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Les Deux Alpes Season Trip Report

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The last week has been warm well I suppose that’s an understatement: it’s been bloody hot, fortunately the snowpack is so deep that it has stood up to the heat well and the sun has softened the snow nicely during the day. On Tuesday Scottish Skier and me had a play on the Echine des Chevres run on the Lauze glacier, we’ve been meaning to do this for a while but each of the last snowfalls have been accompanied by high winds that have packed the snow hard and formed sastrugi. However, with the strong sun the snow had softened up even at that altitude.

Me on the glacier.

On Wednesday we decided to check out how the snow was holding up at La Grave, starting off with a warm up on the col du lac. After that run we decided to try Voute again, obviously it was much more tracked than before and the snow bank at the bottom of the abseil was really hardpacked. Once into the couloir proper though it was still nice and soft.

Me in Voute.

“We’re Hardcore Us!” The last chance to turn back for La Grave on the approach. The sign reads: “Behind this point, Cliffs!!! If you don’t have any rope and harnesses... To go back to La Grave, climb back up to the rope line.”

Thursday was another chance to hit a new line for us by now we’d got a handle on what the heat was doing to the snow and this was the last day before it was set to cool down significantly. Below the Signal chair is an alluring bowl, however invisible from above, below this is a series of cliffs and couloirs ending in large icefalls. We knew there were two routes down this slope, the Muratouse on skiers right and Mines on the left but there was only one way down the final part: of the three streams that flow through the final cliff bands two terminate in 100m icefalls. The other was narrow but skiable although it had been affected by avalanches and rockfall.

I’d like to quickly point out we didn’t head down here blind or following tracks. Every time we’ve driven to La Grave we’d passed by this slope and on a couple of occasions taken a series of photos (actually we’ve done this for most of the lines down the valley) we then spent a number of nights studying the pictures and relating them to the map, what we could see from above/below and even Google Earth!! Eventually we were confident we could do it, rather than traverse in from La Grave we planned on hitting it from the Signal chair here.

Photo of the route taken from the excellent skierslodge website (http://www.skierslodge.com/legend/#) Mines takes the line on the right the bottom of the signal chair is just visible (black arrow), we descended from right of this when looking at the picture.

Although there were a few tracks down the line this is probably skied less than any of the other things we’d done and despite the heat the snow was still almost powdery in the shade and nicely softened in the sun.

Scottish Skier at the start of the bowl

The initial slope and the first gullies and bowls all had the same glorious snow and although on a route with such a large vertical descent the snow conditions are going to change we were surprised at how much really good snow there was.



Scottish Skier in yet another large bowl of fantastic snow


Me in the first bowl and then leaving it via the first gully

Into the next bowl

And down through it, this gives a sense of scale of the place.

So far we’d hit each gully and bowl that we’d intended but we weren’t going to get ahead of ourselves as we knew the technical crux was ahead of us and if we got the line slightly wrong from this point on we would be in serious trouble. It was about this point that we got a good buzzing from a helicopter, we can’t be certain why but it’s possible we were seen leaving the ski area and it’s not unheard of for people to head down this way without knowing what they’re getting into (ask Lizzard about one of her former guests) anyway they headed off so we carried on.

The route ahead looking down to the Romansche and the road (my car was somewhere down there)

As the above photo indicates falling here is right out so we made our way down carefully.


Now we were in the steep and narrow exit couloir and the snow was getting worse. To add to the snow the couloir had been scoured by avalanches and even some rockfall from one of the walls.

The choke point of the exit couloir, note the exposed rocks: a mixture of the couloir bed having been uncovered by slides from above and rocks that had fallen from the far wall. This was not a place to hang about in but care was needed as a fall could be terminally easy.

Once out the couloir we found ourselves on the massive cones of avalanche debris, fortunately this had softened slightly in the heat at the low altitude. From there was a choice of ride down the stream bed with a series of small drop offs and big rocks to avoid or through the trees ducking branches and avoiding rocks again. Combat skiing at its best. At this point the helicopter came back possibly to laugh at us fighting our way to the river.

