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Recommended readings about skiing history/ancient skiing

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Hi,

I'd like to know if you've got any recommended books/research papers I should check about skiing/ski use in ancient times.

So far I'm reading "The Culture and Sport of Skiing: From Antiquity to World War II" and it seems good, however since I am not that interested in modern times I am wondering how worth it may be to look for a copy of 1980's work "Nine thousand years of skis: Norwegian wood to French plastic" or even look at other titles I'm completely unaware of.

Thank you

Alfredo
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How about "Two Planks and a Passion" by Roland Huntford.
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rjs wrote:
How about "Two Planks and a Passion" by Roland Huntford.


Will check it, thank you
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/story-ski-ing-New-Alpine-library/dp/B0000CICVP/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1505650478&sr=8-2&keywords=lunn+skiing&tag=amz07b-21
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There aren't any books about skiing in ancient times because it didn't really exist, apart from some enquisative Skandi farmers. One book I can definitely recommend is Killing Dragons, the tale of a bunch of marvellously eccentric Victorian Brits schlepping up the alps armed with nothing more than stout boots, blind optimism and a packed lunch.
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Probably not what you're looking for based on wanting to know about skiing in ancient history but I found this a good read;

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wild-Snow-American-Alpine-Book/dp/0930410815?tag=amz07b-21
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Dr John wrote:
There aren't any books about skiing in ancient times because it didn't really exist, apart from some enquisative Skandi farmers.


Actually for many years it's been taken for granted that the earliest people to use skis were in Scandinavia. However recent research (acknowledged by international historians of early skiing including Scandinavian historians too) shows that the oldest evidence of the use of skis may well be in the Altay region of what is now China!
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@Alastair Pink, I don't doubt it. Sounds interesting, perhaps you should write a book...
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Dr John wrote:
@Alastair Pink, I don't doubt it. Sounds interesting, perhaps you should write a book...


Some books about skiing in the Altay region of China have already been written, e.g the Report on the 2015 International Ancient Skiing Cultural Forum (which was held in Altay).

Here's a bit of background to the efforts of the Chinese Government to promote awareness of the role of the Altay region in the history of skiing. It's interesting to note that much of this is driven by the ethnic Han Chinese majority who dominate the Chinese Government, whilst as is mentioned in the article, quote: The ethnic Han “never used these boards, yet they are claiming an attachment to it,” said a traditional skier who flies the flag of Kazakhstan over his family’s log home in Khom, the village that shares its name with the river that runs through this valley. “Maybe it’s a national pride thing, but in reality it’s our ancestors that were doing it.”
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As regards more modern skiing history, another book is The Story of Modern Skiing by John Fry
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Thank you all for your suggestions.

Dr John wrote:
There aren't any books about skiing in ancient times because it didn't really exist, apart from some enquisative Skandi farmers. One book I can definitely recommend is Killing Dragons, the tale of a bunch of marvellously eccentric Victorian Brits schlepping up the alps armed with nothing more than stout boots, blind optimism and a packed lunch.
I understand that, it was more necessity than entertainment, hence intended skiing/ski use, ancient stuff and skis.
I did read Killing Dragons and completely agree, was a worthwhile and interesting read.

bigtuboflard wrote:
Probably not what you're looking for based on wanting to know about skiing in ancient history but I found this a good read;

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wild-Snow-American-Alpine-Book/dp/0930410815?tag=amz07b-21

Will check it, thank you Smile

Alastair Pink wrote:
Dr John wrote:
There aren't any books about skiing in ancient times because it didn't really exist, apart from some enquisative Skandi farmers.


Actually for many years it's been taken for granted that the earliest people to use skis were in Scandinavia. However recent research (acknowledged by international historians of early skiing including Scandinavian historians too) shows that the oldest evidence of the use of skis may well be in the Altay region of what is now China!

Thank you for the suggestion, did check that and apparently some of the text is online too http://skiing.sport.org.cn/headpage/orginfo/2014-09-29/448840.html (english version)

pam w wrote:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/story-ski-ing-New-Alpine-library/dp/B0000CICVP/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1505650478&sr=8-2&keywords=lunn+skiing&tag=amz07b-21


Will check it, thank you Smile
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I've checked all your suggestions and indeed found awesome reads in them.

I however couldn't find find a copy of 1980's work "Nine thousand years of skis: Norwegian wood to French plastic" (author Ted Bays) in local libraries but only in out of country sellers.
Did anybody read/have a look at this book and could comment if it's worth buying and keeping it in one's own bookshelf?

Also, any other reading suggestions are welcome Smile

Thank you
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@alfredo, One excellent book I didn't mention is Die Anfänge des alpinen Skirennsports - The Golden Age of Alpine Skiing by Max D. Amstutz ISBN 978-3-909111-79-4. Each page has both German and English translation.
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Its not about skiing per se, but I really enjoyed reading 'Killing Dragons: The Conquest of the Alps' by Fergus Fleming, which is about the early explorers who started climbing in the alps through the 18th and 19th centuries. Under a tenner on Kindle.
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