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Recovery time for Meniscal tear and grade 2 Peroneal tear

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Hi All,

I had a one sided argument with a T-bar in early March. I've had 8 sessions of physio and the last one is at the end of this week. Despite massage, electrotherapy, accupuncture, stretches and shifting half a stone, I'm not recovering as quickly as I thought I would.

Any advice on recovery time would be very much appreciated.
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Sorry to hear that.
No expertise at all on your injuries, lots on not recovering half as fast as I thought re ligament injuries (end of March) & general bashed around knees (and related attached bits). The poor delicate little dears are terribly important parts of so much that we do everyday, and take a good load through them - and, boy, do they and every nerve, muscle, bone and tendon within half a mile let you know it Crying or Very sad
We're all different and heal at different rates, especially as we age. And sometimes we do really well to start and then it takes an age to get that last few %s back.
I can only say take the advice and assessments of your physios and doctors, ask them questions such as where they think you are and how well you are doing, what the future timescale is, etc. Don't overdo it and, hopefully, it'll get there eventually. (I presume it's a self-healing meniscal tear and a tendon rupture, and that no surgery is advised?)
All the best Smile
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Thank you @Grizzler - Physio advised MRI, but that would have meant insurance co. suspending treatment, so carried on, but pain has only been reduced by 30%

Trying to keep my chin up, but waving Tubaski goodbye as he skips out the door clutching skis and taxiing OffspringofTubaski to the lovely Richard at Snowbility, is almost reducing me to breaking point! Laughing
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@Bride of Tubaski, bad luck, damn that T bar! +1 for post by @Grizzler

You may have already seen this related thread? It includes insights and advice from snowHeads who had similar knee injuries.
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=127193#3068137

In my case, it was only after MRI scan that consultant gave me a clearer diagnosis and recommended arthroscopy, having tried physio etc for several months. You seem to have a very clear diagnosis without an MRI. Maybe there are snowHead experts who could share their knowledge and comment on this?

Wishing you a fast recovery Smile
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@intermediate, Thank you Madeye-Smiley just had a look at the thread, really helpful. I agree with you about the clarity of diagnosis. With hindsight, may be I should have elected to suspend treatment in favour of MRI, but my focus was on getting the pain down and strengthening, sigh. Neutral
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@Bride of Tubaski, Trying the least invasive approach first seems good sense to me. Sometimes it will give enough improvement to continue your activities.
I had a long term problem with right knee meniscus. I had specialist physio treatment, did recommended exercises and avoided things that aggravated it. It eventually, after several months, became manageable.
My left knee injury was more sudden. After 3 treatment sessions, the same physio concluded it was not going to be resolved easily and recommended referral for MRI scan. That confirmed enough damage to justify arthroscopy. Unclear whether that has solved the problem but my view is that I'll delay a complete knee replacement as long as possible.

Good luck again. Smile
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UPDATE: Insurance company have given me another 5 physio sessions. Let's see how that goes.... Confused
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Sorry if it's a daft question, but you seem quite focussed on insurance co & physio: is there any input from a GP and possibility at least of a knee specialist review? Ditto an NHS physio? I have been using private physio and sports injury therapists, but my GP practice also does a self-refer to local NHS physio services, which is free, and they seem to know enough about knees to do basic checks, tests, prescribe some exercises/stretches etc.
Maybe you could do with another pair of eyes or specialist opinion at this post-injury time?
Fingers crossed either way.
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You could always look at doing the MRI privately ... In the Uk it appears with a little shopping around you can get one for circa £200. Then if it requires arthroscopy go to your gp/insurance company with it? I wish i'd done that 4 months ago rather than waiting.
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@Bride of Tubaski My experience: after ski crash (goofing around in park) my knee went swollen for 10 days and was painful- i was limping but i could ski straight after trauma and later cycle but not run. @ home i had Physio twice, then had 3 months rest but it didn't help, sharp pain was still there. Started pestering my GP for MRi but got X-ray!!! Ortopeadist in NHS said my knee was fine and i could run.Also i x ray showed early arthritis- i am 40. after this appointment i was runing on/off on that knee for 3 months. Pain was still there. I went to GP again to beg for MRI, exagerating symptoms.
Finnally got it and MRI showed oblique meniscus tearout.Then it went pretty fast. Withing 2 weeks i was seen by consultant and my op was scheduled after ski holiday, exactly 1 year after trauma! To be honest i never stopped exercising and when my Op was scheduled i did a lot to make my muscules stronger. Got operated on sucesfully. After opening and inspecting my knee surgeon said i had NO early artritis! Started doing cardio/ running after 8 weeks and after 12 weeks after Op i started running more. The knee doesn't feel NEW(it is not like changing tyre) but medically i am sound. I wish you all the best, you will be fine, get MRI. Good luck.
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@Bride of Tubaski, as mentioned above, you could get the MRI done privately for £200ish at Vista Diagnostics at Waterloo.

http://www.vistadiagnostics.co.uk/

Got mine done there.
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Wife got hers done here - http://www.prime-health.co.uk/
Quick jaunt down the A3 from London.
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@Bride of Tubaski,

I may be a bit late to this, sorry, but if your knee doesn't settle beware of just forking out for a scan.

I think that approach can result in potential misdiagnosis and even over treatment.

A scan is really only useful as part of a proper assessment. The reason for that is that unless someone has listened to what happened , how it happened and what you wan to get back to its really very difficult to give anything other than a "one size fits all' treatment plan. In addition a meniscus tear on scan may not be causing symptoms - hence why you may have read in the papers this week that the NHS is wasting money on too many arthroscopies.

If you want more i wrote a blog ages ago on this topic as it is a recurring theme.
http://www.wimbledonclinics.co.uk/blog/mri-scans-can-be-a-waste-of-money-jonathan-bell-explains-why

If you have any questions pm me.

Jonathan Bell
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Hi All, sorry for the late response, had a non ski related health blip this week, but all good now Very Happy

Thank you all for your support as ever. I had a physio session today and I'm making an appointment with the G.P. on Monday as there's still no change.

But! I'll keep smiling, there's a beautiful sunny weekend from tomorrow that I can spend sitting in the garden with my crochet Laughing Laughing
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