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Zermatt (and Cervinia) 2016/17

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@Brothergrimm, @JohnMo, should I even consider a guide? Is there anything good to access off the resort?

Or should I consider Monte rosa? I can eat the air bnb fee and probably remain cost neutral given we are talking Switzerland. Is it that much better in champoluc? Sigh, if I wasn't so obsessed with the alps.
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Redwine wrote:
@Brothergrimm, @JohnMo, should I even consider a guide? Is there anything good to access off the resort?

Or should I consider Monte rosa? I can eat the air bnb fee and probably remain cost neutral given we are talking Switzerland. Is it that much better in champoluc? Sigh, if I wasn't so obsessed with the alps.


If you were coming out tomorrow I would say it was not worth a guide for lift accessed stuff. A mate of mine round in Nendaz (part of the 4 valleys with Verbier) knows a guide very well and he took him off to a small resort on the other side of the Rhone valley where they found some good off piste. You could also find some decent stuff if you went ski touring or heliskiing.

However up on the weather outlook thread things are starting to look a bit more optimistic. I will keep my skis crossed for you.

I don't know about Monte Rosa. It was quite a bit better at Christmas but I am not sure it is much different now. The only two places I have skied this year are Zermatt-Cervinia and the Verbier 4 Valleys. They are pretty similar condition - 4 valleys a bit better than Zermatt but Cervinia probably best of all.
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New snow across Cervina today. Started about 12 until 6. Most people headed in so I had empty pistes with a reasonable layer of powder for the last 90 minutes. The new snow should get bashed down tonight and improve things for this weeks guests. We have had a good week.
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So, it seems to get to chalet etoile from zermatt is a "check the weather first" type of situation. Is the restaurant therefore accustomed to taking reservations on one day or overnight notice? of should I be making a reservation now, and hoping that the weather is OK on the day that I chose. I will be there during a pretty busy time of the season, I think. Mid-Feb with a few school vaca weeks around europe and the USA.

Still praying for storms.
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Just arrived back from a trip to Cervinia. We had lunch at Chalet Etoile a couple of days. We just called in late that morning to book for 1:30 on the same day - however there were only two people in our party.

Not sure what happened on one of the days re the links from Cervinia to Zermatt as they were closed (thu 26th Jan and Fri 27th) but one, I can't remember which, was not due to high winds. There were rumours that the runs in zermatt were icy, but we never got a proper story.
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Chalet Etoile from Zermatt is used to reservations on the day or day before. No need to reserve weeks in advance. It's an easy ski from the top at Testa Grigia -just make sure you go down the correct side from the top. That means drop down from Testa Grigia as if heading towards Zermatt and hang a left as soon as you see it around the side of the mountain back through to the Italian side and ski the red runs to the right of the chairlifts. Those runs are a total blast. Chalet Etoile sits slightly above Plan Maison. If you ski fast, it takes no more than about 10 mins to get there from the top.
On a sunny calm day, no need to worry about wind and lift closure. In my experience, the lift companies don't tend to open unless you can get back, or they restrict your access down the other side if the weather is a bit dodgy to start with. The easiest way back up to Zermatt is the succession of 3 chairs from Plan Maison. Take about 30 mins I think. The lifts will have a sign on them stating when the last lift back to Zermatt is.

Chalet E is one of my fave mountain restaurants. Yum!

Forecast for the end if this week seems to be shaping up into some proper snowfall.
Zermatt is wonderful. Even if it's not "the best" ski resort in the world, it is somewhere you really have to put on your ski bucket list.
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I am not sure I would be quite so confident of getting into the restaurant (i.e. table service) part if just phoning up on the day. We phoned from the top of the mountain last Tuesday just before 12 and couldn't get a table for three. Things will get busier as February progresses.

On the other hand I wouldn't worry if you have booked from Zermatt and find you can't get over. That must happen to them a reasonable amount over the course of a season.
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Skied a lot of the area today, from sunegga to riffleberg to swarzee to cervinia. Visibility generally pretty poor all day. Pistes fairly quiet. On piste conditions ok. Off piste terrible. Snowing heavily at zermatt resort level now so should improve things tomorrow just as I am heading home Crying or Very sad
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@picnic64, I feel your pain. Always happens to me that way. Watching snowflakes from the plane.
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this looks ok, possible change in weather patterns? Finally....wait and see...wait and see....

https://www.wunderground.com/ch/zermatt
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Difficult to get reliable snowfall reports online. Have seen reports of 0 to 30 cm over these past few days. Can anyone on the ground quantify the snowfall? This weekend looks promising.
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@skiandgolfnut,
My first day today beautiful weather. Great snow up top. Cervinia had great conditions too to bottom. I'd say 15-20 cmon the glacier. Not to fond of 40 degree weather in the village but up top is great.
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Amazing day. Everything from middle station (2.300+ meters) and upwards was in excellent condition on piste. Off piste still quite gnarly.
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@Ptspeak, @axci, new snow?
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@Redwine,
Nothing new as of yet. I'm just an American visitor so I'm no expert, but have been following the thread here. Today Cervinia was closed. Most of the Glacier was too. High winds up at Trockener Steg. The glacier closed completely by 11. Pistes are in need of a refresh at least but decent cover above 2200. Clouds are moving in. Snow supposedly coming in the next few hours. +4 in town.
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Mind you dont get fleeced like my pal in the Lap Dance club Cervinia Laughing
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Snow coming down in small amounts in Cervinia. If it keeps up over night we might have a nice top up by the morning.
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Fantastic final day on the mountain. Probably between 5-10 cm of fresh up top and blue bird.
It was possible to make fresh tracks on piste right until lunch. Snow is falling again now at resort level.
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@axci, thanks for update. Did u ski zermatt or cervinia? Both benefiting from snow now?
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@Redwine
I was primarily in Cervinia. Popped over to Schwarzee on Zermatt side yesterday and it also looked nice. Wind picked up late in the afternoon but nothing critical.
Heading home now just as the snowing started again in Cervinia.
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Heavy snow in Zermatt all day. Circa 20 cm fresh powder on runs. Cervinia link closed today and pretty certainly tomorrow due to high winds up top. Little wind if any in the village though.
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Back home after a super week in Cervinia and Zermatt. Put together a small edit of our trip. Most of the stuff was recorded on Friday. Enjoy.


