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The All New 16/17 Weather Outlook Thread

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Griggs wrote:
Hi

Heading out to Madonna Di Campiglio on the 26th March 2017 for a week. Be grateful for any weather experts thoughts on the potential for further snowfall for the Dolomites. Seems warm out there at the moment but with the possibility of the weather cooling after this coming weekend with potentially some precipitation.

Is this still the perceived outlook?

Many thanks


Got back from Madonna on Sunday 19th. Can't say how it will be next week but, I can suggest best times/ places to ski if it's as hot as last week. Groste sector gets very packed as snow softens, as everyone asumes height will preserve piste. But lack of shade means that Pradalago/5Laghi pistes are better between trees in afternoon and deserted after about 2:30.

Marilleva/Folgarida is good choice for middle of day if you're staying in MdC, skiing back towards end of afternoon against the returning rush of day trippers who have come up from the Val di Sole main road. Pistes on M/V side seem to hold out longer in heat, as they face more northerly.

Pinzolo slopes are great, but the snow deteriorated fast by end of last week and, unless temperatures drop significantly (for real snow and/ or snow making) it's best avoided.

The rule for Madonna is that pistes will be great if it's been cold enough overnight to make snow. The snowmaking and piste maintenance there is superb, but there's not enough at high altitude if weather is hot day and night.

Incidentally, if you have'nt been there before, Madonna is a fantastic choice for piste skiing in the right temperatures. I never thought I'd say this but I prefer it to every one of the major French resorts. Book a 3 star hotel directly, cheap flight to Verona, cheap transfers or hire car, & you'll save on cramped apartment holiday in France yet eat like lords, without sight of bloody raclette or tartiflette all week.
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@amarcord Thank you so much for the great tips. Madonna has received a little snow recently and may get a bit more by Sunday. Temps don't look to be so crazy high next week so hopefully it will all hold out. Does look a great resort so am looking forward to ambling about exploring. Very Happy
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06Z flipped to a very warm next week. Hopefully the 12Z will flip back.


Still going for very warm. Looks like it could hit 20c next week.

Been very warm for a while now but amazingly still nearly 100% pistes open in Bad Gastein / Bad Hofgastein and all in very good condition. They did wonders during that very cold January.
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@snowheads68, perhaps it would help if you'd say what resort/region you are talking about??
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@snowheads68, perhaps it would help if you'd say what resort/region you are talking about??


Besides the region in my location and the resorts in my post?
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kitenski wrote:
@snowheads68, perhaps it would help if you'd say what resort/region you are talking about??


Besides the region in my location and the resorts in my post?


Yes
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@amarcord, lots of folk have discovered that there is more to skiing than France!
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Lots of new snow to low altitude in the Pyrenees at the moment and also (but much at much higher altitudes) in the Southern Alps.

High avalanche risk all the same with lots of wind
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Very low humidity under the anticyclone over the uk right now. Down to 20%. Anyone coughing a lot or have a dry nose. Lips dry ?

It's preserving the snow cover despite double digit temps in the highlands.
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30-35 cm of fresh in Tignes at 2100m this morning. Local avalanche risk declared as 4 (forecast by MF was 3 last night)
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Ding Dong Bluebird morning in Serre Che after similar amounts in the valley (which is now rapidly disappearing as temps nudge towards double figures at 1,400m).

And not too many people around Cool

Whole morning we did not cross any other tracks, apart from when we went back on the piste.

@KenX, working out his next line........
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@Weathercam, has that ridge been pisted so you can just drop in anywhere Smile
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@kitenski, not all the time, but make it a hell of a lot easier to hike!

Plus you can do the long hike (20mins) and drop into another area, or into a steeper N facing pitch, or along to the Balme Couloir(s).

More photos in the Serre thread.
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@Weathercam, cheers, I really should come and play!!
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Eight children dead in big slide near Tokyo today.

http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=3041302#3041302
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Any thoughts on the FL in Lech this weekend? 1 of the forecasts I was looking at said rain all the way up to 2000m but another one said it would be snow up top.
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Some very warm and sunny spring weather of late. Skiing still possible down to bottom of Schladming, though very soft after 2pm. Obertauern a better bet. But by that time the Edelweisshutte probably the best bet anyway. Temperatures staying warm though unsettled over weekend.



The Arlberg



Chamonix



Cairngorm



Sestriere



Eastern Pyrenees

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Colorado has had a bad snow season.

But ski bookings have been good, up +9% YoY.

A-Basin will be the last to close this year, around June 4, 2017.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/mountains/looking-to-ski-snowboard-in-colorado-these-resorts-are-closing-soon-for-the-season
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@Whitegold, I was there and it defnitely wasn't a 'bad snow season'.
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do I spy a trend towards a cooling period via GFS in Ischgl coming up to around the 7th April (or perhaps just back to seasonal norms!!)
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@Whitegold, I was there and it defnitely wasn't a 'bad snow season


I wouldn't bother Jellybean.

