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The_catcher wrote:


Thanks, I just don't want to have a boot fitter/ salesman tell me I need all the extra add ons if it's going to bring very little to my skiing/ comfort. I know custom foot beds and injection moulded liners are extra but it seems all the modern boots state they have heat mouldable shells and liners, is this included in the price of the boot and the fitting fee or do you pay extra for this? So confusing.

As you say, modern boots have liners that take the shape of your feet and have shells that are mouldable....what they don't have is a decent footbed, which is why this is worth doing.
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Some shops charge a fitting fee, others include fitting in the price of the boot. Ultimately you're going to be paying for maybe a couple of hours of someones time whichever way they charge for it. I don't think I've seen anyone charging extra for heat moudling on top of the fitting fee.
As @Old Fartbag says decent footbeds are worth considering, also good thin ski socks, rather than great big woolly tube socks.
If you've got somewhere in mind give them a call and discuss your budget with them, they should be able to set your expectations realistically.
You don't have to go mad, but don't buy the wrong boots just because they are on sale.
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@The_catcher, I could be wrong but my expectation is that heat forming shells where thatís intended to happen will be included in the price.
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@CEM,

I'm just curious, having read your clipping up order, how you'd approach a pair of Dalbello Lupos? Very Happy

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Nick
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Thanks snowheads. So custom footbeds are worth investing in, more overtime at work required Shocked
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Covidien-TED-Anti-embolism-Stockings-DVT-Flight-Socks-PAIR-KNEE-LENGTH-L-Reg-E/252969077034?hash=item3ae621c92a:g:72kAAOSw6jNat5f9

These might be worth a try, once you have the correct measurement of your calves.
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So custom footbeds are worth investing in


Probably. See what your fitter says.
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A boot fitting report -

My Salomon boots were about 12 yo and showing signs of age, liners knackered etc. Shopping on the internet for boots is bonkers, so off to the shops for me.

Its been a while since I last bought boots, it's fair to say the process is way different now as is the weight of materials!!

Went to a couple of shops in Edinburgh to talk to staff - was not convinced at one shop but liked the attitude at Blues, so got fitted at their place in Rose Street.

Couldn't be better, service wise. Took time measuring my feet, discussing my skiing level, my hip issues, talked about flex etc.

We then tried on a few boots - nothing in the sale suitable, but no point saving £100 on something as vital imo.

Tried on a pair of Fischer Ranger 120 - perfect, if a bit pricey. One good thing was that my existing footbeds were still in good condition.

No hard sell, despite it being a quiet summer day - went home to mull it over and then decided to go for it.

Retuned and did the rigmarole of heating the boots, standing in the pressure machine etc. And that's it.

Post sale?

I can go back for tweaks as many times as I want, including reheating of the shells (within reason), good advice on trying them out in Scotland for a day or so then going back in to discuss ahead of any trip abroad.

All in all, very professional, friendly and well structured approach to boot fitting.
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Brilliant service as expected from all at www.solutions4feet.com yesterday, Steven did a great job, identifying the best options for my feet and improving the solution with each piece of feedback that I gave. Final result - a happy customer and a comfortable yet correctly sized pair of boots that hold my foot securely and that I am confident fit as well as is possible!
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Looking for advice on best option for me to get custom boots made but the problem is I'm in Dublin! Not convinced by the technical ability or skills of Snow & Rock in Dublin and no real options for testing them out here anyway. Considering flying to London for a weekend and trying to get a fitting done, plus a half day at a snowcentre to see if any tweaks are required. Is this overly ambitious? Or would I be better to wait until I get in resort? Would prefer not to spend half my ski week in a ski shop though .... 🤔 Any other options or thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!!
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@Ammo, have you any particular reason to doubt them? I was pleasantly surprised by the young girl who did the fitting for my daughter in Snow & Rock, she was knowledgeable on the subject and was doing all the right things, and asking the right questions.
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@Ammo, slightly depends on which resort you are going to.

