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Cooling the planet: the scientists spell it out

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Scientists in Stockholm are proposing new targets and technologies to suck CO2 out of the atmosphere, return the carbon to the earth, and get global warming under control.

The figures and challenges suggest substantial changes to our 'lifestyles'.

This report from the EuroScience Open Forum 2004 by BBC Online.
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As long as that pesky gulfstream switches off, I'm right with them snowHead
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From the article:
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Scientists speaking here at EuroScience Open Forum 2004 said governments should be exploring the potential of Negative Emissions Technologies (NETs) which could actively remove CO2 from the atmosphere

Didn't we use to call Negative Emissions Technologies "trees"?

There's another series of articles on BBC online recently, banging on about how marginal agriculture is in many areas of the UK now. Maybe one of our contributions to reducing CO2 could be re-forestation.


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Better get it sorted out quickly then because some of the models I've seen are far worse than those quoted here.
If Greenland melts then it's goodbye gulf stream without the southbound colder deep currents, so it's 'global cooling' for us.
The worse scenario though is if the carbon dioxide global warming kills off part of the brazilian rainforest, so that becomes a contributor to emissions instead of Negative Emission Technology. And it doesn't end there. At this point the ocean warms enough to release Methane currently stored at depth due to the temperature and pressure. This then increases warming, heats the ocean some more, more methane released. Mehtane is more of a greenhouse gas than CO2.
No skiing if this takes place. Not much of anything really. The earth will balance it always does. Probably come back to normal then, cos we won't be polluting, we won't be here.
Have a nice day there.
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Did anyone notice the other article about the village sinking into the sea and wonder what the effects on the trans-Alaska pipeline, say, might be?



Let's do our part: more wood-core skis per capita!
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The most dramatic and genuine thing the government could do immediately is to halt further airport expansion.

But we should also push for international agreement on this, so the UK is not put to competitive disadvantage. But it's a nonsense for aircraft pollution to be 'isolated' from the disciplines of the Kyoto protocol on reducing CO2 emissions.
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Very true, unfortunately it is a fact that governments all over the world have to look after their national interests before their enviromental interests, to fail to do so means they get removed from office, unfortunately in countries such as the USA buisiness interests far exceed any enviromental concerns, amazingly the US has admitted that the long term enviromental issues are likely to be far more hamful to themselves than any terrorist activity, but dealing with terror is much easier to do with guns than looking after the planet Crying or Very sad

Until the peoples of the world come together to demand action no action will be carried out.

comments such as

It's too damaging to our economy
Our people don't care
Our scientists do not agree that there is any problem
What can we do about it
It's not our responsibility

have all been used to deny responsibility or to justify no action.

It's already too late for thousands of people throughout the world, for many others time is limited but until their own people start dying (and sometimes not even then) governments will not carry out any significant action
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I can't imagine that the destiny of the Maldive Islands (possibly the nation with the lowest life expectancy in terms of remaining above sea level - no land higher than 2m-3m, as far as I know) will concern the major powers.

Interestingly the Maldive Islands are an Islamic state (as far as I'm aware).

Sorry I've not done a fact check on the above, but I'll try to confirm later.
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David Goldsmith wrote:

Interestingly the Maldive Islands are an Islamic state (as far as I'm aware).
Correct - and they are going to need God on their side. But unlike some Islamic states, non Muslims can get a drink. Pragmatic - since all they've got going for them is tourism and some fishing.
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David Goldsmith, maybe we should make the politicians who refuse to accept that there are any problems go and live on the Maldives for a while, perhaps it would change their attitude but I doubt it Crying or Very sad
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The devastating hurricane season of 2004 is being linked to a significantly warmer Atlantic ocean. Whether that's linked to a warmer atmosphere is debatable, but it's raising additional concern about wild weather this year.

Yesterday's Observer newspaper ran this story.
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Ok now with referance to this, does a warmer Atlantic mean more moist air over the Alps (and thus more snow) this winter or less ?
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Regarding the Scottish ski areas, it would be interesting to know if sea temperatures off the west coast are higher than normal, as the Atlantic tends to be the source of the Highlands snow cover.

The south-westerlies and westerlies have tended to dump too much rain, and not enough snow, in recent winters.
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David Goldsmith wrote:
The devastating hurricane season of 2004 is being linked to a significantly warmer Atlantic ocean. Whether that's linked to a warmer atmosphere is debatable, but it's raising additional concern about wild weather this year.

Yesterday's Observer newspaper ran this story.


It's not likely to be a warmer atmosphere at least not this year. It seems like many areas of the planets are significantly cooler this year at least that what this analysis seems to be suggesting.
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Lager, Interesting so if Europe does cool this winter and land always cools faster than the sea, we could indeed have a bumper snow year, I guess we will just have to wait and see what the next coiuple of months brings
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