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Dolomites 2016/17 Weather Report

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Time to start speculating. Will there be snow on 1 January 2017? Last year I gather snow didn't arrive until the following week. Since I'm arriving on 31/12 it had better well get the finger out and turn up well before then Smile
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Will be keeping an eye on this thread. Have booked flights to Milan in the middle of Jan but am waiting until the week before to choose resort. Dolomites will def be a possibility though.
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If you look on page 1 of the BB thread there is a live webcam in Arabba 🌨🌨🌨

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Because the Dolomites do not get as much snow they have a shed load of snow cannons and are VERY VERY good at managing what snow they have. Also the pistes have been picked clear of rocks so they do not need a lot unlike some other resorts with rocks everywhere.

I have had good piste skiing with only 10 to 15 cms of snow reported.
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TQA wrote:
Because the Dolomites do not get as much snow they have a shed load of snow cannons and are VERY VERY good at managing what snow they have. Also the pistes have been picked clear of rocks so they do not need a lot unlike some other resorts with rocks everywhere.

I have had good piste skiing with only 10 to 15 cms of snow reported.


The Dolomites had the best skiing in Europe last Christmas and it hadn't snowed all season. It's quite a surreal experience skiing on 600km of white ribbon pistes draped across green meadows.
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I saw the pictures of last Christmas. Very strange. I was there the third week of Jan and it was all snowy like a proper resort Smile
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@cameronphillips2000,

you mean like this !!


http://youtube.com/v/R9vgmy1fiQU
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Ghost Dog wrote:
Time to start speculating. Will there be snow on 1 January 2017? Last year I gather snow didn't arrive until the following week. Since I'm arriving on 31/12 it had better well get the finger out and turn up well before then Smile


This year i AM NOT going to obsess like last year. I was panicking like made over the lack of snow and hot temps for the PreBB and BB. You know what - whilst off piste was pants, the slopes were simply amazing - not a rock in sight on the pistes, very little ice (until the end of the day) and I had a great time. What made it even better is I got to prance around in a thin top rather than being all wrapped up Happy
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@cameronphillips2000,

you mean like this !!


http://youtube.com/v/R9vgmy1fiQU



Kinda cool.
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albob wrote:
@cameronphillips2000,

you mean like this !!


http://youtube.com/v/R9vgmy1fiQU



Kinda cool.


Yep, although to be fair most of the piste are much wider and still covered.

I did ski on a narrower one, through Corvara golf course when somebody actually chipped over me from one side of a 6 ft wide piste piste over the top to a green on the other side. It was quite a good shot actually and he probably sank the following putt.
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That lad is all equipped with his knapsack and helmet.
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@biddpyat, Don't be daft, thats his Avi gear - just in case Toofy Grin Toofy Grin Toofy Grin
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Got the usual problem of trying to find a car hire company in Italy that offers winter tyres. I emailed Europcar which offered a package last year with such tyres, but got a dismissive response along the lines that they only offer this facility in countries where they are compulsory.
Don't suppose anyone is aware of any positive developments here with other car hire companies in Italy?
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Hire in Veneto. Has to be winterised by law.
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Will there be snow on 1 January 2017?

Yes. I'm there early December each year and never a problem. Even last year, it may have looked bare but the SR complete.
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We were there end of Jan last year. Perhaps only 30cms of natural snow on the tops, but the on piste skiing was excellent pretty much everywhere snowHead
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cameronphillips2000 wrote:
Hire in Veneto. Has to be winterised by law.


Tried a couple of companies at Venice airport and no mention of winter tyres Sad
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Got the usual problem of trying to find a car hire company in Italy that offers winter tyres. I emailed Europcar which offered a package last year with such tyres, but got a dismissive response along the lines that they only offer this facility in countries where they are compulsory.
Don't suppose anyone is aware of any positive developments here with other car hire companies in Italy?


If you fly into Venice, all cars are fitted with winter tyres (of a sort) by law. This was not the case a few years ago but I believe it change three years ago to be mandatory. Last year I confirmed it with Avis.

However, the Ford Kuga they provided had M+S tyres which they said were winter snow tyres. Now I don't want to get into a debate on tyres but M+S are NOT proper winter tyres but they are good enough and you may want to consider a backup of chains-hire as well. I had these on my Landrover freelander and you would slide at slow speeds in light-snow on a hill. However, my Honda Accord with proper winter tyres was flawless. So it may be worth while sending an email to confirm if there are winter tyres or M+S.

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Thanks Bob for that
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Pordoi is at nearly 3000 metres tho'.......
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It's snowing!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smile
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I was in Corvara last week and first thing Saturday morning, I could see snow had settled at approx 2000m above Colfosco around the top of the Col Pradat gondola and the top of Forcelles chair. Nice to see but had to leave for home that morning
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pjd wrote:
Got the usual problem of trying to find a car hire company in Italy that offers winter tyres. I emailed Europcar which offered a package last year with such tyres, but got a dismissive response along the lines that they only offer this facility in countries where they are compulsory.
Don't suppose anyone is aware of any positive developments here with other car hire companies in Italy?


If you fly into Venice, all cars are fitted with winter tyres (of a sort) by law. This was not the case a few years ago but I believe it change three years ago to be mandatory. Last year I confirmed it with Avis.

