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Snow and avalanche 2017/18

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It may be late season but the non stop poor weather is still bringing a lot of fresh snow at altitude to the Alps. There was a fatal avalanche in Saas Fee on Sunday on the Hohbalmgletscher at 4100 meters. A skier was buried by a large slide. Members of the skier's group along with eyewitnesses recovered the skier but it was too late. Victim was local to the area, aged 23.

https://www.policevalais.ch/communiques-pour-les-medias/saas-fee-avalanche-1-personne-decedee/
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Might be time to open a 2018 / 2019 thread on this one.

See 9 climbers died this week at 11k feet in a mad snowstorm on Mt Gurja in Nepal.


http://youtube.com/v/_7Scy04j_lU
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@Whitegold, @stanton, 2018-19 thread here https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=3319294&highlight=avalanche#3319294
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Altausee / Loser has opened again after huge snowfalls. Some great photos in this thread. Particularly like the one where you van just see the restaurant but what a stunning set of photos

https://www.alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=60932
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Frosty the Snowman wrote:
Altausee / Loser has opened again after huge snowfalls. Some great photos in this thread. Particularly like the one where you van just see the restaurant but what a stunning set of photos

https://www.alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=60932


Good set of photos.

Surprised to see the lakes still unfrozen in deepest January midwinter.
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^ Folks were (very) lucky.
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Interesting reading.

https://avalanche.state.co.us/caic/acc/acc_report.php?acc_id=685&accfm=inv
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jbob wrote:
Interesting reading.

https://avalanche.state.co.us/caic/acc/acc_report.php?acc_id=685&accfm=inv

Thanks for posting. Slope looks fairly innocuous. Worrying that a group should have got caught in such a way.

Interesting also that one airbag wasn't deployed and another failed to deploy.
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@jbob, Cheers for posting. I see the VDA report is available for last season but I've not worked out the link yet.
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Not sure if this is the correct place to post this, and probably many of you already know it anyway but it may be of interest to other piste-only skiers....

https://hotspot-der-alpen.soelden.com/en/soelden-ski-area-safety-measures/
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Good article on decision making in the back / side country about how to counter act pre-made conceptions etc..

https://www.powder.com/stories/your-heart-and-brain-are-working-against-you-in-avalanche-terrain/?fbclid=IwAR26yEj-Y9Ym4FFLVlrTC-T9DBnRwqkIkLhSYrB1Hg8DBFj-overTQaiz1M#UqZq26cX7ILkOusM.01
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Very sketchy couple of days in the French alps, with 4/5 and 5/5 being posted for tomorrow.
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I really do hope people heed the warnings and take it easy for a couple of days, at least.
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Reute , Austria

Sunday 3rd FEb

11 People swept away in a slide… All were able to free themselves. ONe was completely buried.


Slide rolled across a Ski Piste

https://www.tt.com/panorama/unfall/15291944/elf-personen-unter-lawine-in-berwang-verschuettet
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holidayloverxx wrote:
@Whitegold, @stanton, 2018-19 thread here https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=3319294&highlight=avalanche#3319294

Perhaps the mods would care to unsticky this old thread and sticky the 2018/19 one instead?
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Serfaus

https://www.tt.com/panorama/gesellschaft/15440233/lawine-ging-auf-piste-in-serfaus-ab-keine-verschuetteten
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Not sure where but somewhere in Austria (edit - A ridge of snow near the village of St Anton am Arlberg)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-47633159/off-piste-skiers-swallowed-by-austria-avalanche

I don't ski off piste but do read a few threads here. I thought you ski one at a time if its risky, why are there so many going at once?


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I don't ski off piste but do read a few threads here. I thought you ski one at a time if its risky, why are there so many going at once?


They didn't get the memo.
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Agreed re memo ! ... chaos and madness.
Looked like Stuben maybe ...
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Edited for location, apparently:

"A ridge of snow near the village of St Anton am Arlberg"

The first part seems bleedingly obvious.
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https://www.planetski.eu/news/12248

That looks bloody steep!
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bit late...

https://www.stol.it/artikel/chronik/lawine-dringt-bis-ins-dorfzentrum-von-martell-vor?fbclid=IwAR3xRXNR-arK4DfLsHbTXY7vJUe9uION5kTNWD_1XdY95AdXDIwE80LrayE
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clarky999 wrote:
davidof wrote:
Weathercam wrote:
@davidof, looking at the story in the Dauphine http://www.ledauphine.com/isere-sud/2017/12/03/trois-randonneurs-portes-disparus-en-chartreuse-grand-som-dent-crolles they give no real clue as to who the ski tourers were / experience etc

As we know some of the "locals" do not exactly think about security hence the big push by CAF down in this part of the world last season after the tragedies of the early 2015/2016 season down here.


The great majority of victims are experienced skiers or ski tourers, local to the mountains, including guides and ski instructors.


I skied with a guy from Flaine yesterday who told me around 35% of the avalanche incidents in that area involve very experienced people, in particular mountain rescue workers out in their free time. I don't know how true that is, but it makes sense that they're the sort most likely to be 'pushing it'.

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The Bergrettung here are pushing out a big campaign to always call in (140) if you set off an avalanche. You won't be in trouble; rather, you'll save the Bergrettung the expense of sending out a team to check that no-one is buried.

It should be noted that mountain rescue efforts in Austria are NOT covered by the state, so anyone skiing or hiking in the Austrian Alps should make sure they are insured in the event anything happens.

I've always used the Alpenverein in the past for this, but I've just found out that the Bergrettung have their own insurance policy too. €28/year = up to €25k rescue costs anywhere in the world, and the money goes to the Bergrettung to finance training etc.

https://en.bergrettung.tirol/php/furtherer_form.php


THANKS THIS IS VERY USEFUL INFO.
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Nasty slide in Turkey.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/05/dozens-of-rescue-workers-killed-in-turkish-avalanche

Quote:

At least 23 rescue workers have been killed on a mountain road in eastern Turkey after they were hit by an avalanche while searching for two people missing in an earlier snowslide.

Authorities said 300 emergency service workers were called to the road near the mountain-surrounded town of Bahçesaray in Van province, which borders Iran, after the first avalanche struck late on Tuesday, killing five people. Around midday on Wednesday, the team was struck by the second avalanche.

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Could this thread be "unstickied" please?
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@sugarmoma666, done. I'll have a quick scan to see if antyhing else need changing
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@nbt, thanks.
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