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French Speed cameras and Fines

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I hired a French car at Christmas and one of my speeding fines has just come through (the hire co tell me there are 2!) I was clocked at 95kph by a camera on the motorway at Chambery where the speed limit is 90kph. So I have just paid the 45e fine through the French Government website - very straight forward and in English!

Which begs the question, as I am driving in my own car in March and I know I have tripped one of those cameras before (there are several on the Chambery section on both sides of the road.)

Does anyone know for certain if DVLA are co-operating with the French Government and passing on UK ownership/driver details?

and before the obvious answer comes up yes I know if I don't speed I wont get fined. (I have a clean UK licence for the last 14 years, and 14 years ago it was SP30 - 39 in a 30!)
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It was supposed to come into force last May, but not heard of anyone receiving any fines yet. They can't put points on your licence, so it will remain clean.
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The AA give the details of the 'law' from May 2017
https://www.theaa.com/european-breakdown-cover/driving-in-europe/driving-offence-abroad
and the Torygraph has a scare story
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/05/british-motorists-continent-face-640-speeding-fines-saturday/
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I was flashed ( Embarassed ) twice a couple of weeks ago - once on the outward journey (28th Jan) and again on the return (4th Feb) - as of yet not heard anything - but will report back if I do!
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Thanks Dippy @Dippy, please update this thread if you do hear anything.

I have just checked on PistonHeads forum and there are several people there who were flashed in the summer but haven't heard anything....
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I was flashed coming into the Swiss boarder from France. Apparently it was a 30km limit but I was doing more like 60km whilst trying to figure out which lane to get in. I’m awaiting the fine details through the hire company.
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@Roscoe, Yep, thats my second fine I'm waiting for from Christmas - exactly same circumstances as yours!
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@boredsurfin, Laughing Laughing I said at the time that I bet it must get 100’s on a daily basis!!
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What is the actual fine?
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@Roscoe, Dont know yet, but my 95 in a 90 was a 45 Euro fine, Avis Budget charged me 70 Euro for passing my details to the Gendarmerie!
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Roscoe wrote:
I was flashed coming into the Swiss boarder from France. Apparently it was a 30km limit but I was doing more like 60km whilst trying to figure out which lane to get in. I’m awaiting the fine details through the hire company.


Same happened to me about 3/4 years ago as I was focusing on the lanes at the border. I spent all my time at the airport working out how much the fine was likely to be and when it would drop (which continued for months once I arrived home) but after much fretting and sweating I heard nothing Puzzled . I was in a hire car as well.
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Roscoe wrote:
I was flashed coming into the Swiss boarder from France. Apparently it was a 30km limit but I was doing more like 60km whilst trying to figure out which lane to get in. I’m awaiting the fine details through the hire company.


Same happened to me about 3/4 years ago as I was focusing on the lanes at the border. I spent all my time at the airport working out how much the fine was likely to be and when it would drop (which continued for months once I arrived home) but after much fretting and sweating I heard nothing Puzzled . I was in a hire car as well.


This gives me hope! Little Angel
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I'm always (well, twice!) getting done in Chambery. I paid up. On the other hand I once received 3 speeding fines for the same journey from Zurich to Engleberg, which I completely ignored. I was a bit nervous flying into Switzerland for a while...
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I'm always (well, twice!) getting done in Chambery. I paid up. On the other hand I once received 3 speeding fines for the same journey from Zurich to Engleberg, which I completely ignored. I was a bit nervous flying into Switzerland for a while...


Brave, you know the Swiss would have put you in prison!
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The Swiss just set a new world record fine...
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My previous truck was flashed iro 50 times in CH, and a couple in France (CH upto Aug'17, but anything in Fr probably a few years ago), nothing ever came through. That truck went to the scrappers in November.

The new truck almost immediately got flashed approaching the CH/Fr border on the Fr side, thought I was bound to hear something, but nothing yet.

It might be a question of degree, ie they've never been 'silly speeds' just a bit over?
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@midgetbiker, I think I was doing around 60km and its a 30km zone so assume that's quite a lot over.

