I mean I know we annoy you lot but this was just a push too far
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Beckton said he and the skier barely spoke on the way up the mountain, though the man called attention to Beckton’s snowboard when they got on the lift, saying, “Oh, you’re a snowboarder, huh?”
It wasn’t until the top of the lift, at about 9:30 a.m., that the two men began chatting about the 5 to 6 inches of fresh powder on the ground, he said. Beckton said he made a comment about it being easier to get face shots of powder on skis as opposed to a snowboard.
In a Facebook post describing the encounter, Beckton quoted himself as saying, “To get tits-deep pow shots you just need to be on your edges.”
Whatever the comment, Beckton said the skier then turned to him and said, “Are you making fun of me?”
Beckton said he was “taken aback” by the question and wasn’t sure how to interpret it because the man was wearing a helmet and goggles and he couldn’t see his face.
“I thought it was kind of funny,” Beckton said. “I thought he might be joking. I wasn’t trying to offend anyone. I didn’t even think the comment was offensive.”
So, even though he actually hadn’t been making fun of the man, Beckton playfully answered his question and said, “Not really — but maybe.”
“If you think that’s funny,” the skier told him, “do you think this is funny?”
The skier then “grabbed me and pushed and pulled me off the chair,” Beckton said. A third man was riding the same chair, he said, though he didn’t know if the man was a friend of the skier’s or not.
The next thing he knew, Beckton was heading toward the ground in “an out-of-control fall” and somehow landed safely in the cushy powder.
The incident occurred near the lift’s last tower, 50 to 100 feet from the top, he said. He said the lift operator stopped the chair, though it traveled far enough before stopping to allow the skier to get off and disappear.
“I was really shooken up,” he said. “I was like, ‘Was that a joke? Did that really happen?’”
To be fair "tits-deep pow shots" might have made me a bit pushy pushy too
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How did he push him past the safety bar......ahh yes
It was in America they don't pull down the safety bar there!!! I questioned why they didn't when I was there last year and was told 'we know not to fall off chairs' which I found unbelievable in such a litigating country.
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@speachmaus, Its the same in Canada. Anyone who has been on, or seen a chair lift perform an emergency stop, will always ride a chair with the bar down.
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@speachmaus, Its the same in Canada. Anyone who has been on, or seen a chair lift perform an emergency stop, will always ride a chair with the bar down.
That's assuming the chair has one fitted! (often not the case in the USA!)
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Wow, they don't have safety bars/a culture of using them on US lifts?!! Won't somebody think of the children? Seriously, my second (7) is a bit scared of chairlifts anyway and this would terrify her!
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
@sparklies, I saw a child fall off a chairlift. It was at the start about 5m from base and he fell about 1.5m on to snow. The child seemed OK. They just stopped the lift sat him back on and started the lift again as if it happened all the time.
One guy was really annoyed when I pulled the bar down without asking permission first. Bonkers!!!
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That is shocking! It would be shocking anywhere, but especially in the US given their culture as you said earlier. It only takes one, bored, wriggly child.. I'm amazed there aren't more incidents.
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I gather (albeit from second-hand sources) that snowboarders are still very much frowned upon in certain resorts, especially in some US resorts. Nowadays, snowboarders are no better or worse than skiers IME.
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It's understandable.
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anti-snowboard stuff is so tedious. I mean really aren't we over this by now? I mean I don't snowboard myself but really...
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It's understandable
That's either a joke. In which case it might have been funny 20 years ago. Yawn
Or it's serious in which case
I gather (albeit from second-hand sources) that snowboarders are still very much frowned upon in certain resorts, especially in some US resorts. Nowadays, snowboarders are no better or worse than skiers IME.
Not really it's the 21st century - many people ski/ride in mixed crews. Only people likely to get their panties in a bunch are Deer Valley denizens and the more reactionary/hardcore Alta nuts. There are of course some reactionary old farts but no more than in the SCGB and are likely to be as prejudiced against wide skis/rocker/skittles outfits/anyone having fun and way more upset about any swearing even if done for comic effect.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, cheers for that. Good to know.
Admittedly I've not been to North America for a few years snowboarding now, but I'd never once encountered any animosity at any of the places I was at - quite the opposite actually. Why the liftie allowed this cockwomble to just ski off rather than detaining him for piste patrol/police is beyond me - It's assault and could've been much much worse.
