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Next Season is going to be lot more Expensive!

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http://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart
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Kind of squashed in the higher $20 price bands haven't they?
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@Frank Spencer, my post was in response to yours saying oil price is falling. It isn't.

If you want the data for other years I suggest you DIY. It would also be worth mapping it to the £:$ rate as that will give a true cost in the UK.
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Kind of squashed in the higher $20 price bands haven't they?

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Last 2 candles on a daily chart are red. We can all cherry pick. Bottom line is everyone's hedged and price/currency/interest rate exposure is minimalized. When oil was at $147 in 2008 there were no surcharges. When it was $34 earlier this year, no refunds either. If there are prices rises for some next year? Either someone's trying to have your eyes out or they need a new broker...or both.
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There WERE fuel surcharges back in '08, on flights at least. £30/leg was common. And back in '08 $147/barrel was £116/barrel. Today's $50/barrel is £45 - but with oil prices set to rise/the pound to fall we'll be looking at £116/barrel when oil hits around $110, not $150/barrel.

As for the oil hedges, these run out and when the do the new ones being negotiated now won't be half as good. Hedges don't stop price changes, they just delay their impact and give businesses certainty for a period of time so they can plan and budget.
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Oil hedges do not 'run out'. That way lies madness. Nor are they 'negotiated'. They're worked out to the cent, then executed on the markets. Any business with exposure to oil price, currency and interest rate fluctuations will be hedged as tight as a drum at all times. At least all our clients are. They don't even have to do anything either, the investment bank does all the work...for a pittance!
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Crystal selling NY packages cheap at the mo, so all is not lost.
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We were planning on heading out first week in March with Action Outdoors. Since last Friday all week prices have gone up by £40 or so, which is greater than 5% on the costs

(I'm only assuming it was because of the conversion rate, mind you, I haven't been tracking the UCPA.fr web rates)
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Just bought a sandwich for £2.10, I don't think that's bad? I am sure I paid more in a service station on a motorway in France last year.
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Has anyone booked Andorra hotel, lift pass and equipment through Esquiades.com?Even with the weak pound the deals seem pretty good. The company is based in Spain and has been around for a number of years.
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I usually take a jar of marmite with me on a ski holiday to spread on a morning baguette/piece of toast, this coming season however my holiday will certainly be more expensive due to the inevitable increase in the price of marmite! This of course is dependent on me finding a jar of marmite Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
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Marmite was only unavailable at Tesco Online. That dispute is now settled so no problems for us Marmite addicts
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I'll sell you half a jar of squeezy Marmite for €500 Toofy Grin
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Lets just call it Brexit spread from now on.
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Minion1980 wrote:
Lets just call it Brexit spread from now on.

Very appropriate, given how "Marmite" Brexit is.
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@Rabbie, that one may be settled but more are incoming...
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@under a new name, Sure you're right.
Prices are going to go up to cover the lower value of the pound
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I'll sell you half a jar of squeezy Marmite for €500 Toofy Grin


Fair enough with the price, but a squeezy jar??? Something doesn't seem right about this deal! I sense you may be trying to rip me off Sad Sad Puzzled Puzzled
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Don't spread it about Shocked
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Next Season is going to be lot more Expensive! That was the Title ...

but in the future UK winter sporters could have fewer holiday days and lower holiday pay.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/workers-rghts-secured-by-european-court-decisions-threatened-by-brexit-a7367876.html
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@stanton, scary stuff Sad
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I use a small, independent ski operator for solo trips to Morzine and they've just had to put their prices up due to dropping value of the pound.
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It'd be a brave (suicidal?) government that starts rolling back the workers rights that have been implemented recently - especially around holiday and parental leave. Strangely enough they were very popular with the workers (who're obviously also the electorate!)

Anyway, to revert to the thread title: 1st 2017 ski trip - Dolomites at 1/2 term - was 70% paid for in March so a comparatively good deal. However just booked the same apartment in Chamonix we had at Easter this year and it's 40% more expensive for same period next year Sad I suspect a fair amount of that will be AirBnB cashing in as well as the exchange rate as I doubt the owners of the property have raised the price much - if at all given how late Easter is..