Generically, I wouldnít be too excited about S&R either.
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Nickyj, I bought boots there before which I used for a few years but actually were probably too big and didn't do anything for my skiing. Brought them back to get custom soles which weren't great (according to in resort fitter in Morzine) and they also tried to adjust my old liner but that was a disaster. I don't think they are terrible but if I'm going to spend Ä500+ on new boots I want confidence in an expert fitter...
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@under a new name, going to La Tania above Meribel next year. So it might be a bit time consuming getting up and down to the fitters in Meribel.
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Hmmm.

If you can get to Bicester and an appointment at solutions4feet thatís probs what Iíd do.
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under a new name wrote:
Hmmm.

If you can get to Bicester and an appointment at solutions4feet thatís probs what Iíd do.



Thanks! Is there a snowcentre close to S4F to test the boots out?
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Ammo wrote:
under a new name wrote:
Hmmm.

If you can get to Bicester and an appointment at solutions4feet thatís probs what Iíd do.



Thanks! Is there a snowcentre close to S4F to test the boots out?


It's about 30-40 mins drive to Milton Keynes and about 45-60 to Hemel
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Ammo wrote:
@under a new name, going to La Tania above Meribel next year. So it might be a bit time consuming getting up and down to the fitters in Meribel.

La Tania isn't above Meribel, it's around the corner in the Courcheval valley. I am sure there are decent boot fitters in La Tania. It will take up a couple of hours one evening at least. But at least you will have the opportunity to test them out and go back for tweaks during the week. In your situation I think that is what I would do.
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Layne wrote:
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@under a new name, going to La Tania above Meribel next year. So it might be a bit time consuming getting up and down to the fitters in Meribel.

La Tania isn't above Meribel, it's around the corner in the Courcheval valley. I am sure there are decent boot fitters in La Tania. It will take up a couple of hours one evening at least. But at least you will have the opportunity to test them out and go back for tweaks during the week. In your situation I think that is what I would do.

Or get the free bus from La Tania to Courchevel 1650 and go to The Boot Lab.
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Thanks all. I've bitten the bullet and booked an appointment with Profeet for a Friday (never got a response from S4F when I messaged them for advice a while back and just not convenient for me!). Will pop out to Hemel for a few hours after to test them, and then if I need tweaks they can be done on the Saturday. That should set me up in a reasonably good place for La Tania, or any other sneaky long weekends I can fit in before then Laughing Laughing I'll let you all know how I get on in November...
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rjs wrote:
Or get the free bus from La Tania to Courchevel 1650 and go to The Boot Lab.

+1

Wish I'd seen this thread earlier but feel obliged to give a public recommendation to The Boot Lab in 1650 as it may help others.

All the LT seasonnaires I know go to The Boot Lab. I've had no end of problems with boots bought in the UK over the years but S4F (CEM on here) use them as a fitting/fix partner in resort. The Boot Lab have done several tweaks to my current pair (bought from S4F) and always with no hassle or question (or appointment, though I'd expect you'd need an appointment for a full fitting). AFAIK, they also have the reverse relationship - if you buy boots from The Boot Lab, CEM will tweak them for free in the UK.

It's on the bus route but it's also very easy to ski into - just dump/lock your skis in the ticket office and go down the escalator to the high street. The shop's diagonally opposite you (in the back of the New Generation ski school office) and it's also next door to a good bakery for a cheap lunch.

Ammo, IME, unless you've got very easy to fit feet, your chances of knowing if they work or not after a couple of hours in a snowdome are very low, especially if you have zipfits because they take days (or weeks, in my case) to bed in. Most of the tweaks done on my current boots were after several weeks of skiing, not a few hours. Being able to just wander into the Boot Lab is a massive benefit to buying from S4F.

Looking at Profeet's website, it looks like they will only do tweaks in their own store, with a receipt etc. Doesn't seem much use if you live in Dublin.
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@Ammo, if you need tweaks, getting fitted in London wouldnít be ideal.
Hubert in S&R (assuming heís still there) is a very good boot fitter, fitted my own and 2 others from my group last year after I got alot of recommendations online. Heís also skied at a high level himself and you can book specifically for him.
I donít think the snow dome for a few hours will tell you much, theyíll be a bit uncomfortable at the start
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