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if only ........

https://www.facebook.com/ligetyted/videos/10154968724593440/


Sorry only a facebook link , cant find it on Youtube.
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He makes it look deceptively easy. It takes real guts and faith (and sharp edges), to allow your skis to get so far away from your hips....it's a great example of "Long Leg / Short Leg".
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Like all masters of their craft , looks effortless.
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@hawkwind, nice!
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@hawkwind, impressive and as you've said, "if only".....

At least you've given us all something to aspire to Very Happy

Thanks for sharing.


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God that's beautiful.
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Hurtle wrote:
God that's beautiful.


Indeed and a little hypnotic.
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The most dangerous development in Ski Technology.

More Piste accidents (some fatal) have been caused by Carving.

Stop the Brutal Grooming
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@stanton, it may have escaped your attention that he's a racer, not an ordinary piste skier, you blithering moron.
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Now there's a good word... "blithering" ...and perfectly used.
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LOL... haven't heard that used in a long while Razz
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@hawkwind, good find Smile
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@Hurtle, Laughing
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he not just "a racer" - He's Ted Ligety - two time olympic champion, 5x world champion with over 50 podiums in world cup events. The man can ski.

I like to think that if I had all the training he has had, the sponsorship, the time on the snow, the technical advice and the latest gear that I might be able to post videos that don't get used in "top 10 best ski fails",
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And there was I tuning into this thread thinking I would find a nice big slab of roast beef or pork.
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@Hurtle, may have also escaped his attention that it's a completely empty piste and the chances of hitting another skier on an empty piste are statistically quite low
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@dp, Laughing
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Pfft... Ye call THAT carving? Ted Ligety? Ted Skid-turny more like!


Lock, Stock and Two Alpine Snowboards (Russian Extreme Slalom) from DoctorFilm
http://vimeo.com/60497535

FFwd to 1:20 to avoid usual snow video nonsense.
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stanton wrote:
The most dangerous development in Ski Technology.

More Piste accidents (some fatal) have been caused by Carving.

Stop the Brutal Grooming


As much as it feels like eating someone else's vomit, I agree with Stanton to a point on this one, I do like carving but I recognise that there are significantly higher risks of collision with the technique.
Traditional skiing tends to be short turns in the fall line or slow and wide traverses. Carving involves high speed traverses almost 90' to the fall line with the risk of almost head on collisions between two skiers carving out of sync. The whole point of carving is that it is a very efficient turn that loses little of the skiers speed.
I normally avoid getting into a good carving routine unless the piste is virtually deserted
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@tangowaggon, to some extent that is true of course but I still feel more threatened by people who ski too fast on firm pistes without committing to finding an edge properly but instead bank on belting down to where the piste flattens out and their limited skills and excess confidence will allow them to stop.
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tangowaggon wrote:
... I do like carving but I recognise that there are significantly higher risks of collision with the technique.
Traditional skiing tends to be short turns in the fall line or slow and wide traverses. Carving involves high speed traverses almost 90' to the fall line with the risk of almost head on collisions between two skiers carving out of sync. The whole point of carving is that it is a very efficient turn that loses little of the skiers speed.
I normally avoid getting into a good carving routine unless the piste is virtually deserted
I see relatively few people carving clean turns, certainly on anything steeper than an easy blue piste. The problem with skiers who may cause collisions because they are skiing too fast is one of a lack of personal responsibility not an absence (or acquisition) of a particular skill. It has nothing to do with them being on race-inspired carving skis, or fat skis or rockered skis, etc. The skiers who frighten me the most are the ones straightlining the slope, then throwing in a sudden pivoted turn to change direction and possibly check their speed.
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... I still feel more threatened by people who ski too fast on firm pistes without committing to finding an edge properly but instead bank on belting down to where the piste flattens out and their limited skills and excess confidence will allow them to stop.
Exactly the situation which led to me being airlifted to hospital last December. An out of control punter unable to control his speed on a firm piste was the problem, not the junior racers who were carving clean turns and skiing much quicker but were skilled (and respectful) enough to not be a danger to other slope users.
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The skiers who frighten me the most are the ones straightlining the slope, then throwing in a sudden pivoted turn to change direction and possibly check their speed.


