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dp wrote:
@the_doc, has my signature model Preacher made the 2019 catalogue? That is, where one of the skis is supplied in 2 bits Very Happy


Limited edition only wink
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Hi everyone, you'll find the new release of the 2019 Whitedot Skis lookbook below. I think those at the EOSB will find some nice little changes, thanks for all your feedback on this!


We've got a clean new look to the skis, not too many dots next year! We have a couple of new products, the "Altum" Series of twin tip, twin rocker/camber skis and our new Asymmetric Ragnarok. Spent all last season on these models so happy to answer any questions on them, especially the ASYM as its a pretty radical design.

https://issuu.com/whitedotskis/docs/whitedot-lookbook-2018-print
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@the_doc, Nice to see that the feedback about white top sheets has been take on board, saving the embarrassment of the new design being known as the “Lost 114” wink

Looking good Cool
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Scarlet wrote:
@the_doc, Nice to see that the feedback about white top sheets has been take on board, saving the embarrassment of the new design being known as the “Lost 114” wink

Looking good Cool


Thanks, that's not a bad ski name, might pop that one in the bank Wink
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Scarlet wrote:
@the_doc, Nice to see that the feedback about white top sheets has been take on board, saving the embarrassment of the new design being known as the “Lost 114” wink

+1

Just got to get rid of that white base now!
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Tight radius on those Preachers. Very Happy


Hopefully see some of these at the Oktobertest?
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Penry wrote:
Tight radius on those Preachers. Very Happy

Hopefully see some of these at the Oktobertest?

The Preachers have been unchanged since its launch ten years ago. And they'll all be the Oktobertest.
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No more 169 Preachers? Sad best be careful with my current ones I guess.

The ASYM looks interesting, though not sure I'll be skiing 190's anytime soon NehNeh

Is that a typo in the Altum 114 specs, 125 - 94 - 117?
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Daishan wrote:
No more 169 Preachers? Sad best be careful with my current ones I guess.

The ASYM looks interesting, though not sure I'll be skiing 190's anytime soon NehNeh

Is that a typo in the Altum 114 specs, 125 - 94 - 117?


Pies?
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@Dave of the Marmottes, lol, I think building a bit of muscle and improving my technique might be better for me, though a lot more work so I'll keep pies as a backup rolling eyes
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Daishan wrote:
No more 169 Preachers? Sad best be careful with my current ones I guess.

In CL yes, I think so. The 169CL isn't a huge seller so it's hard to get the production numbers to make them economically. Same thing for the other now discontinued models/lengths. Best solution for you matey is to eat more pies!

Whitedot did press a good number of 169 Preacher trads for 17/18 so we have stock of those so they'll still be available but they won't have the new topsheet.

Daishan wrote:
Is that a typo in the Altum 114 specs, 125 - 94 - 117?

Yep, it's a typo and it should read 114. That spec booklet has a number of errors in it that'll be corrected soon.

And before anyone asks the CarbonLite version of the Rag ASYM will be in 19/20 along with the Altum 104. I'm assuming that the Altum 104 will then replace the Director but that's not official.

And I'm pushing for a Altum 84 Cool
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The Asym Rag looks sweet! Love the shot of Louis on p6 too.
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
......Pies?

LOL, you beat me to it whilst I was still typing.
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clarky999 wrote:
......Love the shot of Louis on p6 too.

Well dodgy pink poles though
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One criticism I do have, is that the new range seems to be excluding those of us who are smaller and lighter, i.e. female. The 107 Director CL that I ski is gone (the trades are too heavy), as is the 169 Preacher and Preacher CL.

One thing that I liked about the Whitedot range when I first tried them out, was that the large range of sizes in most of the skis meant that it didn’t matter that I was small, there were still skis I liked. But this reduction in the short end of the ranges combined with the loss of the One/Zero One, means that I’ll no longer be recommending them to other littl’uns Confused
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R98 CL is still a damn fine ski for littlies and I suspect the Altum "Delinquent" 94.
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@Scarlet, there's still the R.98's in 168cm and the new Altum 94 (which replaces the One/Zero One) goes down to 167cm. And there's still plenty of 17/18 Preacher trads in 169cm as I mentioned in my post above. Sales of the 151 & 161 trad/CL Directors have been poor (even after the 'market' said it wanted to have a performance all mntn skis available in short lengths rolling eyes). And the 171 trad sales greatly outweigh that of the CL version.

Basically those that need a short length don't want/need the width of a Director as there's enough float from a 94/98mm ski, hence that's the route WD have taken. And unfortunately it's just not economically viable to make/keep all the lengths/constructions etc.

At the other end of the scale you'll notice that the Redeemers have gone as well. The Redeemer is a fantastic ski but again the numbers don't stack up as sales for what is considered to be an out'n'out powder ski (even though it's more than that) are pretty low, plus it's up against the more versatile new 114 and the Rags.
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@spyderjon, @Dave of the Marmottes, ooh, bait taken wink

Can’t speak for the 94 coz that’s not in the test fleet in short yet – everything else I’ve had a go on. R98 is at my limit for stiffness, so a tricky contender. 151/161 Director had already gone, no? Though I’m not counting what might be hanging around in your shop as once they run out, that’s it. I already considered the 169 Preacher too much ski. If the shortest length is now 179, then you’ve got to have a fair bit more heft than me to keep it under control, again notwithstanding what’s in your cupboard.

I can get float on a 76, but it doesn’t mean I want to wink And WD marketing doesn’t exactly push the short end as it’s mostly blokes on big skis.

Missed the missing Redeemers, though as I could legitimately use just one in a game of hide and seek, they’ve never been on my spectrum. I suspect your right in that the 114 will be more versatile, but again, with the shortest being 179, I don’t get to decide Confused
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@Scarlet, Rule 5
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@Scarlet, I've skied the R98, and would say it's at my limit too - as in I can get them to work, but it's a lot of effort. I've also skied the 'Altum' 94 at the EoSB this year, and loved it. I could get it to work easier (though not easily! But I was not in normal skiing shape, after injury recovery etc) - definitely found it softer, and really enjoyable. I'll need better fitness to properly work them all day though.

I tried the 185cm, as that's all they had at the EoSB, and I'm 1m72. In theory I should go shorter, but I really enjoyed them, and don't know if a shorter length would be quite as 'full-on fun'/deliquent like Toofy Grin I can't imagine the 167cm would be too much for you.
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@Scarlet, you're right in that there's nothing in the line-up to match/replace your Directors, but sadly I think it's just a numbers game. It's hard enough to make a profit selling any skis outside of the rental market, and even harder just in the freeride scene... I don't know the exact number of freeride skis sold under 180cm, but I can well believe it's not enough to sustain the costs unfortunately. Props to Whitedot for trying to grow that segment for so long, but I imagine it was a very easy business decision.
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