 Poster: A snowHead
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| What it doesn't need is rotten vegetation being chucked around unfairly by anonymous children. |
Practise what you preach and leave the thread then! 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Hmm. Not everything a journalist writes can be taken at face value.
| David Goldsmith in 2006 wrote: |
| Seriously and sadly though, this is my final posting to snowHeads - I'm calling it a day, after 3 happy years. |
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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EMA is south of Derby therefore MK must be either South Midlands or North Southlands.
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Does anyone know which itv station mk gets-i'd of thought that would be fair indicator-either that or just look at a map of the uk 
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Just out of interest... was "first journalist to ski" it wearing a helmet?
Hemel Hempstead of course is famous for those enormous petrol storage tanks and that even more enormous explosion. This is the behaviour of a heavy duty industrial northern township. Technically, being beyond the M25, it is in the north but us southerners may frequent the place and patronise the natives once in a while.
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| Bode Swiller wrote: |
| Just out of interest... was "first journalist to ski" it wearing a helmet? |
Helmets are available for use on the slope, free of charge. Also, the only helmet sanitiser in the UK is located at Hemel (cue: Frankie Howerd titter...)
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the only helmet sanitiser in the UK
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sometimes there aren't enough smileys
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| Bode Swiller wrote: |
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the only helmet sanitiser in the UK
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sometimes there aren't enough smileys |
 Will you be joining the assembled snowHeads when they descend on the slope in June? Maybe you could persuade Chemmy to join us, as I remember you having dinner with her at some point...
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what a great thread... 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| skimottaret wrote: |
| i am wondering if the claim "Up to 150 skiers at any time will weave down Hertfordshire's premier piste." includes the beginners area.... |
150 is Main slope, plus 100 on Nursery slope.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Here's another plug for MK
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rob@rar, well, as it happens I have an appointment with the aforementioned young lady quite soon and I will certainly ask the question inbetween bouts of oggling of course. As for joining other snowHeads I'll have to ask my advisors and medical team to guage whether or not this would be wise. After all, it involves going beyond the north circular and I expect to get mugged in a kind of northern way and there may be some weirdos to contend with. Hey, you never know.
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You know it makes sense.
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Bode Swiller, I'm sure you can sell her the idea of joining us. She'd be delighted to meet her many fans, and you can rest assured that Hemel is a delightful place with no hoodys or muggers anywhere to be seen. If she can't make the event in June get a date from her and we'll arrange something which works...
And if she needs a lift to Twickenham I can do that as it's on my way home
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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rob@rar, you old smoothy
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Poster: A snowHead
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Bode Swiller,
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| achilles wrote: |
Hmm. Not everything a journalist writes can be taken at face value.
| David Goldsmith in 2006 wrote: |
| Seriously and sadly though, this is my final posting to snowHeads - I'm calling it a day, after 3 happy years. |
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So? Suddenly I heard the voice of Frank Sinatra.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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rob@rar, does that mean I can get a lift from Richmond too or is there not room enough for me alongside you and Chem?
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| Bode Swiller wrote: |
| Just out of interest... was "first journalist to ski" it wearing a helmet? |
yes
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Tonight's Evening Standard has the story, with a big colour photo of the inside of the Snow Centre and its Tyrolean muriels, sorry, murals.
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David Goldsmith, I think the Otztal have paid a rather large sum for those muriels. I suspect it'll pay off; proximity to London means that every magazine shoot requiring snow will go there and breakfast TV will virtually camp out there when anything of a snowy nature is required.
awol, was it sanitised to his satisfaction?
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It's funny (or strange). I don't normally buy the Standard, but I was passing through Euston station late last night and there was a vendor selling it for 10p (cover price 50p).
I'm always willing to buy a newspaper at 80% discount, so the deal was struck. And there, on p.13, was the splendid photo of the helmeted Jonathan Prynn on the slope (not an action shot, unfortunately) with his skis on.
The question is: how did a low-circulation paper (under 300,000, including freebies and discounted copies) get the story?
I've a pathetic theory: that the new owner of the Standard - "Russian businessman and former KGB agent Alexander Lebedev" [Wikipedia] - may have a huge interest in skiing. More from Wikipedia:
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| In March 2009 Lebedev announced that he would be running for mayor of Sochi, the city that will host the 2014 Olympics, but a court ruling declared his candidacy invalid on April 13th 2009. |
I'm not suggesting for a moment that Jonathan Prynn is a KGB sub-agent (that would be a ludicrous hypothesis) but given all these supposed facts you begin to ask questions as to how this stunning journalistic scoop was obtained. Did he enter the building by normal means?
[NB - check out Wikipedia for more fascinating claims about Lebedev. I wonder if he has a chalet with heli-pad in Courchevel?]