In the stream bed: by now it there was no point riding as it was up and down all the way. In the background you can see two of the streams heading out of the area we skied which are ice falls over the final cliff band (centre and left hand side of the photo) the line out is hidden by the cliff but is above my head.

Of course this wasn’t the end we still had the river to cross and the heat had made it quite deep and fast flowing so we headed for the bridge about 500m upstream. This was pretty tiring work in snow that varied from hard and shallow to soft and knee deep. And we were both pretty surprised to discover we had to do a bit of caving to reach the bridge:

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Arno, will still be here, our passes won'r be valid at LG that weekend though (not valid weekends and public holidays Sad ) btw have you done the Rama?
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Swirly, no but would be up for giving it a try conditions permitting
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Arno, cool it's probably the one thing left within my ability! Just a bit unsure as to the entrance to the bowl above the couloir so looking for beta.
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Swirly, looks like Scottishskier is enjoying pair of ski's number 6, about time he got some big skis Happy Not surprised that you got buzzed by the heli down there, I remember when we were checking out that route from the top of the signal chair and we ducked the rope, the lifty was over to see what we were doing.
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kristof, Probably gave the lifty a heart attack! Shocked

Swirly, great report, great pix, clearly a great descent. Very Happy
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Superb report & photos Very Happy
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Swirly. The first photo is nowhere near the glacier! That one is on the Ratchas looking towards Pied Moutet
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scottishskier, is this more evidence of Swirly's legendary sense of direction Toofy Grin
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scottishskier, oh yeah, I did wonder why I'd traversed so far!
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As Swirly, scottishskier and my friend Kevan headed for Claviere on Friday they dropped me off in La Grave for the Derby de la Meije. The Derby is a race from the top of La Grave, in this case the col de la Lauze down to Chalvachere just above the exit from the Vallons de la Meije. The vertical drop is in the region of 1800m with most racers taking the classic Vallons route.

I had made a brief recce of the course two days earlier and had checked out where the moguls had formed in Vallons and had decided on a line accordingly - mainly deciding to cut towards the Breche Pacave before heading towards the moraines at the bottom of Vallons. This is the cowards' route and anyone aiming for a sub 10 min time would do well to take a more direct line. Better skiers than me simply made SG turns through the bumps.

Cutting a long story short I finished in 17 minutes 57, a not especially respectable time but one on which I will be improving in the future. The La Grave ski bums I spoke to were aiming for something in the region of 10-11 minutes. The really quick guys knock it off in about 6 minutes.

This was one of the most entertaining things I have done in a while on skis. You can take it as seriously or with as much frivolity as you like. The atmosphere was tremendous and even if you have skied Vallons many times, racing it adds something new.



The queue at the bottom of the telepherique.



Racers head from the glacier to P3. This looks like a serious ballache on a snowboard. I would estimate I was doing a good 50mph by the time I hit the cat track and I got no more than half way before I was skating past jogging boarders.



The start from the col de la Lauze. There is a 5 second countdown with most people going on two.



The race begins in groups of 10 with a lengthy straightline from the col down towards the col des Ruillans



Bib number 538 exercises his right to race on whatever that thing is. The guy had balls of steel. He finished about 7 minutes after I did.



The view up the course from the finish.
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OTOH we had 80cm of fresh to play in wink
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gorilla, Well done for doing it and a nice report. did you enjoy the legendary party after the legendary race?? wink wink
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Been a while again...

Here's a photo of me in one of the Les Deux Alpes couloirs- Le Deversoir.


A couple of weeks ago we headed to Montgenevre just to ski some pistes... on getting there they'd had 80cm of fresh overnight!

This is a 135cm pole.


We decided to hit the trees and mellow slopes as the avvy risk was obviously through the roof.


Unfortunately they were sometimes too mellow: how to extricate yourself from deep snow on the flat!

The next day we went again to Claviere, spring has sprung but the snow was great.


Last Friday Arno was passing through AdH on his way to La Grave, we've not really made the most of the area and were more than happy to take his offer of showing us a couple of things.

After a good morning the clouds came in at the top which mikes hiking up a bit further more interesting! Anyway we got were we were going and dropped onto La Pyramide.

Arnoletting go.