Me too. My 2 last days up the Grands Montets I felt they should have "done something" - flat, smooth hard pack/ice (in places literally like an ice rink) and lots of people with no clue. I gave up for my own self preservation (off piste without going up glacier was refrozen melt).
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I like to carve wide turns on my board, often putting a surfing-style "climb and drop" halfway across the face and before my heelside turn I sometimes kill a bit of speed by turning uphill. Of course, on a board you have a clear view uphill every other turn and I only use the piste like this when it's clear. However, in January I did end up in hospital after a concussion which I will never know the cause of. I had a blackout from 200m above the lift until being stood near the lift thinking "what just happened"? A bit of edge damage on my new board suggests someone hit me but they would have had to been straightlining very fast for me not to have seen them. It's also possible I just wiped out and hadn't noticed the damage.
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Me too. My 2 last days up the Grands Montets I felt they should have "done something" - flat, smooth hard pack/ice (in places literally like an ice rink) and lots of people with no clue. I gave up for my own self preservation (off piste without going up glacier was refrozen melt).


I've seen some of the worst offences from people (by which I mean young men, natch) demonstrating a worrying overestimation of their own ability (too bad to know how bad they are) on the red down to Argentiere from GM
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Hmmm, @jedster, yes, that too. I try and stay off piste when descending, when possible.
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@jedster, That run scares me. 4pm onwards every day you're running the gauntlet.
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@dp, tbh any time of the day you can get caught.
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@under a new name, I agree that all times of day are potentially dangerous... just 4pm onwards is sort of, guaranteed dangerous. Like I don't think you can get from top to bottom after 4pm without seeing one or several idiots out of control yet firmly believing they're skiing properly
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Bring back the 'Wedel' !
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@dp, i just think it's worse!
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tangowaggon wrote:
stanton wrote:
The most dangerous development in Ski Technology.

More Piste accidents (some fatal) have been caused by Carving.

Stop the Brutal Grooming


As much as it feels like eating someone else's vomit, I agree with Stanton to a point on this one, I do like carving but I recognise that there are significantly higher risks of collision with the technique.
Traditional skiing tends to be short turns in the fall line or slow and wide traverses. Carving involves high speed traverses almost 90' to the fall line with the risk of almost head on collisions between two skiers carving out of sync. The whole point of carving is that it is a very efficient turn that loses little of the skiers speed.
I normally avoid getting into a good carving routine unless the piste is virtually deserted


I have to agree with Ginge here but only because on his first outing on his new skis he found the edges a little too well and whilst I stood off the side of the piste waiting for him he caught an edge and I was a pubic hair away from being Tango'd by 6ft something out of control tangerine shouting sshhhiiiitttttttt!! Toofy Grin
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jedster wrote:
@tangowaggon, to some extent that is true of course but I still feel more threatened by people who ski too fast on firm pistes without committing to finding an edge properly but instead bank on belting down to where the piste flattens out and their limited skills and excess confidence will allow them to stop.


I'm with you here!! I ski fast but never see the enjoyment in straight lining it!
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jedster wrote:
@tangowaggon, to some extent that is true of course but I still feel more threatened by people who ski too fast on firm pistes without committing to finding an edge properly but instead bank on belting down to where the piste flattens out and their limited skills and excess confidence will allow them to stop.


I'm with you here!! I ski fast but never see the enjoyment in straight lining it!


We all know someone who only does this. Happy

PS getting some new Gillette carvers for next year. 12m rad..... Ms Pelligrini watch out Happy
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@GlasgowCyclops, MR GRRUUUUUUUUU Razz
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albob wrote:
Bring back the 'Wedel' !
Hansi Hinterseer vs. Ted Ligety. Interesting idea.
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Laughing Laughing Laughing
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I'm going to miss the BB banter next season, I need to forget about finishing my house and start putting money aside for the psb, gnarbug, sopib and eosb snowHead
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tangowaggon wrote:
I'm going to miss the BB banter next season, I need to forget about finishing my house and start putting money aside for the psb, gnarbug, sopib and eosb snowHead


only EOSB for me
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rob@rar wrote:
......I see relatively few people carving clean turns, certainly on anything steeper than an easy blue piste. ....


Next season I am off to easiski at LDA to tidy up my skiing on steep slopes. I am with the concern on this thread about flat-lining skiers out of control. There were some around even on the blue Signal run at LDA last season. That's a delightful, wide open run - lots of room for all to do anything under control. But you can certainly build up speed, and the odd flat-liner kept me wary - and if someone as competent as you can get caught, even the most wary of us is at risk.
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