Poster: A snowHead
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Doesn't much matter if Ryanair has cancelled flights today as it seems like nobody is going anywhere much. Check-in systems have crashed worldwide. Multiple airlines and airports affected.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Re the age of pilots - I always console myself with the view that the pilot doesnt want to die any more than I do and inexperience is no different in a 19 year old than it is in a 29 year old so age per se is not the key indicator for competence in a new pilot.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Re the age of pilots - I always console myself with the view that the pilot doesnt want to die any more than I do and inexperience is no different in a 19 year old than it is in a 29 year old so age per se is not the key indicator for competence in a new pilot. |
Mmm, not buying that one. Ten more years flying locos= 000s more hours, probably at least a thousand more sectors (planning, briefing, TOs and landings.) Probably a captain. Nineteen: may have landed a jet by hand 10-20 times ever.
Still be avoiding them for the foreseeable.
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@Charliegolf, the point was that age is irrelevant, where flying hours is not. Someone who trains as a pilot at 32 with no previous experience and 500 hours flying time in a Cessna is not better than someone of 21 with 3000 hours in an A320.
If the whole of the industry was to require 3500 hours minimum flying time, 2000 of them with an established airline (as Ryanair do - see http://careers.ryanair.com/pilots-requirements/ ) and with 800 hours in command, then no new pilots would ever be recruited. It's the same old problem - in order to get the job you need experience, but in order to get the experience you need the job. Ryanair are getting pilots from somewhere, clearly - so there is some benefit to those pilots in taking the job. Maybe the shorter average time to Captain counter-balances any perceived problems with conditions in the meantime? Is it a 5-year investment to allow them to move on to better things? Or just a way to pay the bills now and gain the hours quickly rather than getting 4000 per year in a smaller operation?
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The airline industry is full of cadets that come and sit in the right hand seat having done 1 live sortie with no passengers on which they will have done 6 circuits. On the first flights with passengers there will also be another pilot in the cockpit in case the newbie goes wibble. Its the same with BA as Easy as Ryan. There are very few free cadetships now BA tend to recruit from the locos as the draw of long haul is still glamorous to some so you are more likely to see a keen youngster who has arranged a loan, worked blinkin hard to get where he is on a loco. But doesn't make it any less safe because there is a harp on the tail.
The pilot world has many old timers who remember the good old days of state supported airlines and rue being made to work a bit harder. But we the customer has benefitted - do we as skiers really want to go back to the days of the 70s and 80s paying BA a fortune or going on a charter from Gatwick (or Manchester with a £35 surcharge if you were lucky)? Crikey my flights this year are less than that surcharge one way.
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Perhaps I was a bit flippant in discussing age, as in how old, when I talked about 'children'.
@ousekjarr, to that extent, it was and is hours I'm referring to. And the 3500 hours is only for a DE captain, so not within my criticism. I'd be much happier with a FO with some sectors under his/her belt.
@chocksaway, my worry (which you haven't allayed) is that in Ryanair's predicament, they may have to 'ease' their own requirements, hence the children in the LHS remark.
CG
Edit: I'm from a rotary background- it should be RHS, of course!
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@Alastair Pink, interesting article, thanks. Confirms my gut feeling of never having done or wanting to book with Ryanair.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Alastair Pink, interesting article, thanks. Confirms my gut feeling of never having done or wanting to book with Ryanair. |
I'm not a fan either, however if you like Provence (as we do) Ryanair are the only option from Edinburgh to Marseille.
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The times for my Dec flight have now been changed 3 times! Have to wonder quite what that means in terms of their supposedly having the situation re staff under control!
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@albob, The first batch of cancellations was announced on 15th September with the majority not kicking in until October. Ryanair's year-end is 30 September, so using some very rough calculations, they would have cancelled 2% of their flights for just two weeks out of 26. The impact in H1 2017 was always going to be minimal. At worst, they will have lost 0.15% of revenues during H1 due to the cancellations.
I don't imagine the impact to profit will be huge in H2, although growth will be the main issue for them IMO.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Feb half term to Toulouse time change saw the title......that got my pulse going.
Luckily only 5 minutes for now.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I hope they don't change mine as we connect with another airline in stanstead,
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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It's funny – I said on page 1 of this thread that I'd definitely be put off using them again. But we had such a smooth, hassle-free flight with them a couple of weeks back (including their new automated check-in/bag drop process – can't ever remember getting through that stage at MAN so quickly, even though the flight was totally full and by no means their only one around that time) that it was easy to forget the several weeks of cancellation worries beforehand! Hope everyone's upcoming flights go ahead without any further disruption.
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They are not the only ones who reschedule. Had Easyjet move my return from Innsbruck to more than an hour later. Luckily later rather than earlier so might get a lay in on the last day!
But RA seem to have made pissing people off into an art form.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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scheduled flights change slots all the time. My flight for March with BA has moved, but I would not be surprised to see it get moved again.
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