It seems like every whitegold post is telling us it is the worst season ever or is going to be the worst season ever backed up with very little except doom mongering and photo's of the wrong resorts (see three valleys thread, claiming a picture of st Martin to be Les Men and a complete wash out when people who are there are saying it is absolutely fine)
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According to bergfex I should be able to mountain bike tomorrow in the sun at temps up to 22 deg C
http://www.bergfex.at/hohewandwiese/wetter/

.... yet still be able to ski fresh powder at one of the local resorts next weekend
http://www.bergfex.com/hochkar/wetter/berg/

(weather reports subject to change and they probably ruddy well will now I've posted this)
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Colorado going to get a storm rolling in Friday night into Saturday. Could see a foot of snow West of the Divide, places like Eldora and Breck should do okay. Down in the San Juans in SW CO could also get up to a foot of snow. Models not in alignment. As Whitegold alluded to, it was a bad snow year and some CO resorts only have 2-3 meter bases this time of year.
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@kitenski Yep, a trough over the European Alps looks to cool thing down briefly...
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Warmest March in 251 yearsin Austria and 26C in Salzburg yesterday. This after the coldest January in 30 years.

https://m.kurier.at/chronik/unser-neues-klima-der-waermste-maerz-in-251-jahren/255.576.470
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Woke up to a white village in Sauze this morning and still snowing.
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Yup. We left Plagne 1800 this morning in snow. About a cm on car windows to clear.
Interesting that most weather sites that predicted snow this weekend had been steadily retracting that idea.
Anyway, a cheery morning view for all this weekend's holidaymakers.
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Drove through Montgenevre today, it was a winter wonderland and chucking it down.
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Fresh snow and sunshine for the Easter hols in Montgenevre

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Any sign of a change in the temperature. I am off to Meribel on Sunday and it just looks like rain, rain and more rain right up to Val Thoren only turning to snow when you go higher than the resort.
I will take dry and no new snow but raining in resort is always a bit miserable.
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Big storms and below average temps being forecast from mid to end of the month on the last few GFS runs.

Salzburgerland


Western Tirol


Chamonix (not so much stormy)


Zermatt
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Stormy and unsettled weather returning to the West Coast. Sierra's getting some moisture with lowering freezing levels into the weekend. Forecasts for the next 72 hours could come in on the upper slopes with a meter, and about 50-70cm on lower slopes.

Breckenridge received over a foot yesterday, albeit reports were that the snow was on the heavier side.

PNW Cascades with somewhat warmish temps and freezing levels about 1,500 meters, and dropping to about 1,000 meters and 72 hour snow forecast on upper mtns to be anywhere from 10cm to possibly 40cm up higher, and farther North in Cascades toward Baker could see 50cm on upper slopes.

As a side note, Baker hit the 18 meter total snow fall for the season. Not too shabby! Cool
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This could be interesting for Austria

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AthersT, forgive my pedantry, but this word "storm" seems to be banded around a lot recently when all that is meant is snowfall.
Most of the definitions i can find suggest that Storm involves a degree of violence, usually with strong winds.
But here, while rain is just rain, snow always seems to come in a Storm.
Admittedly, snowfall does sometimes come with strong winds, but often is does not.
Is the term Storm getting devalued?
(or am i just an old fashioned fuddy-duddy? )
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You are correct Jon..................

I silently correct grammar, too........
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The final long term snow forecast update for this season from me... It's not all bad.
https://longrangesnowcenter.blogspot.com.au/2017/04/europe-on-long-term-7th-april-finale.html
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Thank you all for such a wonderful season on here. Thank you to all the guys who spend their time posting great information including, with the risk of forgetting lots of people, Noza, snowheads68, langball, AthersT, davidof, Weathercam, Jonpim, jimmybog, chocksaway, Peter S, Toadman and of course Whitegold. Thank you to all the lurkers who keep this site viable and thriving. Thanks to admin for running this forum. I'm focusing on the start of the Australian Snow Season now, but will be back to talk long long term in June or is it July? Anyway, enjoy your summer all and cheers to a great spring skiing season and a better season come December. JB out Very Happy


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Is the term Storm getting devalued?

Yes. Its one of those terms that is constantly used by American commentators and is now being picked up over here to incorrectly refer to any snowfall event or depression crossing the Alps. Add it to a rising inflection and .....yuck Evil or Very Mad
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@Jellybeans1000, many thanks!

Just realised your latest forecast goes all the way to end April but somewhat skipping the week that nearly 200 snowheads have their eyes on, 15-22. Any views there?
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Thank you Peter S. It is as i thought.

Not sure which statementyou are agreeing with Maersk - probably the fuddy-duddy one . . . Sad
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