I'm 40 now. I'd love to learn to flip. Apart from while stacking; is this a realistic proposition? Happy to put the work in. Anyone else felt the need a little later in life?
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Yes, if my mind starts to wander, although at 56 I feel it's pretty unlikely now. I watch our twin boys do it most days from standing & they make it look so easy.
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its all in the hips
Any local trampoline class? one where they strap you in?
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Definitely all in the hips, and jumping UP, not backwards... I was a trampoline coach once upon a time, and occasionally we used to put blades on and do back somersaults in the rig. NEVER been tempted to even try it on snow though, it's bad enough just watching my son doing them!
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Mr.Egg wrote:
its all in the hips
Definitely this - remembering from gymnastics and trampolining in my teens.
I've done a few onto airbags over the years, but never plucked up the courage without. I'm forty seven now, and it's feeling unlikely that I ever will.
Mind you, I've recently had a couple of big crashes on the dry slope in slalom gates and not done any serious damage, so crashing seems less scary than it has for a while.
Perhaps you could keep us informed of your progress?
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@motdoc,
no but I did get seduced by the idea of nailing a 360 at about your age. Couple of narrow escapes with injury and I filed it under "too old for that nonsense". Flips? no thanks.
Was on a heliskiing trip when the brilliant austrian skier (one of the clients, about 35) landed this huge backflip in a full crucifix position off a natural kicker. Was extremely cool but spinal injuries are not.
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I'm toying with the idea at 30... I can do it into water from a standing position etc (i.e. by a pool) but it seems a lot more intimidating when skiing
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I've seen people who can flip for fun off the smallest lip but they are usually exclusively under the age of 30. Risk/reward from being inverted without a lot of gymnastic type experience past that age seems pretty skewed.
Airbag maybe.
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jedster wrote:
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one is much more likely to put you in hospital - it's not just a question of seeming!
Well you say that..... okay yeah you're right
I think the main thing is you spend a lot of time when skiing trying not to go upside down, so doing it deliberately is a bit unnatural!
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@motdoc, I was never brilliant but could do backwards somersaults on a trampoline, but I’ve packed that in now (I’m 41). I’ve done backflips onto an airbag with skis, but after a dozen that went well, one didn’t go so well and my ski popped off and caught me in the mouth (I think), cracking a tooth. I’ve given that up also.
My 10 year old can do a backwards somersault from standing on the ground, and does some very nice backwards layout somersaults on the trampoline. I think he’ll be keen to try on skis this season. Airbag first. But I’m worried about backflips in the snowpark. It’s not a soft landing.
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Themasterpiece wrote:
@motdoc, I was never brilliant but could do backwards somersaults on a trampoline, but I’ve packed that in now (I’m 41). I’ve done backflips onto an airbag with skis, but after a dozen that went well, one didn’t go so well and my ski popped off and caught me in the mouth (I think), cracking a tooth. I’ve given that up also.
My 10 year old can do a backwards somersault from standing on the ground, and does some very nice backwards layout somersaults on the trampoline. I think he’ll be keen to try on skis this season. Airbag first. But I’m worried about backflips in the snowpark. It’s not a soft landing.
All the advice I have heard is snowpark should be the last place to try them when skiing. Soft off-piste first. Although I think they still just bounce and get up at 10 years old, so I'm sure he'll be fine!
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Bennisboy wrote:
Themasterpiece wrote:
My 10 year old can do a backwards somersault from standing on the ground, and does some very nice backwards layout somersaults on the trampoline. I think he’ll be keen to try on skis this season. Airbag first. But I’m worried about backflips in the snowpark. It’s not a soft landing.
All the advice I have heard is snowpark should be the last place to try them when skiing. Soft off-piste first. Although I think they still just bounce and get up at 10 years old, so I'm sure he'll be fine!
Yes, off a kicker into deep snow I could cope with watching (finding deep snow in Sweden is the issue...). I’ve seen kids not much older being carted off from the snowpark with a brace around their neck, and I can only imagine what emotions their parents are going through at that time.
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motdoc wrote:
I'm 40 now. I'd love to learn to flip. Apart from while stacking; is this a realistic proposition? Happy to put the work in. Anyone else felt the need a little later in life?
I learned to do this on a British Freestyle camp at the ripe old age of 36. You do it on trampoline, airbag and finally, from a kicker. It requires some big balls - balls which, after a big accident in the park and subsequent surgeries in 2017, I no longer have.
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jedster wrote:
@motdoc,
no but I did get seduced by the idea of nailing a 360 at about your age. Couple of narrow escapes with injury and I filed it under "too old for that nonsense". Flips? no thanks.
Was on a heliskiing trip when the brilliant austrian skier (one of the clients, about 35) landed this huge backflip in a full crucifix position off a natural kicker. Was extremely cool but spinal injuries are not.
@jedster, It was doing a 360 off a rail (at the age of 41) that tore my left knee to pieces. I had been massively overconfident having been doing them all morning, and went in far to slowly. Landed backwards at a 45 degree angle, no binding release, and some pretty impressive consequences I missed and My short-lived days of doing tricks are now over. The thought of doing what I did to my leg to my spine are simply too much for me to contemplate.
I'm still happy to jump and land pointing forwards. Anything involving inversion or rotation is firmly off the menu now!! And I agree with the point above - soft landings only now. I will continue to backflip onto airbags as it's hysterically good fun. I may try it into big, deep powder if conditions allow (maybe). But I am not going near a snow park (except for medium, easy landing kickers) ever again.
If you're old and over 40, your reactions, muscles, balance, spatial awareness and flexibility are gonna be too slow for an onpiste backflip with normal skis.
Getting the flip and spin is easy.
Controlling the spin, in heavy boots and planks, and prepping for the landing, in a half-second, is the hard part.
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@motdoc, Whitegold talks novena nonsense 98% of the time, ignore him
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I disagree with some of the sentiment on this thread. It is achievable though punching above your weight if you only started skiing a few years ago.
I learnt to flip straight to snow having tried the bag a couple of times aged 28 but I had logged a lot of ski time previously and skate/surf quite a bit too.
Definitely invest in back protector, lid and I would say mouth guard too (stops cocussion and makes you commit). Also make sure you are v fit beforehand - at least two consecutive weeks on snow to give your core and legs a chance to build.
Finally get a mate who can do it to show you.
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I agree with Whitegold, although maybe start at 8 not 14.
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