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Basecamp vs ICE vs snowskool vs wintersport

 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi everyone, I am new to here and is looking for advices on choosing the right snowboard instructor course, really appreciate if anyone could share your experience or provide more information for my decision making!!

My target: Obtain BASI snowboard instructor level 1 & 2 qualification in Jan 2019; seek for a job in Europe; go for level 3/higher level in the future.

I have been searching for the courses. They all seems similar to me: cost, location, programme design, career support, etc. I really can't tell the difference e.g. the teaching style; which course is more serious and job-oriented. I am currently waiting for my visa and won't be able to visit the course centre in person. Could anyone please advice if the following courses are suitable for me and their pros & cons may be?

1. Basecamp
11 weeks BASI snowboard instructor level 1 & 2 @ Méribel

2. ICE
10 weeks BASI snowboard instructor level 1 & 2 @ Val d'Isère

3. Wintersport
10 weeks BASI snowboard instructor level 1 & 2 @ Tignes

4. Snowskool
12 weeks BASI snowboard instructor level 1 & 2 @ 3 Valleys


My background: age 29; Asian; have experience in board sports therefore I chose snowboard not ski; will be holding the working-holiday visa and speak basic Français; open to any job opportunities in resorts.

My plan: I am planning to go to France in August to practise snowboarding for at least 2 months as a preparation to the course and to be familiar with the surrounding as I have never been to any mountains in Europe.


Thank you for reading all of these and kindly share something if possible. I came from the other half of the world with limited budget so this decision is crucial to my life and I am determined to get the qualification. DEEP BIG THANKS again!! snowHead snowHead snowHead
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Autumnsnow wrote:
My plan: I am planning to go to France in August to practise snowboarding for at least 2 months
This won't be possible as none of the French glacier resorts will be open in August through until the end of September.
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Where do you want to teach and can you ski? You will struggle to get a full season job as just a snowboard instructor at BASI 2 level, so you'd really need a second discipline (ie skiing). Maybe also consider the Anwaerter course that Ski Instructor Academy offer in Austria, and they do offer a dual course that can get you both the skin and snowboard Anwaerter which allows you to teach the same as a BASI 2 instructor (anywhere other than France, that's a while different ball game).
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rob@rar wrote:
Autumnsnow wrote:
My plan: I am planning to go to France in August to practise snowboarding for at least 2 months
This won't be possible as none of the French glacier resorts will be open in August through until the end of September.


Thanks for your reply. I target to practise for 2 months before joining the course, Oct to Dec will do if there are no resort Sad I just want to arrive earlier, to walk around and practise also my François too.

I thought Tignes and Val d'Isère offer summer ski pass (Jun-Aug)?

https://en.tignes.net/what-to-see-do/skiing/summer-skiing
https://www.valdisere.com/en/activites/summer-skiing/
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Autumnsnow wrote:
I thought Tignes and Val d'Isère offer summer ski pass (Jun-Aug)?

Your Tignes link states that it will only be open until 5th August.
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Autumnsnow wrote:
I thought Tignes and Val d'Isère offer summer ski pass (Jun-Aug)?

https://en.tignes.net/what-to-see-do/skiing/summer-skiing
https://www.valdisere.com/en/activites/summer-skiing/
I thought you were arriving in August? Depending on conditions and the weather Tignes will close early August, and will not be open in September. It will re-open again in early October, with a few pistes on the glacier, then the report itself will open last weekend in November (depending on snow conditions).

Can I ask, how much boarding experience do you have?
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Sitter wrote:
Where do you want to teach and can you ski? You will struggle to get a full season job as just a snowboard instructor at BASI 2 level, so you'd really need a second discipline (ie skiing). Maybe also consider the Anwaerter course that Ski Instructor Academy offer in Austria, and they do offer a dual course that can get you both the skin and snowboard Anwaerter which allows you to teach the same as a BASI 2 instructor (anywhere other than France, that's a while different ball game).


Thanks for your information.
I know it is hard to get a job in France but I will set it as my target to teach in Europe esp. in German & French speaking countries therefore BASI is my choice. I did look into dual courses too but they are either snowboard lv 1 &2/ ski lv 1&2/ dual lv 1 in CASI/SBINZ. Understanding the demand for ski instructor may be higher, I myself do not have experience in ski therefore I would focus on the qualification in snowboard first (I have a bit more confidence in it..) and try skiiing during the course period to see if I could also obtain the ski qualification too. In the future I would definitely go for more qualifications, BASI level 1 & 2 is just the beginning!
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rob@rar wrote:
Autumnsnow wrote:
I thought Tignes and Val d'Isère offer summer ski pass (Jun-Aug)?

https://en.tignes.net/what-to-see-do/skiing/summer-skiing
https://www.valdisere.com/en/activites/summer-skiing/
I thought you were arriving in August? Depending on conditions and the weather Tignes will close early August, and will not be open in September. It will re-open again in early October, with a few pistes on the glacier, then the report itself will open last weekend in November (depending on snow conditions).

Can I ask, how much boarding experience do you have?


Thanks for your reminder! I should pencil down the resort opening dates & condition. I have not planned my trip in details yet, choosing the right course is my main concern and priority as I will stay in the course resort for the practise.

I have been surfing and riding longboard (downhill skateboarding) for 2.5 years, not an expert but familiar with slopes, speed, crash and the muscles control. Honestly I only tried snowboard for a few days in Japan before (self-learn), I feel similar to the other board sports, including the turns, motions, or jumping and I managed to ride the intermediate slopes at that time. But I definitely need more preparation and experience before I could become an instructor.
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Autumnsnow wrote:
I have been surfing and riding longboard (downhill skateboarding) for 2.5 years, not an expert but familiar with slopes, speed, crash and the muscles control. Honestly I only tried snowboard for a few days in Japan before (self-learn)
Do the courses you are looking at have a minimum entry standard of snowboarding ability? I'm not familiar with the boarding gap courses, but the skiing courses I know all require a minimum level of experience or ability. It's not especially high, but it is more than just a few days self-taught experience. You might want to find out about that before making firm plans.

Have you looked at any courses in Switzerland? It is normally a bit easier to get work as a Level 2 instructor there than in France.
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Yes I believe their minimum requirement is to feel comfortable on blue runs. That is exactly why I am going to practise for 2 months before joining the course (but I now need to pay the deposit to secure a place so I have to decide which course to join now). I will attend clinic or personal training if needed! Switzerland is also my goal too unfortunately there is no BASI course in Switzerland.
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Autumnsnow wrote:
Switzerland is also my goal too unfortunately there is no BASI course in Switzerland.
I think Altitude Ski & Board School in Verbier run snowboard gap courses.
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Hi Autumnsnow. I deliver the training for the Snowskool course in Meribel, so happy to answer any questions about that.
Just to clarify the course runs from January to March. The resort opens the second week of December so you could get nearly an month of practise and some additional tuition before the course if you came then, which you would likely need if you have only done a few days.
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Get some formal tuition if you haven't had any, it will be much more valuable than just practicing.
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check out snoworks in tignes
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ajc2260626 wrote:
check out snoworks in tignes
They don't do snowboarding.
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I would suggest you get some lessons instead of going out and just "riding" or "practicing". It will help you get the hang of technique, lingo, terminology that you will have to pass onto others. You also will not be able to properly practice skills when you have no diea what the specific skill sets are. I say this having done CSIA Level 1 and training for Level 2 and watched "competent ski all piste self taught skiers".
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