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Best Chains for Discovery Sport

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I'm driving to Les Gets in March and need snow chains for a Discovery Sport. What are your thoughts on the below chains, or alternatives, need to fit tyre size 245/45/R20?
  • Thule K-Summit XL
  • Weissenfels Clack & Go SUV

Thanks

Steve
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I have the Thule K-Summit XL for a Honda CRV which isn't permitted normal chains. Easy to fit after first fit (initially you have to adjust them to suit your tires) but never had to use them for real, I have heard seen some back reviews of ladder style snow chains and on some resort access roads in New Zealand I believe they are banned.

Carry to get out of trouble, wouldn't want to go any distance on them
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Do you have winter tyres? If you do then I'd forget chains. Conditions would have to be horrendous for a Disco 4x4 with winters to need chains.
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@snowsteve, For Easter I would buy snowsocks from Halfords who offer a no quibble returns policy if the product is in an 'as purchased condition' (the socks have a cable tie to seal the pack) return within 30 days of purchase for a full refund snowHead

Having used socks several times over Christmas and New Year I am a convert! Another bonus of socks that I hadn't realised, is that you can drive through tunnels on the tarmac with no problems, obviously keeping under the max speed for the socks, with chains they would have to come off before the tunnel and put back on, on the other side!
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@snowsteve If you already have winter tyres then these are superior to snow socks, so there wouldn't be any point in the socks. If this is the case, then the two chains you've identified (along with Spikes Spider Easy Alpine and a couple of others) are quite expensive but they will fit a much wider range of wheel/tyre sizes than cheaper chains. I wish I'd bought my Spike Spiders earlier as they would have fitted the last 3 cars I've had, rather than my ending-up buying cheaper ones that were specific to each size. They are also 'easy fit' types: we're talking about under a minute per wheel with this category as opposed to much longer with 'conventional' chains. However, I appreciate that if you already have winters on a 4x4 then the odds of needing chains may be so low that you opt for some cheap ones, given that you'll probably never need them.

Later in the season, you're much more likely to encounter thaw/freeze conditions, when the snow thaws in the day, gets the road wet, and then freezes overnight. This can make getting out of a car park or up a steep slope actually more difficult than if you were on snow in January. The only times I've actually needed chains has been to get out of an apartment basement car park and another year, up a steep slope from our accommodation.

If you don't have winter tyres, then we're into the whole winter tyres / socks / chains debate, which is already well-covered on other threads.
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@snowsteve, made 5 trips out to the Alps in a Disco Sport. Have some Michelin Easy Grip (ropes). I actually bought them for a previous Freelander, new vehicle has the same size tyres. Never actually had to use them on the DS (although we thought we were going to have to leaving Tignes in mid-Jan). In eight years of driving to the Alps twice a year in the Freelander only had to use them once and that was for about 60 meters to get out of a very snowbound unofficial car park, for which they proved very effective.
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I have the Weissenfells for our Discovery, which is shod in winter tyres.

Never needed them though

They were recommended due to being 9mm so no clearance issues.
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I have the Thules for my suv which has 21 inch wheels
Dead easy to put on
I’ve not used them in anger though
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They aren't banned on nz access roads, but they aren't worth using because they break - it's basically offroad rocky trails, doubt it would as much of an issue on a smoother surface.

Not sure what the clearance is on a disco sport but I've got "proper" diamond chains in a 7mm link, which work fine on my car which isn't supposed to be able to use chains, and they have held up fine with lots of use over the last three seasons. Worth checking out what the actual clearance behind the wheel is - I've found that quite often the manufacturers say no chains even when they can be fitted, but I guess that can end up being a warranty issue. Not a lot of choice for me, because access roads here in NZ are often limited to vehicles with chains, and I'm not going to sit in a car park at the bottom of the hill on a powder day, so prepared to take the punt on it.

https://www.veriga-lesce.com/chain/car-chains/
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Those saying; "have a discovery with snow tyres you'll not need chains"

Be careful as this is a "Discovery Sport" and not the rufty tufty "Discovery" that I suspect you're all thinking of, so not really any better than an X3, Evoque or any other soft roader!
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@marcellus, it has the same off-road "programmes" as the bigger Disco and from what I've seen are a lot more capable than most soft roaders.
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As people have said, no need for chains with winter tyres and a 4x4. Land Rover usually fit some kind of all weather tyre as standard. Check what you have on.
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The tyre size quoted seems to be the fattest option for that model and may well come with a “no chains” warning.

