Poster: A snowHead
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Hi Thinking of going to Ischgl next year but someones told me the snow can be very dodgy there and sometimes it's a bit green is this right has anyone evr gone there and had a week of not being able to ski??
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Can't give you a definate answer as have never been, but i recently posted a message saying that i had ruled out many Austrian resorts for a Jan trip due to them being generally lower and not as snow sure.... i got torn apart by the austrian based 's and Austria ski fans! The general gist of what they were saying is that Austria is fine - just like anywhere else. In fact, Austria has had the best early snow for the past couple of seasons (i'm pretty sure i read that somewhere recently).
As for Ischgl itself, I think it is very reliable for snow. Other snowheads may correct me on this one but i think it has a longer season than many other resorts?
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It kind of depends on when and where the snow falls, but, hey.... guess what, that rule works for anywhere in the mountains...
Just do a very minor bit of research, go and look at the resort height and top height at Ischgl and then contemplate on the question of why on earth those heights should be any less snow sure than an awful lot of supposed "snow sure" French resorts...
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Nearly all the skiing in Ischgl is at over 2000m, there are only a couple of resort runs lower down, so you would still have a great time even if they were closed. This year in early January everything was open in excellent condition. Last season we were there in February, and the resort runs were open despite the fact that apart from the pistes there was no snow at valley level. I believe they kept them open down to village for pretty much the whole season. They have also invested so much money in the ski area that they have snowmaking wherever there is the slightest need, and the pisting is very good. We originally chose Ischgl because it is reasonably snow-sure, and this was borne out when we went there last year.
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For snowsureability I trust WTSS a lot on its 5 snowflake rating.
5 means there is definatly going to be good snow. eg Tignes/ Val Thorens
4 Should be good between dec-apr. Should always be able to ski down to the bottom of the resort. eg Alpe d'Huez/Les Arcs
3. Snow all season on some slopes. However runs to the bottom can be slushy or shut. Often has an irregular snow record. eg Mayrhofen
2. Low Altitude and Susceptible to melting snow. eg Morzine/Sauze d'Oulx/Kitzbuhel
Ischgl is rated as 4. This means that the snow record is rather good and there should be enough snow every year.
Obviously you cannot rely completly on this rating. As it gives all the Andoran resorts 4 and the snow there this year is awful.
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juliebenn, Ischgl is one of the most reliable resorts in the entire Alps, let alone Austria. If there's no snow there then there probably won't be any snow anywhere. Don't worry. What time of year are you planning on going?
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MMMM thanks for the replys as a skier who has skied the last 5 years at La Plagne and had grerat snow every year I'm looking to try somewhere different but aybe I should stay in France as it generally sees to be more snow sure than Austria unless anyone thinks different..........
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The higher you go, the likelier it is to be white.
In Nov and May, 2000m is the absolute minimum height the resort must be at to typically ensure snow.
In Dec and Apr, it is 1800m.
In Mar, it is 1500m.
In Jan and Feb, it is around 700m in the Eastern Alps and 1000m in the Western Alps.
Ischgl sits at 1400m, topping out at 2900m.
Ischgl should be fine if you are going in Jan, Feb or early Mar.
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Whitegold wrote: |
The higher you go, the likelier it is to be white.
In Nov and May, 2000m is the absolute minimum height the resort must be at to typically ensure snow.
In Dec and Apr, it is 1800m.
In Mar, it is 1500m.
In Jan and Feb, it is around 700m in the Eastern Alps and 1000m in the Western Alps.
Ischgl sits at 1400m, topping out at 2900m.
Ischgl should be fine if you are going in Jan, Feb or early Mar. |
That's a fantastic generalisation if ever I've seen it! Cue line of people saying "I've been to resort X at x hundred metres in March and it was green..." or "I've been to resort X at x hundred metres and there was tonnes of snow in April..."
I've been to low-lying (600-ish metres) resorts in Austria in March three times in indifferent snow years and have had lying snow and valley runs open every time.
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Glaciers apart, Ischgl is about as snow sure as you'll get.
We were there first week od Dec and conditions were simply superb. Admitted this seasons early snow was better than average, but the locals are adamant that there is 90% chance of skiing back to village from December.
Long season too, usually unil late April.
I'd have no hesitation in going there again at any time of the season.
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juliebenn, Nowhere is snow sure unless it has a glacier. I've never heard that Ishgl is any different.
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easiski wrote: |
juliebenn, Nowhere is snow sure unless it has a glacier. |
Really ??
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You know it makes sense.
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I went to Ischgl for a day in early April last season when it was warm and followed a season with not a lot of snow and it was fine. In fact, it was better than fine: it was great. Mushy on the lower runs and solid ice off piste but the pistes were fine
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Poster: A snowHead
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masmith, Of course. If it doesn't snow at all then the only snow will be on the glaciers. It happened here a few years ago at Xmas/New year. It did not snow one solitary flake until 27/28 Dec - there was no snow between the man made stuff at the bottom and the glacier. However, if it had been warm like last year there wouldn't have been the man made either. So - it's possible. Not likely I grant you, but possible. To describe any resort as 'snow-sure' if it doesn't have a glacier is suggesting that the elements can be controlled. OTOH, most ski resorts have a record of decent snowfall, or they wouldn't invest millions in uplift.
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Brilliant I'm going to go to Ischgl next year and hope for the best - thanks for all your replys
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juliebenn wrote: |
Brilliant I'm going to go to Ischgl next year and hope for the best - thanks for all your replys |
Think I just got a hotel for March 15-22nd so I can't wait ...
Keep snowing!!
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Whitegold wrote: |
The higher you go, the likelier it is to be white.
In Nov and May, 2000m is the absolute minimum height the resort must be at to typically ensure snow.
In Dec and Apr, it is 1800m.
In Mar, it is 1500m.
In Jan and Feb, it is around 700m in the Eastern Alps and 1000m in the Western Alps.
Ischgl sits at 1400m, topping out at 2900m.
Ischgl should be fine if you are going in Jan, Feb or early Mar. |
Utterly clueless.
Ischgl might sit at 1400m, but 90% of the ski area is above 2000 metres.
Some photos of Ischgl, early April 2006. Every run in the place was open (even the runs to the resort, although they were nice and slushy).
The end of season concert is at the end of April.
Early March indeed.
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Lager thanks it looks amazing which apartment did you stay in as it looks nice?
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juliebenn wrote: |
Lager thanks it looks amazing which apartment did you stay in as it looks nice? |
We stayed at the Flianna. Brilliant apartment and the owners were really helpful. Handy for the lifts and the Schatzi bar as well.
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Yes t is snow sure. They have snowmaking top to bottom on both sides of the valley. Dont worry. You can ski top to town in End of Novemeber to end of April.
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stanton, yep I agree it is snow sure, but you can argue the technicalities of that statement with easiski, I can't be bovered.
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Thanks for your help the map is great
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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just back from ischgl & snow superb . Talking to a bar owner there, one of his busiest times is the beginning of may when most of the other austrian resorts shut & the resort workers head up there to party & enjoy the late snow largely free of tourists. Could just be good PR but don't think so !
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