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mac Daddy, I've been looking at those, I would say they come in at the intermediate level according to the blizzard website - look at my other threads further down about "blizzrd skis" and "ski length" for the feedback I got. I actually had my eye on some Sigma 7.0 FxP Ti before I got the pocket rockets
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Yep those ones. there are ton's of them on e bay, all very cheap. But like has already been said, probably too advanced for me Sad
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I wouldn;t say so. I'd say probably the right level for you - I'd count the TG3 etc as beginner skis, Epic range for those looking to improve,m and the Sigma as skis for those who are too big for their boots and ne..


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If you're concerned, but want to dive in, given the price, then go short. If you normally have a 175, then go 165 for example.
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Looks like a pretty good ski to me. especially at the price you can't go wrong.
Get the 167
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 Poster: A snowHead
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I think this is quite tricky ground:

Their is a tendency for people to overstate their abilities. Consequently ski shops and manufacturers say intimidating things about their skis ("very precise extreme ski for aggressive dynamic skiers") or some such.

Now I have worked a season (10 years ago) and ski every year (but only about ten days). I'm pretty competent. Probably just about expert. NOT a superstar!

I recently tested a pair of Stockli Stormrider XL (the quote above was associated with them). The guy in the shop made a big deal ("VERY stiff, demanding. come back and try some Rossi B2s if the Stocklis are too much"). They were fantastic and not difficult to ski on. I bought them. My feeling is that if you know how to make skis carve you can use "expert" kit. If (unintentional) skidding has a big part to play in your skiing you should probably go for something a bit tamer.

J
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