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So, do safety bars on lifts actually make you any safer...or do they simply encourage you take more risks on the lift?
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@morganski, only if your wearing a helmet
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@morganski, nah they're a conspiracy by the safety bar manufacturers to prevent you from feeling the wind in your crotch. Welcome to SH, you'll fit right in.
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@speachmaus,
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The first time i saw Drop bars on lifts was the first time i skied in Europe in 2011 , as i brit prior to that i skied Alta every year (amongst the other utah resorts) as for Deer valley its a hatefull place !!
As someone who does not like heights its strange that no bar was never a problem for me .
as for skier/ Boarder wars ........... get down the mountain on whatever you like , but not being around boarders is preferable if there is a choice.
As for throwing someone off a lift ............. i may have helped a chap off accidentally once as i extricated my arm he had just nearly crushed but not on purpose and barely feet out of a lift gate .
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Are there any chairs in America with protective bubbles? Do you show how macho you are by not using the safety bar, or do you half freeze to death?
Not sure if this has been posted before. Perfect alignment in Austria between a stopped chair and a snow gun (but they did have the safety bar down)
Wow, they don't have safety bars/a culture of using them on US lifts?!! Won't somebody think of the children? Seriously, my second (7) is a bit scared of chairlifts anyway and this would terrify her!
I read somewhere it's so you are to blame if you fall off as opposed to the resort being liable if there's a safety bar. I've never skied across the pond though so I can comment as to how true this is.
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Are there any chairs in America with protective bubbles? Do you show how macho you are by not using the safety bar, or do you half freeze to death?
Not sure if this has been posted before. Perfect alignment in Austria between a stopped chair and a snow gun (but they did have the safety bar down)
Yes there are Lifts with Bubbles over the chair , and also lifts with heated seats and Bubbles.
Add to that the Valet who gets your ski gear into the day lodge from your SUV and parks it for you , and then returns it to you warmed up when its time to leave whilst packing your gear for you
Canyons and Deer Valley in Utah to name 2
Plus they know how to manage a lift queue
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Tough but fair. Anyone using the expression "pow" deserves to be thrown off the lift.
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It annoys me when people pull the safety bar down the second they are on the lift, before you are even settled. And when people lift it very early, especially when there are children on it. When I'm with my son I keep one foot on it until its close and safe. Some chairs also have a huge gap between the chain and bar, and it was an instructor actually that said put your ski pole across his lap.
Do the chairs in the US have no safety bar, or they have them but don't use them, or both?
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It annoys me when people pull the safety bar down the second they are on the lift, before you are even settled.
This is one of the reasons I wear a helmet.
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Apparently the perp was a well known local rent boy
(insert own punchline)
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It seems as though people who have never been to an American ski resort are hearing and believing and then repeating that American ski lifts don't have safety bars / don't use safety bars.
I have only ever ridden 1 lift over there with no safety bar in the past 10 years.
As for having the bar up or down it's up to you. I don't mind riding with it up if everyone else is ok with that but my wife always likes it down, in which case she just says "do you mind if I pull the bar down?" to which she ALWAYS gets the reply, ok sure. No one grumbles, no one has ever said no.
As for falling off a chair, I guess you just need to try and remember the last time you where sitting having a coffee or sitting watching TV and accidentally and fell off your chair. Most people with any kind of muscle control and coordination are able to sit on a chair and not fall off.....baring 20 pints of strong lager. I know chair lifts are moving and I know they often have to stop, but not with the kind of force to throw anyone (who doesn't need a carer) off.
So to anyone thinking they are a bunch of adrenalin fuelled crazy lift riders taking unnecessary risks in America, they are really not. Just ask them to put the bar down.
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It seems as though people who have never been to an American ski resort are hearing and believing and then repeating that American ski lifts don't have safety bars / don't use safety bars.
I have only ever ridden 1 lift over there with no safety bar in the past 10 years.
I too have been to many US ski resorts ( two within the last month), and can assure you that there are many which either don't have safety bars fitted to chairlifts at all e.g at Bridger Bowl ( incidentally a lovely little resort) or where they are fitted as at Steamboat Springs the habit amongst the locals seems to be from what I observed not to use them.
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Seriously, my second (7) is a bit scared of chairlifts anyway and this would terrify her!