With stories of some tickets never coming through, maybe this is not a speed camera that is "flashing" but a recognition camera? To take a data stamp of when a certain vehicle entered Switzerland??
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@Roscoe, That one at Bardonnex (Swiss border) is definitely a speed camera.
It's because people coming hooning down the hill from Annecy at 110, or accelerating up the slip road from Cham at 90+.
It catches soooo many people.
When it was first installed about 8 years ago it was flashing so much I thought it was a strobe.
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@WindOfChange, Oh well, all hope gone! Laughing
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@Roscoe, That one at Bardonnex (Swiss border) is definitely a speed camera.
It's because people coming hooning down the hill from Annecy at 110, or accelerating up the slip road from Cham at 90+.
It catches soooo many people.
When it was first installed about 8 years ago it was flashing so much I thought it was a strobe.


I think they are talking about the one that is on the left of the road, just before the last Km/h sign. The speed limit here is pretty low and it's definitely a speed camera.

I use a Tomtom religiously when driving in France, as they bleep when you approach a speed camera location and show if you are going too fast for the limit. Since doing so, I have avoided getting any more fines.
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@boredsurfin, I was flashed twice on the way back from the PSB around Chambery in early December.

Not heard anything since.

I’d actually forgotten about it until I read this thread wink
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@Roscoe, Got my Geneva border fine today from December 26th - €90 Sad

added to the €45 at Chambery that was an expensive trip to the airport!

@Gary Fat Fingers, sounds promising....


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@boredsurfin, I'll expect something similar in about 6 weeks then! Sad
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@boredsurfin, I'll expect something similar in about 6 weeks then! Sad


Its quite easy to pay on line with a credit card - the site is in English! The letter comes with a standing order form - cheeky beggars!
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@boredsurfin, Was you in your own car? Mine was in a hire car so I'm hoping the hire company deal with it and just charge my card.
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I got flashed in France at end of June last year (UK car) and haven't heard anything since.
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@boredsurfin, Was you in your own car? Mine was in a hire car so I'm hoping the hire company deal with it and just charge my card.


Got flashed in France in a hire car in July. €45 fine came through in November which I had to pay myself via the Government website. Then 2 weeks ago I got a €35 charge from the hire company for passing my details on which they automatically took off my card.
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@croiz, thanks! I’ll know what to expect.
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@Roscoe, yep hire car, got charged €70 by Avis Budget as an admin fee (for the two fines) which they charged to my card I guess its 35 per fine! Then 2 separate letters from French Government (one for each fine)to pay by various methods - the website is easiest I think.


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@boredsurfin, thanks
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Just returned from alps and been flashed twice (Swiss and France) in my own GB car and wondering if I am likely to receive fines in the post?

First time. 130kph in 120kph speed zone on Swiss motorway near Lausanne (about a week ago)
Second time: 90kph in what I think was 70kph in France approaching Besancon from the south (car dashboard was indicating speed limit of 90kph)

Thanks
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Second time: 90kph in what I think was 70kph in France approaching Besancon from the south (car dashboard was indicating speed limit of 90kph)

You sure this wasn't doing 90 in an 80 zone ?
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@rjs, don’t know to be honest. The speed limit changes a lot on that stretch of the journey. The car’s speed limit detection system also thought it was 90 and I had cruise control set to that exact speed.

Have all 90kph zones been converted to 80kph regardless of road signs?
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@Ozboy, only single lane ones, and those without a central reservation.
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@Ozboy, I’d work on the presumption that you will.

A chum got collared by the UK police for a Swiss fine. I believe there’s a UK-French info sharing agreement.

The Lausanne road has I believe very narrow margins ? 4kph?

I know the Besancon road and it could easily be 70kph limit.
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Still 90kmh here on those 3 lane roads, but only on the 2 lane side
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The French fine will be peanuts, 40 euro or something, no points.
The Swiss one might sting a bit
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Never drive in Switzerland.

They hate the car.

Speeding fines, minor or major, are insane.

Jail is not uncommon.
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@Jonny996, 90 Euro on the French border see my post above
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@boredsurfin, how time dilutes the pain Happy, cant remember it being as high as 90euro (same bloody camera as you), nice chaps I was skiing with all chipped in & split the cost
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