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The Arlberg Snow Report 2017/2018 (Mud Season May/June))

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Thanks for tuning in last season over 97000 views..not to shabby Happy


    The lifts have been been still for nearly 3 weeks so its about time to start thinking about the 2017/2018 season Very Happy Very Happy

    Plenty of late season snow still on the hil will melt away during June "mud season"


    I will post up stuff about developments ...


    Expect some news about Projektdias (Rendl - Kappl) over the summer (It is with the Courts in Vienna).


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    Probably for season 18/19 in Oberlech: brand new Grubenalpbahn and new track for new Rotschrofenbahn (6chair):

    http://www.agfsnow.com/default/images/referenzen/Lageplan-oberlech.pdf
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    @Langerzug, i think the summers of 2018 & 2019 will be big for lift renewal construction not just in Lech but all over the Arlberg.
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    > Probably for season 18/19 in Oberlech: brand new Grubenalpbahn and new track for new Rotschrofenbahn (6chair):
    >
    > http://www.agfsnow.com/default/images/referenzen/Lageplan-oberlech.pdf

    Looking at this .PDF in the link above it appears to me:
    Replacing the Oberlech surface lift with 6-er chair that goes higher and seems to allow access the Weibermahd lift slope area along with a new Rotschrofenbahn starting at the bottom of Weibermahd lift instead at the top next to Hasensprung loading area (where it loads now) seems indicate a very congested area with the Warth/Schrocken connector loading also at the bottom of the Weibermahd lift.
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    Just a bit of summer Info

    Heavy Traffic at the weekends on the ArlbergPass due to the Tunnel Closure.

    http://www.vol.at/starker-verkehr-am-verlaengerten-wochenende-am-arlberg-zu-erwarten/5325508
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    Interesting to read that at the end of the First World War there were moves for the Vorarlberg to join Switzerland.

    http://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/vorarlberg_referendum

    May explain some of the distrust with the neighbouring Tyrol. I think the border is at St Christoph Puzzled
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    There is not much to report this summer. A few houses being rebuilt modernised etc.

    Other than that there is a Heatwave in Austria. Approxinately 5 degees above normal & last month 90% down on rainfall.
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    The dorfbahn in Warth is being built tho. Furthermore, they are still working on the lake near the Hochalpchair. From this year they should be able to provide the warth side with artificial snow completely and on the Schröcken site the red run down in the Auenfeld. The restaurant in the top station of the Trittkopfbahn will be finished this year as well. On the webcams you could also see (the cams have been down since yesterday) some other construction sites.
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    New Trittkopf Restaurant & Egress Piste Works

    Some fotos over here

    http://www.alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=991&start=4050#p5127255
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    Last Tuesday some serious summer rainfall in the Arlberg recorded during major electric storm in the Arlberg recorded

    Im Tiroler Strengen am Arlberg schüttete es am Dienstag 42 Liter pro Quadratmeter, in Warth am Arlberg 41 Liter.
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    Makeover (Remodel) of the Nassereinbahn Base Station & InterSport shop Renewal

    http://www.alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=991&start=4050#p5127507
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    Warth Schroeken claiming 100% snow sure this season !!

    http://www.warth-schroecken.at/de/100-schneesicher
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    The Heatwave continues in Austria with temperatures up to 37C this week . Very little rain about 95% down in June & July.
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    @stanton, both June and July were wetter than average in Tirol. June by only about 1% and July 24% according to ZAMG. It's been pretty stormy at times out here. Where do you get the 95% figure from?
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    @nozawaonsen, Yep.....agreed its been very wet - its looking like its improving and warming up now though.
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    nozawaonsen wrote:
    @stanton, both June and July were wetter than average in Tirol. June by only about 1% and July 24% according to ZAMG. It's been pretty stormy at times out here. Where do you get the 95% figure from?


    You right the 95% is in Eastern Austria.