Having availed ourself of as much local knowledge as our brains could take we headed back on the Monday to hit the Loupe bowl and Le Epaule de la Fare.

Me dropping into La Combe du Loupe

Lower down: dirty snow makes white lines.

A little couloir entering the Fare shoulder.

Tuesday and we headed back again this time to hike for the Arete de la Piefroid, the guidebook calls it Pied Froid or cold feet but that wasn't going to happen on this climb.

gorilla heading up to the col.


on the ridge

Our handy work.

On the way down we spotted a nice looking couloir, the next day Scottish Skier and I headed back to hit it. It's not in our guide so we don't know the name it was possibly a fraction over 36 degrees and less than 2m at the choke.

Me in it.


And back out of it, the line is the left trending one from the peak in the ridge directly above my head.
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Nice!! I think you may be missing a photo as I can't see Gorilla....
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looks like some nice spring conditions there
hadn't realised Piefroid had made it into a guidebook - must be the new edition. lots of nice skiing accessible from that traverse
and... this needs a bump because it's got a bazillion times more stoke than most season update threads Cool
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hadn't realised Piefroid had made it into a guidebook


It hasn't really but refers to the ridge in one of the other descriptions.

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it's got a bazillion times more stoke than most season update threads

Toofy Grin Cool
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Great TR... this is too good to be buried here...
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Swirly, don't know what made me, as an incompetent skier, look belatedly at this thread. Absolutely brilliant account and stunning photos. Thank you!
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I like how it develops from the protagonists poking around off the side of pistes at the beginning of the season to riding it to the road at La Grave with rope work and everything! Great stuff Cool
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But how're they gonna keep him down on the farm, now that he's seen L.A.?
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But a bit slow on updates eh wink enjoy your last week, make every minute count Cool
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Not sure how many more of these there will be as the season gets closer and closer to the end Sad.

Last Friday we had fresh snow so headed over to La Grave, the glacier was completely untracked when we got to P3. Obviously we had to put that right:


We carried on down La Banane


Scottish Skier met some guys from back home who were staying in a van at La Grave so the next day we headed off to the Col du Lauteret with them for a short tour. As a boarder touring isn’t the most fun but putting in the effort can result in fantastic snow. Five of us set off from the car park and we were quickly joined by a 6th as we made our way up some relatively gentle terrain. The terrain got steeper and the extra fitness of the four who are (hopefully) half way up Mt Blanc atm.

Me reaching the top.

The best part should always be the descent wink even though there is something slightly twisted about hiking for three hours for a 10 minute ride down to the car.

Haggis Trap opens up.

A couple of days later there was more fresh snow, seemingly the wet April had finally turned up. Although it’s rained a lot in town there was never any danger of that happening at altitude. Scottish Skier and I headed to the Couloir Electrique. The shape of the couloir is deceptive and the ridable line is much narrower than it appears in photos.



Scottish Skier in and out the couloir.

The exit bowl

Some more snow came and we went back to Alpe D’Huez aiming to knock off the stunning line of the Cerisier couloir and bowl. Sadly the lifts back from the Sarenne Gorge were now shut so that was a no go without a very very long walk. A shorter walk was the one to the top of the Pyramide so we decided to do that twice.




We also hit the Fare canyon having a bit of fun on the way:


One bowl along from La Pyramide is L’Impossible which we thought might just be Possible although the entry looked somewhat sketchy. Getting through the rocks would leave us on the unbelievably wide and untracked Glacier des Rouses.

Gorilla just below the very rocky entry.

L’Impossible: C’est Possible
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GREEN WITH ENVY!!!! Evil or Very Mad l'Impo in powder is much fun (you should have traversed hard skier's right at the earliest opportunity though NehNeh )

Glad you hooked up with Haggis Trap and Gregor too
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Arno, yeah, it was pretty good. There was a slight wind crust on the surface but this wasn't too challenging and mainly meant that you skied it pursued by lumps of snow. The entry was not expecially easy, though. We underestimated the amount of rock there is on the slope and lurking just under the snow. Anyhow - I actually took the camera with me in addition to the usual detritus I stick in the bag hence there are some snaps.


Swirly opens it up on the glacier




Just for a sense of scale.