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The question is: how did a low-circulation paper (under 300,000, including freebies and discounted copies) get the story?
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maybe none of the other papers thought a small snowdome opening outside the ski season was particularly newsworthy 
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| this stunning journalistic scoop |
Come off it...what planet are you on? Snowdome opens soon, opening date widely known, hack gets along to some preview. Could well be a pleasant diversion from covering cats up trees and minor misdemeanours at the local magistrates court - but it's not Watergate is it? Nice it got some coverage, but it nothing like a stunning scoop or incisive journalism.
Get over yourself!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Well, the editor of the Standard clearly didn't agree with you - he gave the photo half a page and the whole story 80% of the page.
Better than being on Planet Cynical.
It's a state-of-the-art £23 million snow building, opening in troubled economic times, and it's a notable scoop to get the first writer in there. Readers want stuff they haven't seen before. Londoners haven't had a snowdome that could be called 'reasonably local'.
Your comments, GrahamN, are absurd.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Atomic_Mick, Six miles from MK we get Anglia 
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What scoop? Advertorial at best. If he'd crept in under cover of darkness and exposed the fact that snow was being made from the tears of beaten immigrant and the pomas suspended with illegal harvested polar bear intestine children may have been worthy of the name.
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You know it makes sense.
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You clearly don't know what the words "scoop" or "advertorial" mean ... or you're yet another anonymous sniper who essentially doesn't care because you can't be held accountable.
Before typing and triping, consider that a named person turned out the story, it was informative and objective, it was a 'first', and if you'd written it under your own name you'd probably be proud of the effort.
Accusing him of writing advertorial ("at best") is implying that an advertiser paid directly for his words under a contractual arrangement.
Give us the evidence of that, or quote what you suspect is the evidence, or maybe withdraw the accusation. It's the honourable thing to do.
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Thu 30-04-09 7:45; edited 1 time in total
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| fatbob wrote: |
What scoop?
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The scoop of being the first journalist to write first hand about skiing there.
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Advertorial at best.
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Advertorial is copy which is paid for (directly or indirectly) by the organisation being written about. Are you saying Hemel paid him for the article?
It may be a little sycophantic, but that isn;t the same thing.
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If he'd crept in under cover of darkness and exposed the fact that snow was being made from the tears of beaten immigrant and the pomas suspended with illegal harvested polar bear intestine children may have been worthy of the name. |
"Scoop" has nothing to do with the quality of the story. It only refers to being first with the story.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| I've a pathetic theory: that the new owner of the Standard - "Russian businessman and former KGB agent Alexander Lebedev" [Wikipedia] - may have a huge interest in skiing |
bet ya it has more to this with this piece . Maybe Hemel has a clued up PR - and ES readership surely would be perfect audience
btw, Standard seems to be cutting price to 10p about 9pm at main stations. They've also restet a 3rd edition.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Atomic_Mick, Anglia TV. I know it gets a little confusing! They get the Western area local news and if they are lucky get the northern version of BBC South.
Many people in Milton Keynes seem to have their roots in London, so generally feel a little more Southern than Midland. Although there is no doubt that Hemel is more Southern than MK and although it has some impressive roundabouts cannot compete with MK.
I have no idea why any of this matters and am now waffling. However this seems to go well with this thread................
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Here's a little news item on the Snow Centre from ESPN (forgotten what ESPN stands for). It appeared on 13 April:
http://espn.go.com/action/snowboarding/blog?post=4065509
Note the use of the phrase "indoor shredding" in the sub-title. Indeed - it doesn't just go in in dodgy accounts departments. Everybody seems to be selling shredding machines these days.
Also, there's a sweet comment from "surface whore" underneath the piece:
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| I want a snowdome. |
Well you can't bloody have one.
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| Snow Centre claim that it is the closest to the real thing yet seen in Britain |
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David Goldsmith, now that is newsworthy!!
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Snowboarding news from the Snow Centre: a photographer for SCUK has captured what's claimed to be "the first jump" [not mega] and a slide down the "SCUK box" [an ugly beast!]:
http://www.snowboardclub.co.uk/news-8105.html
Those shots were posted last Wednesday. And according to that report the "first official freestyle night is scheduled for Friday 15th May".
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| Those shots were posted last Wednesday. And according to that report the "first official freestyle night is scheduled for Friday 15th May". |
The on slope photos were taken on Thursday, same day as the photos that Spyderman and I posted.
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Did you see Dunx get in a Tardis on Thursday? The SCUK thread says:
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| Posted Wednesday 29th April 2009, 10:51 pm by Dunx |
Dunx?
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The SCUK thread might well say that, but I was there when those photos were taken and it was on Thursday not Wednesday.
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