    http://www.salzburg24.at/juli-2017-war-unter-den-20-waermsten-der-messgeschichte/apa-1437389808
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    The report is clearly stating that from Arlberg to Wechsel there was 25 to 75% more rain than normal.
    From Arlberg to Wechsel can be considered as the complete Austrian Northern Alps.
    July was warm ànd extremely wet.
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    Hi I was hoping the experts here could help me out. My wife and I are looking to potentially stay in Warth in middle of January for a week's skiing. How long does it take to get over to Lech. Would you recommend it? We are not looking for crazy Apres on this trip but more great hotels to unwind in and of course great skiing.
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    @rrd3718, Not long its is basically two lifts (one uplift from Warth then the Aujenfeldje transit Gondola) You can spend all day comfortably in Lech just be careful if there is strong wind as the Auenfeldjet can close ...
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    thanks stanton ! if the lifts do close what would the alternative access route to Warth be?
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    It's more than one lift from Warth to access the Auenfeldjet over to Lech, requires 3 to get to the runs down to the link. Still easy enough to get over to. If the connecting lift shuts then it is a long road trip round as the road link between Lech and Warth is shut during the winter.
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    Indeed, from Warth it takes 4 lifts to get in Lech. 5 (the new Dorfbahn) from Warth-centre
    Warth does not have many hotels, and the more luxurious ones are not exactly cheap either. You should not expect a really cheap alternative to Lech in this category. A well appointed hotel-garni in Lech might offer more at better -overall- prices
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    thanks for the comments, massively appreciated. How long time wise would it take if we caught first lift out of Warth. Just thinking it would be nice to stay that side but only if it doesn't take more than say 30 min to get to Lech
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    @rrd3718, First 8.45am lift out of Warth and you are in Lech for 9.45am. We stay in Warth every season and love it, however it has got crazy expensive and next January we are staying in Lech to ski Warth, its cheaper in a Hotel Garni in Lech than staying in Warth....read into that what you will. Then we head around to St Anton for second week in the car.

    As above you've got to keep an eye on the weather when in Lech, its very expensive and long journey to get back to Warth if you get stuck in Lech. You can actually ski it back if you are off piste savvy, but its quite a tough route, and not one to try in bad weather.

    Warth is fantastic by the way, highly recommended, we love it, but it does seem to be jacking its prices up somewhat (as expected) last 2-3 seasons. We just thought we'd stay in Lech which is kind of ironic.
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    Some big landslides/debris flows into the Sanna (Pians, by Landeck) recently following the heavy rain:


    http://youtube.com/v/Mf8KxzPBFKc


    http://youtube.com/v/xGmclJ2DscI


    http://youtube.com/v/xGmclJ2DscI

    This is right at the start of probably the biggest rapid on the river (it's popular for rafting and kayaking). I paddled it the week before and it looks like it's changed a lot, with some sizeable new features (there was no island previously, and despite higher water no bus-eating hole at the entrance - that was further down on the right Laughing). It's now closed for boating until at least the end of the season - I assume the authorities will dig the channel out (again) over the winter.

    Before:



    After:





    Still seems utterly mental to me that the TIWAQ wanted to build a dam on this river, which is majorly affected by landslides and/or floods every single summer. Sadly they seem hell bent on killing off every last free-flowing river in Tirol, regardless of whether they generate meaningful energy or not (they get money/subsidies regardless).
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    We always feel that to get from Warth to the Saloberkopf requires a lot (too much) of traversing up and down the mountain. You almost get the impression the lifts are not very well planned there. (But probably no other solution possible)
    The village of Warth is really tiny, with not much going on.
    Main drawback in early winter is the lack of sun in Warth, being shielded by Wartherhorn and Karhorn.
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    @Langerzug, Yes its a bit of a trek and super-cold older style lifts in the shade but great off-piste between the lifts.
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    @Markymark29, You have booked in Lech? Getting wiser with age? Toofy Grin
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    i'm so torn, but think Lech as a base would be better then! thanks for all the help
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    @Langerzug, Ha, i'll be out and high up before the Bogner set get out of bed so am cool with that, too cold for them in January anyway so resort should be quiet! Great town and ski area but I'm not that fussed with the glitterati that stay there, hopefully i'll not be seeing much of them wink
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    @Markymark29, Lech is no St.Moritz or Courchevel, it is still Arlberg and thus all about serious skiing. And quiet....our landlady always says that in Lech there is no low-season....99% booked from christmas to easter.
    Where are you staying?
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    @Langerzug, http://www.stuelzis.com/startseite/


    you know it?.... looks nice enough to me!
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    @Markymark29,
    Never been inside, but know it well. Indeed it looks nice, and it has a beautiful terrace.
    It sits at the end of the Madloch-Lech route, so it is 'ski-in' when coming from Zürs.
    But also Schlegelkopf and Rüfikopf lifts are very walkable. Supermarket Filomena around the corner.
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    @Langerzug, Great.... looks ideal. Thanks for your feedback.
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    Warth Dorfbahn

    http://www.alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1945&start=375#p5128622
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    some folks maybe interested in this..


    http://youtube.com/v/6CXJBwNTvC0
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    Rendl .. Kappl

    Sorry no time time to translate

    https://kurier.at/chronik/oesterreich/pisten-gefaehrden-den-sommertourismus/280.219.103
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    @rrd3718, you could also stay in Stuben which would be cheaper than Lech
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