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my ski season ruined on third day !

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Been a while since last time I wrote something here, so i decided to come with a story Smile

Since last year and I was preparing for my ski holiday which happened on mid of March, it was my third ski holiday so i'm not a pro, but I do blue slopes easily and have to focus a little on red slopes.

I was on a blue slope enjoying a sunny day, specially it was snowing heavily the day before, it was one of those best days. I was at the end of the blue slope, it wasn't even green, just a straight area, so I wanted to reposition my gopro which was on my chest and I assume that my right ski went into the top of my left, I fall on my left shoulder, I felt something weird on my left ankle, felt like it was swelling, I took my boots, to rest, put them back, but I couldn't ski on my left leg, I knew something was wrong, had to ask for a bed thing to carry me to the village and to the hospital.

i had a level 2 ankle sprain, they told me I need to rest for 6 weeks ! because of a very stupid mistake, I'm kinda nervous to ski again to be honest, as I heard, once you have a sprained ankle, it is very easy to happen again. I live in Dubai and i would like to go back skiing in the indoor ski park, just not sure if it's a good idea lol, been 3 months now, I feel great I do any type of exercise normally though.

I assume my issue is, I do not have a full control when ski on straight flat area, i do have full control on a slope because I go left and right and it is easy to apply pressure on the left or right, but when skiing straight, the skis drive me more than I drive the ski , specially when I do not want to lose speed and try to stay at straight position. does it make any sense what I'm saying here?lol I need some feed back on what you think about this issue though!!

I was planning to get a trainer the day after and I know I had this iss and was going to as the ski instructor about an advice, but the injury happened and no class was taken Sad

here is a quick video of the trip I made

http://youtube.com/v/00HbED1_fzU
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Nice little video, imagine the fun you'll ave next season..

I think you are probably worrying too much, if you have full range of movement in your ankle, can walk up and down stairs normally you'll be ok. Get back on the snow and hone the technique.
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Youíll be fine but take some lessons.

Possibly... get better fitting boots? Ankle sprains I <think> are relatively rare if your boots fit correctly.
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It's always those stupid falls on green/blues that hurt..... Mrs M once broke her humerus when traversing a green to get to a restaurant for lunch after a morning playing off piste!
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Thanks Bob !

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et better fitting boots? Ankle sprains I <think> are relatively rare if your boots fit correctly.


I heard that to, which should not happened, but it did and i'm not sure, the boot I have is bought from a reputable shop in UK and took me more than an hour for the boot expert to get a perfect fit, another reason the boot wasn't tight enough perhaps ?
Definitely more lessons on the way!

Thanks for the reply !!
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It's always those stupid falls on green/blues that hurt..... Mrs M once broke her humerus when traversing a green to get to a restaurant for lunch after a morning playing off piste!


Exactly !! My self, I probably wasn't careful when going into green or easy slopes, like what the worst thing can happen? BAM no more skiing for you !!!
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Great video-the conditions looked fantastic. Saint Foy is a lovely little resort. I agree with the others-don't worry, get out there and ski some more.
We've all fallen on silly little slopes-but at least nothing was broken and your knees were intact!

Maybe your boots were a bit loose though. I also recommend lessons-I can see from the film and the shadow you cast (assuming you are the skier filming) that some lessons to improve technique would make you feel far more stable and in control-and there's nothing like lessons out on the real mountains rather than indoors. Very Happy
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aybe your boots were a bit loose though. I also recommend lessons-I can see from the film and the shadow you cast (assuming you are the skier filming) that some lessons to improve technique would make you feel far more stable and in control-and there's nothing like lessons out on the real mountains rather than indoors.


I can't agree more, nothing like the real thing Smile

i use the indoor to just practise during summer/before ski trip,

Next time I'll start with lessons at the beginning of the trip Smile
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Why not get a few regular lessons at the indoor slope from now until you go?
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BinGhanem wrote:

I assume my issue is, I do not have a full control when ski on straight flat area, i do have full control on a slope because I go left and right and it is easy to apply pressure on the left or right, but when skiing straight, the skis drive me more than I drive the ski , specially when I do not want to lose speed and try to stay at straight position. does it make any sense what I'm saying here?lol I need some feed back on what you think about this issue though!!


It could be a number of things:

1. not getting pressure forward on the flat - sitting back on the tails too much so the skis wander - that could be technique or boots
2. maybe you have something that needs addressing with footbeds or canting?
3. could even be a ski issue - bases not flat or other

My instinct is always to go with a technique issue, as that is what the majority of problems are, rather than looking for a fix but snowheads seem to have an extraordinary number of short legs, knocked knees, bow legs and foot issues. I would certain go out with an experienced skier (friend or instructor) and see what they think. It does make sense that you don't have the problem on slopes as you are forced to ski on the edges.
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BinGhanem wrote:
i had a level 2 ankle sprain ...
I had a Grade 2 ankle sprain (most likely the anterior talofibular ligament getting the most damage) last winter (not skiing, although ironically it was while I was at home recovering from a skiing injury). It's taken ages for it to recover, and probably still isn't back to 100% 15 months after the injury. About 5 weeks after the ankle sprain I did a little bit of gentle indoor skiing, and to be honest this was probably a bit too soon as skiing and putting the boot on & off was quite painful. After about 8 or 9 weeks indoor skiing was fine, and having my foot in a ski boot actually felt better than regular shoes as the boot as there was so little lateral movement of the ankle joint. If you injured your ankle in March I'd say that you should be fine to ski on it now, and starting off with some gentle skiing indoors is the perfect way to get back in to it.
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If you ski sooner or later you will get hurt and spoil a holiday - that's just reality. No reason to let it stop you enjoying next trip.

