 Poster: A snowHead
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a ski trip to soll back in 2000 was spoiled by almost everyone smoking, and when the old lady at the check out in a mountain restaurant blew smoke over my meal i nearly threw up, so whats austria like now, i still have a few austrian resorts i"d like to visit before i hang up my skis, kitzbuel, st anton saalbach and shladming, i have been avoiding austria for the last 13 years, so is it safe to go back
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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compostcorner, it might have been your experience then but I have never witessed anything so gross. I have found plenty of places with proper no smoking areas. I hate smoking but have never been too bothered by it in Austria.
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It's still pretty smoky out there IMO. In restaurants you might get people at the next table smoking, but the little bars are the worst - sometimes the only way to get away from it is by going outside. It's a real shame.
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I must admit just hearing some bad stories about smoking in Austria is one of the reasons I will not go there. I hope it is better than it used to be, but it still puts me off.
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I thought it was pretty bad in Soelden when I was there last year. We have got so use to the nice atmosphere in bars and restaurants over the rest of the world ithat it comes as a huge shock to find such badly polluted air.
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I was in a small hut on the mountain at Christmas and that is the first time in ages that I have experienced smoking indoors in Austria.
Still, the kids made enough of a fuss to get him to put it out. They do have their uses 
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Spent a week in Austria over Christmas - I have to say it wasn't too bad this year. I remember only once being seriously wafted by smoke.
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I thought the whole of Europe was no indoor smoking?
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You know it makes sense.
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i was in mayrhofen 2 years ago and it was pretty good , i think nearly every bar we went in to had a non smoking area which in some places was most of the bar. last year in schaldming it was awful. every bar seemed to be all smoking . the only exception was the big hotel opposite the bottom of the planni runs. so back to mayrhohfen next week. 
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We were also in Austria this year. Did find it a lot better than other years, however people were smoking in a restaurant one night. My teenagers were shocked and did find our clothes smelt slightly of smoke the following day.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Schladming last week was bad although we did find a one non smoking restaurant on the hill at Hauser, Mayrhofen changed a few years ago and is great these days.
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We were in Soll over Christmas, generally anywhere there was food smoking was not a problem. However, heading to a drinking establishment and the smoking could get quite heavy, could definitely smell it on the clothes at the end of the day.
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Most restaurants and hotels in Saalbach are non-smoking, but most bars still have smoking areas, which of course then pollute the non-smoking section as well. Strangely, it seems to be the staff rather than the guests who smoke the most.
The call for a total ban (as reported above) is again being debated in Parliament and looks like it has a majority, so it may become law in the summer.
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Do you mind not eating while I'm smoking 
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The call for a total ban (as reported above) is again being debated in Parliament and looks like it has a majority, so it may become law in the summer.
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I'd be very interested in any updates on this. I've mainly skied in France and Italy (Andorra once) and I've always fancied trying Austria.
I was considering Austria for when i book our next ski trip (after the one in a couple of weeks) and I'd never even considered smoking indoors. I'd just assumed it would be non smoking like everywhere else.
This is certainly putting me off giving Austria a go.
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@quinton, I found the bars in Saalbach quite smoky - but the worst one was the hotel bar! (Berger's Sport Hotel). It was like the whole Dutch smoking team were in there, my clothes stank! 
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hardly notice the smoking tbh in many places, since there has been a partial ban for a few years anyway.
any reasonable size food establishment will have segregated smoking area or no smoking at all. any small bar is either no smoking or half way to Dutch standard choking fog.
almost every place I've been to has been no smoking indoors, except the city bars in Innsbruck where I've walked in and instantly remembered that they don't have an outright ban.
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| HoneyBunny wrote: |
| @quinton, I found the bars in Saalbach quite smoky - but the worst one was the hotel bar! (Berger's Sport Hotel). It was like the whole Dutch smoking team were in there, my clothes stank! |
+1 Bobbys can be really bad as well.
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I'm in St Johann right now.
My hotel allows smoking in the bar, but not in the restaurant, and I think this combination is pretty commonplace.
Several of the mountain restaurants do have smoking areas, usually (but not always) quite small.
And smoking seems to be commonplace in the circular mountain bars.
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I'm pretty certain there isn't a law saying you have to smoke in Austria
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| alex_heney wrote: |
| And smoking seems to be commonplace in the circular mountain bars. |
Recently had half a ski group stood outside the circular mountain bar while the other half remained inside, mainly because it was ruddy cold and not because they smoked. Would be good if smoking was totally stopped in public places. Smoke can't be good for techinal (Goretex, Event etc) jackets.
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In St Anton its very rare for folks to smoke inside (albeit theres an odd old-school place that has a smoking area at the bar but if bad you just go somewhere else?!), I cant recall the last time I noticed it being an issue and i'm really smoking intolerant, everyone seems to go outside now just like in UK.
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You know it makes sense.
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I cannot think of an on-mountain restaurant in the Arlberg that still allows smoking inside. KriegerAlpe , in Lech, was one of the last hold-outs, but I am reasonably sure they are now also non-smoking.
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Much better in flachau area this season
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Poster: A snowHead
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Don't they still allow smoking in Pomodorro??
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My experience (2 weeks in Hintertux at the end of each of the last few seasons) has been that the current law is widely ignored and that resort bars are very smoky. Really unpleasant, like going through a time-warp to the bad old days.
On the mountain was fine though.
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We were in Zellamsee and it was pretty bad this year , we really noticed it more than other years .
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I was in Obergurgl for the first time in 4 years in December and found it astonishing that smoking inside is still tolerated. Sure, it's not everywhere and there are segregated areas, but the experience of one's clothes stinking of smoke in the morning is one that I thought had disappeared for ever.
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Obertauern last year, it put my whole family off Austria. Even wrote to the Austrian tourist board, who suggested that to ban smoking would damage business! Back to Zermatt this year. Not to Austria till they bring a smoking ban in. Shame, I really like the country and the Skiing. 
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Last year there was loads of smoking inside bars. Very annoying - who wants to stink of smoke?!? Didn't notice it in restaurants tho.
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Even May 2018 is better then nothing. So I hope they will stick to it, and not have this crap they have now, where you are basically allowed to smoke everywhere, even if there's suppose to be some sort of smoking law, but with so many exceptions, that it's worthless.
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Eh... to much of hopes... based on this what I have seen in few other articles, it's only for places where they serve food. So bars and coffee places will still be smokers paradise, and the rest of us can easily f***ck off if we don't like smoke.
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