 Poster: A snowHead
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I'll be in La Rosiere next February with my 13 year old daughter, and friends who have a son the same age. Both kids passed ESF gold star last winter, so they are decent skiers but still with plenty to learn. We'd like them to continue with lessons, and they enjoy skiing together and with other kids, so we're looking for options that maximise fun and improve their all-mountain skiing. Neither is interested in racing, and they (particularly the boy) enjoy a lap or two through the park but don't want to be there all day.
ESF have been fine for us so far, but the option beyond gold star looks to be race-focused, which I'm sure is good for technique but not really what either of them wants. I'm also a little concerned that they may be the only english kids in a race group (we are going the week of 17 Feb). I know there's an Evo2 in La Ros, but we've no experience of Evo2 and their website is very short on actual information.
So I'm looking for suggestions - a few private sessions with an instructor perhaps (recommendations please) or something else - info on advanced group lessons, that sort of thing.
Thanks 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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See if any ski school does Freeride club or something similar?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@mgrolf, Evo2 have teenage freeride groups per their French website.
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The race groups in our local ESF (Argentiere), aren't particularly race-obsessed. In 6 days ours will typically do one or two half days on gates (which, although might not initially appeal, basically means a dedicated piste where you can go as fast as possible if its GS or SG, so can be a lot of fun particularly with other kids involved). There's also a half day of actual races. The remaining 4.5 days are spent skiing everything on the mountain at a relatively high level - powder, bumps, steeps, etc. and usually trying to get very early or late runs in so they can ski flat out on empty pistes. They even did biathlon with laser rifles last year. In short, if you haven't spoken to the ski school already, its worth checking what ESF La Ros actually does with its race classes; ours are little different to a freeride class.
Nationality-wise, our race classes are very international, but that also fits mix of clientele in the resort. The good local kids are in the ski club, not ESF.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@mgrolf why can't you and the other parents just ski with them? Why do you want them to continue with lessons? What do you want them to learn that they haven't already (especially given they aren't going to race)?
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@Layne, gold star isn't particularly advanced is it?
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@under a new name, thanks, I'd not found the right bit of the Evo2 website. And I agree that gold star isn't really that advanced, I'd say it's competent but with so much more to learn.
@Layne, I like to delude myself and think I'm still better than my daughter. What I definitely am, is good enough to know I can't teach her, either technically or about mountain safety. I'm acutely aware that I am by no means an expert skiier. I'm still learning myself, and I want her to learn too, so we can continue to develop our skiing and ski together as she gets older, doing stuff that we both enjoy (and this is a shared view, not just me as a parent pushing her). Also, she does stuff in lessons that I can't (or won't) do - last time I followed her and an instructor through some trees, I nearly went headfirst into one - and she loves this kind of stuff. The same goes for the other family (and one of them is a boarder  ).
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| under a new name wrote: |
| @Layne, gold star isn't particularly advanced is it? |
I had no idea before you asked though given it's the top level I assumed it was fairly advanced. Googling a bit I read on La Tania ESF:
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To be able to ski without stopping on long and steep slopes, on all types of snow whilst respecting the rules of the line of skiers. |
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I'd recommend evo 2 freeride daughter did it a few years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it. Remember to hire skis suitable though one boy turned up on race skis and had a rubbish week.
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@Layne, yeah, not super advanced at all.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Probably more advanced than most adults on skis I see in resort. 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@francium., titter! - probably
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| mgrolf wrote: |
| @Layne, I like to delude myself and think I'm still better than my daughter. What I definitely am, is good enough to know I can't teach her, either technically or about mountain safety. I'm acutely aware that I am by no means an expert skiier. I'm still learning myself, and I want her to learn too, so we can continue to develop our skiing and ski together as she gets older, doing stuff that we both enjoy (and this is a shared view, not just me as a parent pushing her). Also, she does stuff in lessons that I can't (or won't) do - last time I followed her and an instructor through some trees, I nearly went headfirst into one - and she loves this kind of stuff. The same goes for the other family (and one of them is a boarder ). |
Always difficult parents discussing with others how to manage their children. I was just coming at it from a different angle as you may not have considered that option or made assumptions. I'm not here to have a dig at your choices - merely to open up the choices.
Our children took swimming lessons but neither wanted to do it competitively so it got to a point where they could do all the strokes, dive in, swim underwater, etc. competently and with confidence - and we ran out of grades. So that was it. Now we just swim at the pool, lake, sea and they can do as they wish. They are better swimmers than me so quite often I will be just supervising, reigning them in or simply admiring the little bug gers ability.
Of course, we don't do everything with them and there are occasions when it makes sense for them to join a group practice, course, whatever. But it's fun to do what you can and I think children love doing stuff with their parents. Food for thought... or not... depending  
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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@francium., 
And thanks for the recommendation about Evo2 freeride. It's always good to hear personal experience.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Layne,  I thought (!) I was agreeing with you, agreeing with me that gold star isn't terrinly advanced and that there would be much potential for more learning.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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