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Should bears be kept out of ski areas?

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The Canadian resort of Lake Louise is considering encircling its ski area with a 10km electric fence to keep out grizzly bears. The plans are opposed by people who like to see wildlife roaming free in the mountains.

This report from Cnews (Canoe)

Is this an unjustified bear scare? (a grizzly apparently injured some tourists back in 1995) Would you take the risk of skiing Lake Louise without the electric fence?

Please bear all.


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David, the bears have every right to be there. It is their natural habitat after all. If they put up an electric fence I'll refuse to ski there ever again!!!! Poor teddies!!!
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Ahh put them in a zoo! Its bad enough with trees to avoid when skiing, let alone bears!
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Well, if Grizzly Adams can deal with them, so can we! Let the bears roam, I say!
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Terrible idea. Part of the charm (and joke) about Louise is that you might fall down a tree hole and land in someone's "hallway". In the winter they're kind of herded into a 'safe' place away from the ski runs and in the summer, well that's where they roam. Grizzly Gully is not named without reason!

It would be a real shame if they did this. Sad

I ski every year at louise and there's no bloody risk at all from bears, they hibernate for god's sake, besides which, bears may be fast, but I'd like to see them beat me down the ladies downhill! snowHead
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Ought to add, LL's summer tourism relies a lot (the ski hill part) on the chairlift up to Eagle Lodge and watching the effing bears. Sorry, this idea has gotten my quite riled!
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Alexandra, i agree. Rediculious propsal. Mountains are about nature, and it is the bears natural habitat. All these communities have to have bear safety schemes, but enclosing it is too far.
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Only if they're on a snowboard Laughing
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Alexandra, i quite agree. What a terrible idea.
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I'm adding my 2 cents worth. LEAVE THE BEARS ALONE.
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I recently came across this photo, it clearly shows that bears are actually a bonus to ski resorts and get on extremely well with skiers and have done for some time, the picture was taken in 1966 and shows my mother in, surprise surprise Wengen
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You're okay as long as you keep an eye on your picnic basket.
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Which is your mother?


(sorry, DGO)
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David, you've got to admit its an EPIC photo.
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While we're on the subject of animals in the streets of ski resorts here's a man with a monkey on a string (in a Russian ski resort).
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David, do you think that could be an escapee from JWAZ?
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No, I think it escaped from C&A.
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Thats cruel - no one should be forced to wear a one piece anymore.
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That's no monkey. It's Michael Jackson when he was black
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Leave the bears free!
The barking ones too!!!
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I'd be surprised if the risk of injury or death from bear-attack registered on the same scale as other skiing hazards. I bet the risk of skiing into the electric fence would be greater. My vote is definitely for the bears!

(BTW, I've had a close encounter with a bear (albeit black, not grizzly) on Mt. Rainier in Washington State, and seem to have lived to tell the tale.)
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Bears have been part of life in Yosemite and other parks in the US for long enough that there has been time to formulate policies that work and still allow bears themselves to be part of the attraction of the park.

Unless they have some stronger reason than inconvenience to tourists, I agree that the electric fence should be kept out of Banff. Until the highway is twinned and a reasonable crossing provided.
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Comprex, how do you explain those policies to the bears, though?

My vote is to leave the bears alone. I can't believe nadenoodlee wanted to put them into a zoo. I hate zoos, especially for large animals.
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I'm all for letting the bears roam if anything it should make me ski faster Razz
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Cedric, Laughing haven't heard from you in a time.

No point explaining an open door policy to bears, Barking or otherwise; they'll come in anyhow.
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David Goldsmith wrote:
While we're on the subject of animals in the streets of ski resorts here's a man with a monkey on a string (in a Russian ski resort).


Hmm. If you dont mind skiing with monkeys on the piste, try Shiga Kogen resort in Japan. Especially the area around Higashiyama.

Ski resorts in Japan open early and one morning around 7 we were skiing here. However, the piste was blocked by some hundred or so monkeys crossing the piste. Confused

It seems to be common as everyone just stood and watch, waiting until they had crossed and carried on skiing Razz

The monkeys descend to the restauarnats and hotels in the valley during the day and scrouge. In fact, if you leave your hotel room window open they will ransack the room!

We experienced some rather fat monkeys at the restaurant that day. They just sit on the end of the table and wait.... Shocked Not sure if they were after my food or me
Anyway.....monkeys and people seem to get along well

So what's the odd bear to one hundred monkeys NehNeh
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Leave those bears alone. It makes skiing a lot more exciting when you have a bear chasing you down the piste!! Shocked

No seriously, why do human beings think they have the right to keep animals away from places that they have roamed in for more years than can be counted.

It is there land as much as ours.
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We experienced some rather fat monkeys at the restaurant that day.

It's always best to order them lean, or at any rate well done Toofy Grin

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It makes skiing a lot more exciting when you have a bear chasing you down the piste!!

Actually the official advice is always to flee downhill from a bear: their front legs can't bear (groan) the weight of running downhill very easily, but they're much more nimble than a human going uphill.
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laundryman - unless the bears on skis? Very Happy
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I think if I tried to run away from a bear going up hill I would probably have a heart attack and they would have a very easy meal!!!!!!
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I forgot to add that in the photo above the large bear on the right is wearing ski boots though they are not very clear in this image Shocked
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According to Libération, "Fat Albert" has struck again.
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DENVER - A paraplegic Aspen Colorado local had to wait helplessly in his bedroom for a couple of hours while a 230 kg brown bear, nicknamed Fat Albert, helped itself to everything edible in the man's kitchen.

"I had two kilos of chocolate. It ate the lot. War is declared", complained Tom Isaac, following the incident which took place on September 20th.

"I heard everything being smashed up", he went on, telling of his fear that the animal might find its way into his bedroom. Tom has been paralysed ever since a skiing accident in the 1980s.

Not the first time "Fat Albert" has dropped in. The bear has visited Tom a good half-dozen times. "The very next day the Rangers found the bear having a sleep in my dining-room", added Isaac.

At this time of year the bears 'overeat' to fatten themselves up for hibernation, and this sometimes leads to them breaking into houses in the search for food.
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Should bears be kept out of ski areas? I think they should for their own safety
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If the fence to keep the bears out
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skiers in ??? Very Happy snowHead Very Happy
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Whilst tree skking in LL I found it to be quite an incentive to stay upright, with the thought that I might wake up a hungry bear in a bad mood.

It would be a sad day if the bears were forced away. There's no way that they would come out of hibernation during the height of the LL ski season its way too cold.
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There's no way that they would come out of hibernation during the height of the LL ski season its way too cold.


Not even if a group of skiers skied over the bear's house/lair/structure of twigs not string enough to support the weight of a skier? Shocked Skullie
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Not even if a group of skiers skied over the bear's house/lair/structure of twigs not string enough to support the weight of a skier?

Even more incentive for skiers to stay fit Laughing
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Waking one up on your own could be a problem, however, I wouldn't be too worried if I was in a group as I'd make sure I wasn't the slowest so that someone else gets munched Twisted Evil
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if a group of skiers skied over the bear's house/lair/structure of twigs not strong enough to support the weight of a skier?


Wow, clever bears if they're setting up those sort of traps. They'll be skiing next and then there really is a problem.
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NickW,
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Wow, clever bears if they're setting up those sort of traps. They'll be skiing next and then there really is a problem

see the picture above taken in 1966, the bear on the right was wearing ski boots even then Laughing
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