The view down the line. The entry is at the top right of the pic, our tracks run across the left.


Someone looks like he needs a beer.

This is probably going to be the last thing I stick in here, other than the Wheel of Destruction shots I have of Swirly and ScottishSkier but those will have to wait.
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gorilla, you can link that with the Col du Couard and get all the way back to la Villette at 1200m - that's a vertical drop of 2100m almost all off piste!
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Arno, that sounds like one for next season. If no one ups sticks to the snow for the season again we're considering a week or so in AdH. The place is full of unfinished business.
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Arno, doubt there's any snow down there now. Isn't the Col really flat? looks it on the map.
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Swirly, you need to go hard skier's right at the bottom of l'Impo and traverse round to a lake (covered in snow/ice) then climb up a few metres. You then ski down a not very steep slope into a big bowl under the face of l'Etendard. This is a nice ski and brings you out onto a flatish area (which should have enough angle to keep a boarder moving) which takes you down to the col. The couloir under the col is probably about blue/red run steepness most of the way down - a little steeper at the top
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Swirly, that shot of The Haggis (below the one of you reaching the top) is a cracker Very Happy
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Swirly, gorilla, what a great way to finish off the season Cool
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gorilla wrote:
Just for a sense of scale.


The view down the line. The entry is at the top right of the pic, our tracks run across the left.


Do you remember where you took this from - can't work out where would have a view like that
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Swirly & Gorilla popped round last night to say goodbye. They will now be well en route for the port. Crying or Very sad What a great thread though, and fantastic photos. Why do so many go to the Haute Savoie and completely ignore l'Oisans??? I will never understand it. rolling eyes
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easiski, I guess you figured the bbq was a non-starter on Sunday with all that rain, we spent a fair few hours cleaning our apartment instead! Thanks for the lessons and hopefully I'll see you again next year when this minor injury sorts itself out.
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Arno, I think I took that from the bottom of the cable car with the long lens. I can't really remember, though. I don't recall pausing for photos on the lower section of the line as it was warming up quite quickly.
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I've been back in the UK for 2 days now, god that's depressing!

Before trying to wrap this thread up I'd like to say a huge thanks to everyone who has helped out with advice both before and during the time in L2A, especially to easiski & Lizzard also Dougie from the Yeti for all the cheap beer and constant requests for bad music. Also everyone I've ridden with through the season: too many to mention.

In the end the season kind of died out, after the day on L'impossible it went cold again and stayed cold till the lifts shut meaning the snow was generally too hard to be much fun. We didn't even go to the top on the last day. It snowed after and we planned for a final trip over to La Grave but had to clean out the apartment which took a bit longer than expected. The drive back was pretty uneventful, we left at half 8 and were booked on the 2200 ferry, a pretty knackering drive back got us to Dunkerque for 10 to 6 and they put us on the 8 o'clock boat but there was a bit of space left on the 1800 sailing so we got bunked up and coasted on running on fumes (petrol is loads cheaper in the UK atm), all in the trip was just under 13 hrs door to door.

I'd like to finish off with a few stats that we collected over the 5 months away:
Most Lifts Taken Without A Run: 5
Powder Days: 22
Miles Driven: 2964.7
Tours: 2
Rocks Hit: Lots...
Core Shots: 19
Most People Staying in the Appartment at Once:5
Deepest Powder: 80cm
Karaoke Attempts: 6
Cheapest Night Out: 8€ for 9 pints and 2 Jagerbombs.
Triple Pepper Burgers Obtained: 4
Money Spent on Guides: £0

And I'll definitely do it again just as soon as I get the money together!

Thanks for reading.
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Thanks for the updates but on your stats ....you missed out some .... heres a couple that spring to mind:-

- Most chat up lines attempted in one night :
- Total chalet girls deflowered :
- Piste side projectiles due to aforementioned Jagerbombs :
- Days spent wearing a helmet

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- Total chalet girls deflowered :


I'm not sure that's possible...
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0 I wasn't sick at all... wink
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Well I bought one in Jan so 4 or 5 maybe... I got it for the Derby de la Meije as it's in the rules then didn't enter in time. Wore it in the trees and couloirs a couple of times.
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