http://youtube.com/v/7ryzN79SDHM
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Arrived in resort Cervinia yesterday with heavy snow falling. This morning high winds have closed the Italian side...
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So by the end of the storm how much snow was there?
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Haven't been to Zermatt since the 80s when I was all of seven years old. Currently there are some cheap flights out of NYC to Milan. Can anyone recommend a shuttle service between Malpensa Airport and Zermatt? Thinking about a quick trip in mid March.

Thanks!
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Haven't been to Zermatt since the 80s when I was all of seven years old. Currently there are some cheap flights out of NYC to Milan. Can anyone recommend a shuttle service between Malpensa Airport and Zermatt? Thinking about a quick trip in mid March.

Thanks!


Malpensas is the least convenient of the three main airports that people generally use to get to Zermatt. Zürich and Geneva have train stations in the airport that take you direct to Visp where you get on the Zermatt train. We have only used Milan when we have fancied combining it with a day in Milan at the football or the opera. However if you are linking up directly you get a bus to Domodossa and there you get on the train to Visp where as mentioned you get the Zermatt train. Alternatively you could hire a car. The Simpson pass between Italy and Switzerland does get closed in snowy weather but there is a car train that continues to run.
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Going to zermatt via Milan in a week and this is what we are doing. Going to be in Milan for a few days before heading into the alps, but we will take train from central through brig. It cost about 190 chf round trip. Also getting from malpensa to centrale is 20
Euro round trip.
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@JohnMo, @Redwine, Thank you, both! I was in St. Anton for New Years and just missed the snow. I'd like to get back over to the Alps for another go this winter.
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The 20 euro maplensa express requires online advance purchase. If u are planning on doing that.
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Still snowin in Zermatt , pretty much continuously since Sunday. Fair bit of avalanche danger currently, but once this is over I Would think itinerie routes could be opened.
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@twoodwar, please please please. Arrive in little over a week.
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Still snowing in Cervinia and Zermatt... great powder on and off piste. Not too many people. More snow falling in cervinia tonight and more forecast overnight and tomorrow.

Offpiste you still have to be careful for unexposed rocks.

Given snowfall coming down and what I can see, those coming later this week/ next week should have no problems.
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Anyone out on the slopes recently with a report. Are the itineries open? Doesn't look like any more storms this week, does it?
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@Redwine,

My son and his wife have been out for a long weekend at our place. They drove up on snow covered roads and the photos I've seen showed lots of good stuff around. However it is the same story - enough snow (and snow making) plus cold temperatures have kept the pistes in great shape. But the itineraries need the major dumps that we just haven't had. Even piste 15 that links Kumme with Tuftern is not open. It is always the last "normal" piste to open. It too needs a decent amount of snow.

I am back out in a fortnight. I really hope the itineraries are open then. But there is no snow looking likely this week.
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Report on my daughter in law's travel blog of their trip:

http://apairofpassports.com/skiing-in-zermatt/

She is 100% a piste skier so it concentrates on that. Piste skiing has been and is great. Lift accessed off piste not so much (still not a single itinerary open). Two weeks until I am back out, my broken rib is mending so I am hoping next week brings something good.
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@JohnMo, thanks! looks like it will be piste skiing. I will try and give some updates next week when I am there. That little hutte mentioned in the blog post looks perfect to bring to the family. have etoile in cervinia on the radar also. Anything else that we should definitely try to work into the rotation?

Is a guide worth the effort? seems like there is nothing they can find for us given how sparse the off piste is anyway.
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@Redwine, I think the whether to hire a guide question comes down as much to finances and how much you want to spend a week just doing pistes. There is a decent amount of snow around so I think a guide would manage to find you some decent places to go. It just wouldn't be as good as a "normal" (whatever that is) year. I know I would still splash out if I was a visitor.
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i'll probably play the guide by ear, and see what things look like when i get there next week. Any guide suggestions in case we think they can find some stuff.

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Got the most honest comment from a zermatt ski school, essentially saying there aint much decent off piste unless you go deep into the glaciers. I guess its the piste for us.
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Arrived, what a beautiful place. What area should I start at tomorrow? We have to take the bus, so I suppose just skiing around one should not check their skis at any of the bases. Heard they need more snow from ppl we bumped into on the street, but everyone was also smiling. Village looks busy.
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@Redwine, I suggest getting the train up to Gornergrat to enjoy the view and get used to the altitude, whatever you do have a great time, wish I was there.
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