The balance of the 1/2 term trip is going to hurt, and if FX rates don't recover a bit I doubt we'll be able to afford to book it again for 2018 Crying or Very sad (Unless we don't go twice and that is NOT an option!)


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stanton wrote:
Next Season is going to be lot more Expensive! That was the Title ...

but in the future UK winter sporters could have fewer holiday days and lower holiday pay.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/workers-rghts-secured-by-european-court-decisions-threatened-by-brexit-a7367876.html


Conjecture, and politicians like staying in power, there will not be a reduction in either.
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Our resident troll doesn't understand the meaning of could and may - reads them as would and will
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@Boris, This is true, but I have joined alpinforums.com user name stantonprobrexit and I am mocking europe and how crap Germany is. Is that trolling?
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@Boris, +1
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@blahblahblah, @Boris, @PaulC1984,

Please keep on topic

Next Season is going to be lot more Expensive!
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Mine might not be. I will take sandwiches, a beer and a flask up in my sack when I ski, probably will cost about €2.50 a day instead of €12. That should save me over €800 as long as I can resist Apres. I needed to get healthier anyhow Madeye-Smiley
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Seems that there are deals out there, especially for Christmas.

Alpine Elements BB/TRANSFER/FLIGHTS/PASSES/SKIS 24TH December £2800.00 for family of 4 La Plagne.

So pizza for dinner and a sandwich at lunch £3000.00, I think that is ok.
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http://future.aae.wisc.edu/data/weekly_values/by_area/3278?tab=prices

What is going on with the EDAM index, it's gone up 50% in Europe, Dutch expats hit hard in the wallets.
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stanton wrote:
Next Season is going to be lot more Expensive! That was the Title ...

but in the future UK winter sporters could have fewer holiday days and lower holiday pay.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/workers-rghts-secured-by-european-court-decisions-threatened-by-brexit-a7367876.html


I guess one way to alleviate fears over the falling pound and increased costs when going on holiday is to just stop people going on holiday Wink
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stanton wrote:
Next Season is going to be lot more Expensive! That was the Title ...

but in the future UK winter sporters could have fewer holiday days and lower holiday pay.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/workers-rghts-secured-by-european-court-decisions-threatened-by-brexit-a7367876.html


I guess one way to alleviate fears over the falling pound and increased costs when going on holiday is to just stop people going on holiday Wink


I am doing my bit, no skiing this year, stick that in your pipe Europe.
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I will take sandwiches, a beer and a flask up in my sack when I ski, probably will cost about €2.50 a day instead of €12.


Yes, but that €2.50 might cost you the same in ££s that last season's €12 did...
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http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-budget-takes-a-pounding-from-uk-currency-woes/
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blahblahblah wrote:
http://future.aae.wisc.edu/data/weekly_values/by_area/3278?tab=prices

What is going on with the EDAM index, it's gone up 50% in Europe, Dutch expats hit hard in the wallets.


Once again @blahblahblah, Please keep on Topic.

We are not talking about the price of Dutch cheese unless its related to Fondue prices in the Alps but as far as I know they only use Swiss Gruyere & Emmental Cheese Very Happy

Same applies to Little Martin Please keep on Topic.

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stanton wrote:
Please keep on Topic.

Perhaps you would be happier with a blog somewhere else so that you could control any comments.
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eddiethebus wrote:
... I guess one way to alleviate fears over the falling pound and increased costs when going on holiday is to just stop people going on holiday Wink

Yeah, those experts who say everything we buy is actually made abroad are disloyal moaners. Anyway, we'll have a Royal yacht - that'll fix it.
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Has anyone booked Andorra hotel, lift pass and equipment through Esquiades.com?Even with the weak pound the deals seem pretty good. The company is based in Spain and has been around for a number of years.


I've just booked 4* Anyos Park direct for Feb Half Term - €2000 - Family of 4 Half Board inc Vallnord Ski Passes. Also booked flight (LHR > BCN) with BA for £550 inc 4 x 23kg bags/skis.

Vallnord, Grandvalira site all have Accom/Lift pass deals.
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