However, the Ford Kuga they provided had M+S tyres which they said were winter snow tyres. Now I don't want to get into a debate on tyres but M+S are NOT proper winter tyres but they are good enough and you may want to consider a backup of chains-hire as well. I had these on my Landrover freelander and you would slide at slow speeds in light-snow on a hill. However, my Honda Accord with proper winter tyres was flawless. So it may be worth while sending an email to confirm if there are winter tyres or M+S.

regards
Bob


I hired from Venice last Feb from Hertz. I was offered cars with snow tyres, but the extra charges were more than the prepaid rental cost! They didn't come as standard.

I took a Focus Estate with summer tyres & snow chains which is the minimum requirement on many roads going North and there was no extra charge for this.

It snowed quite a bit, but roads were kept clear up to & around Alleghe. Even drove up to Arabba one day without problem.
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Cheers @luigi, my nightmare is that it will snow heavily on the road up from Waidbruck to St Ulrich and I'll end up having to put on rusty and ill fitting snow chains on during the dark. We're flying to Bergamo so am thinking of hiring a car and parking it at Bozen if the weather turns nasty and/or driving it down there in advance of our departure date if heavy snow is forecast then. A ridiculous state of affairs though but the alternatives of flights to Austria and Bavaria at half term make that option prohibitive and public transport from Bergamo is not easy.
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my nightmare is that it will snow heavily on the road up from Waidbruck to St Ulrich


Is that road ever snowed up? I'm pretty sure you'd be OK even in a good season. Of course a storm can hit anywhere in the Alps, but that's a pretty major route (e.g. several buses per hour use it) so I'd guess it was always kept clear. And on the bright side, if you had to use chains on that road you'd be in for epic conditions when you did make it:-)
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My Daughter was enjoying walks in very warm sunshine in the mountains above Ortesei on Monday. No snow yet. wink
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Cheers @luigi, my nightmare is that it will snow heavily on the road up from Waidbruck to St Ulrich and I'll end up having to put on rusty and ill fitting snow chains on during the dark. We're flying to Bergamo so am thinking of hiring a car and parking it at Bozen if the weather turns nasty and/or driving it down there in advance of our departure date if heavy snow is forecast then. A ridiculous state of affairs though but the alternatives of flights to Austria and Bavaria at half term make that option prohibitive and public transport from Bergamo is not easy.


The road from Ponte Gardena to Ortisei is so heavily trafficked & ploughed, I doubt if snow would ever be allowed to settle there.

In early March, 12 yrs ago we arrived to snow flurries at Treviso airport, so it was very cold. Took an Opel Astra estate with summer tyres (no chains, that's all there was back then) up to Selva, quite a bit of slush in Val Gardena, but road was fully open. It snowed nearly every night that week and the only issue we had was a short section where the driveway to our apartment crossed the piste that runs down through Selva village. We drove up to Plan de Gralba one day, the car park was snowy, but the road was fine. Though, I believe the Gardena & Sella Passes were closed at times while they cleared snow. Ortisei is considerably more sheltered & lower altitude than Selva.

Good to have a plan B, but I doubt you'll need it.
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Thanks @luigi, though I remember doing the run in Feb from Wolkenstein/ Selva down to the valley very early in the morning when it was dark , freezing and snowing very heavily and thinking how relieved I was to have winter tyres ( we were flying to and back from Munich so winter tyres came as standard ). Perhaps I'm worrying unnecessarily though!
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First snow on top of Ciampinoi today Smile -- probably gone by Noon, but a start..
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Snow Cannons running on Piz Sella this A.M. !! snowHead


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Cannons in use on the Tondi di Faloria slope in Cortina...temps well below zero overnight, but when the sun comes out it was +12C during the day, though cannons are running in one of the archive shots when the webcam says it's +8C. I guess they're probably just trying to get a base down for the weekend's expected cold snap bringing perhaps around 20-30cm of snow at altitude across the Dolomites. Colder temps forecast all next week.

http://www.bergfex.com/faloria-cristallo-mietres/webcams/c2029/

A good feature of Bergfex webcam pages is that you can trawl back through a cam archive, so in the evening when it's dark on the resort cams, you can see what happened during daylight hours. wink

Looking hopeful for a more normal start to the season! snowHead
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More snowmaking going on in the Sella Pass above Selva... snowHead

http://www.bergfex.com/groeden-wolkenstein/webcams/c7768/
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Snowfall overnight in Arabba...village roofs are white...with hopefully more to arrive over coming days!! snowHead

http://www.bergfex.com/arabba/webcams/c2848/
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Looking good in the Dolomites

http://www.valgardena.it/en/val-gardena/information-services/weather-live-cams/live-webcam/piz-sella-live/
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Looking good in the Dolomites........


followed by the sad sight of RAIN streaming down the webcams this AM...... Sad
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Still snowing
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Looking good in the Dolomites........


followed by the sad sight of RAIN streaming down the webcams this AM...... Sad


Snowy roofs have gone in Arabba, clearly just too mild today at that altitude...early days yet, this coming week looks a lot colder.
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Looking a bit snowy and cannons are on. Winter is here Smile
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