The flat area thing just sounds like a control issue with running flat - most people always try to keep a tiny bit of edge on for control.

Biomechanics can be an issue in such circumstances - if I'm skiing a really wide ski I find it almost impossible to edge on the same edges on the flat so end up on the inside edge of both skis
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BinGhanem wrote:
I assume my issue is, I do not have a full control when ski on straight flat area, i do have full control on a slope because I go left and right and it is easy to apply pressure on the left or right, but when skiing straight, the skis drive me more than I drive the ski , specially when I do not want to lose speed and try to stay at straight position. does it make any sense what I'm saying here?lol I need some feed back on what you think about this issue though!!
If you are trying to ski in a straight line on skis which are perfectly flat on the snow (across a cat track or flat run-out of a gentle piste, for example) it is very easy for the skis to "wander" around a little, and perhaps catch an edge so they suddenly veer off. As you say, it will feel like the skis are steering you more than you are steering the skis. The answer is never to be on a completely flat ski, always have the skis on their edges so they grip the snow a little, then you have much greater control of the direction the skis are heading in.

Probably wise to have a lesson with an instructor who can give you more direct feedback on any technique issues you might have.
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I had a lot of trouble with ankle strains in the past , but after physio and some exercises all is well.

One of the easiest exercises I was given to do was to stand on one leg on the bad ankle, with your eyes shut. You'd be amazed at how hard this is, but it helps train the ankle to regain it's stability. Try on the other foot - you'll see the difference.

I still do this regularly, and haven't had an ankle sprain now for over 10 years ( famous last words )
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One of the easiest exercises I was given to do was to stand on one leg on the bad ankle, with your eyes shut. You'd be amazed at how hard this is, but it helps train the ankle to regain it's stability. Try on the other foot - you'll see the difference.
I've done a lot of that over the last 12 months, graduating to doing it on a balance dome (half a bosu ball) when my ankle had regained some strength. Keeping your eyes closed really ramps up the exercise.
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As mentioned above, skis can wander on the flat (especially as you get more tired I find), so the key is a little ankle rolling to keep them slightly on either edge. Follow an instructor and they will be doing this.
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I do think it's technique that's letting the OP down, looking at the video even on the slopes it doesn't look as if he's got too much control over the front of his skis.
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marcellus wrote:
I do think it's technique that's letting the OP down, looking at the video even on the slopes it doesn't look as if he's got too much control over the front of his skis.


Yes, my point one. Helmet cams shots are not easy to analyse but he appears to be sitting too far back with no pressure on the front of the skis, hence the tips wander. Time to have some lessons/coaching. Over to you Rob!
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Yes, my point one. Helmet cams shots are not easy to analyse but he appears to be sitting too far back with no pressure on the front of the skis, hence the tips wander. Time to have some lessons/coaching. Over to you Rob!
For a week 3 skiier I thought it was looking OK, certainly having fun in some wonderful conditions in St Foy that week. Difficult to say for certain from the helmetcam, but Iíd agree that heís too far back on his skis, which is a pretty common issue. The common advice to force yourself in to a more forward position (sh@g, donít shlt) isnít especially helpful in my experience. I think a much better way to deal with being in the backseat is to work on the fundamental movements we make as our skis turn, especially at the start of the turn. The trouble with focusing on fore/aft position without fixing the fundamentals is that as soon as we switch focus to something else the old habits creep back.

But as lots of people have suggested, ski with an instructor or someone else with a good technical understanding and a decent eye for whatís going on will be much better than trying to guess whatís going on from a few frames of GoPro footage.
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Ditch the Go Pro. Look where you are going and/or the scenery.
Blue footage canít be worth it Twisted Evil
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BinGhanem wrote:


I assume my issue is, I do not have a full control when ski on straight flat area, i do have full control on a slope because I go left and right and it is easy to apply pressure on the left or right, but when skiing straight, the skis drive me more than I drive the ski , specially when I do not want to lose speed and try to stay at straight position. does it make any sense what I'm saying here?lol I need some feed back on what you think about this issue though!!



You can't really control a flat ski...it just goes with the surface. Eventually one of the skis will try to rip your leg off. I'm sure the boffins will correct me but skiing with a tiny bit of edge is always more comfortable and actually feels a bit quicker on that green run home.
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@BinGhanem, Looked lovely in St F. Canít really add much to the excellent advice above.
My humble opinion: Have lots of lessons before your trip, get out of the back seat and learn to use your edges for carved turns instead of skidding everywhere. Once you can do that it will blow your mind, youíll be on another level of performance n totally addicted snowHead
Then book 2 weeks in a row in a large area. If you canít manage that, then go on a week long, full-time ski lessons trip. Either will do wonders for your skiing.
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I'd be careful about giving too much ski advice, it can be very confusing and counter-productive for beginners.

The conditions looked nice in the video, who was the other guy who was falling over all the time?
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Thanks everyone for the advices. Yes I agree, my hand always behind my body which can pull my pos little to the back, from next week I'll take some lessons, the only thing is that the instructors here not that great, I can tell by comparing my instructor in st Foy and the instructors in ski Dubai, huge different in technique, but better than nothing !!

might be a third time to St foy, or maybe somewhere else, i love empty slopes and small resorts.

Thanks everyone again
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Defo buy a wobble board (about £14 from Amazon) or inflatable balance cushion and do exercises on these. I've used them for both knee and ankle injuries and they also help to build balance for skiing, especially when you have your eyes closed. Another good one is standing on it while you watch Ski Sunday and try to make turn movements in time with the racers Laughing
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If you live in Dubai
Ski Dubai is a great place to practise and get your confidence back
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