For the “best” solution consider getting some extra rims and winter tyres, and then look for chains to suit. The base model seems to have tyres 225 65 R17 which would leave room for hefty, 16mm, chains. Other advantages of going narrow would be a wider and cheaper choice of tyres, better snow grip, better resistance to aquaplaning, reduced fuel consumption and a more comfortable ride.
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no need for chains with winter tyres and a 4x4


To be clear, I've never had to use them. I still carry them as they are still legal requirement and I may need them one day - I wouldn't say 4*4 and winter tyres means you don't need them
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LaForet wrote:
@snowsteve If you already have winter tyres then these are superior to snow socks, so there wouldn't be any point in the socks. .


No they are not!
Le foret admitted in another thread that he'd never used socks, I have, I have also used winter tyres which will keep you going long after summer tyres have given up without the faf of putting chains or socks on.
The winter tyres on my van still spin quite easily on sheet ice, socks give much better grip on sheet ice or polished snow.

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tangowaggon wrote:
LaForet wrote:
@snowsteve If you already have winter tyres then these are superior to snow socks, so there wouldn't be any point in the socks. .


No they are not!
Le foret admitted in another thread that he'd never used socks, I have, I have also used winter tyres which will keep you going long after summer tyres have given up without the faf of putting chains or socks on. The winter tyres on my van still spin quite easily on sheet ice, socks give much better grip on sheet ice or polished snow.


Sorry, but I used to work for Pirelli, and the industry view is that snow socks are inferior compared to quality winter tyres, all other things being equal. I don't question your individual experience with specific tyres, socks, vehicle and conditions, but what I'm recommending to the OP is generic industry advice.

I can see that snow socks are a good 'insurance' for someone in the UK who is very unlikely to encounter snow on their summer tyres, but may sometimes be forced by work etc. to be away form home from time to time. They do work in making summers go some way to being as good as quality winters, but not all the way.

And no, I've never used socks - because I don't see them as a useful option given I have winters and chains.

For the OP, here's a chart that summarises what options cover what circumstances.



And if you're cross-referencing what I've posted on other threads, then you'll know that my view is that the benefit of going to the Alps for me is that it swings the argument in favour of going for a set of winter wheels and winter tyres, plus chains. There is an argument for doing this just for UK driving, but the cost/benefit/risk is often hard to judge and it's a pricey option, especially if you can leave the car at home if weather is bad. But once you're taking your vehicle to the Alps each year, for me, it's a no-brainer: you then get the benefit of winter tyres for your UK winter driving as well.

I think the OP's question still remains, whatever you opt for (summers, winters, socks, EazyGrip etc.), because, as the chart indicates, chains cover the 'extreme' end of the winter spectrum. If you get a separate set of winter wheels and tyres, you'll end up with more choice of what chains to fit. If you stick with your fat summer wheels then the choice of chain is more limited. Front-fitting ones like those the OP has identified (and my Spike Spider Easy Alpines) have three virtues 1. They are very easy to fit (once adjusted for your specific size) 2. They fit a wider range of sizes (so are more likely to be transferable to your next/other car) and 3. They will fit 'fat' summer wheel sizes without damaging the anterior components (suspension, pipes, steering etc.). But I can see that faced with, say, a £250 premium for these over more conventional chains, you might decide that their advantages aren't worth the extra cost.
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LaForet - excellent info. Smile
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Thanks all for your advice, very helpful.

I have all weather tyres, and not getting spare rims/winter tyres, so need either socks or chains.

From @LaForet's, graphic I don't think socks are going to be useful, so then it would be chains.

And from the various other comments I'm understanding there's not much between the Thule K-Summit XL, the Weissenfels Clack & Go SUV and the Spike Spider Easy Alpines, so I guess I'll go for whichever one of those I can get for the best price.

Steve
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@LaForet ... what your chart convinces me is that All-seasons tyres + a set of chains is a good option for a UK based 4WD (X3) driver who 1) may make a once a year visit to the Alpes 2) cant justify the cost or space of an extra ret of wheels and tyres 3) never gets round to getting the local garage to change the tyres. All-seasons covers the most likely possibilities and I guess will keep the insurers on side when you hight not if you have the wrong tyres on in the event of an accident.

Incidentally, I tried to convince my local BMW garage to fit Michelin Cross Climates on my new X3 from the outset, but they would have none of it, so I will probably swap these on next Autumn, and save the OEM tyres to go back on at the end of the contract.
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@DavidYacht, thing is on modern X3s the tyres last for miles..... just changing our first set at 30,000 and probably got only 10k until end of lease!
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Just about to chop in my present X3, and the dealer expressed concern about the wear on the winter tyres, so have swapped original summer tyres on for the p/ex. Just had a look at the Auto Bild reviews on the Cross Climate + which are pretty impressive, and certainly good for a British winter if you live in a remote area.
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I've for the cross-climates on my car (Octavia) and they're fab - really good in the snow and colder conditions and cope well enough rest of the year when I'm "pushing on" as they say
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We have winter tyres on our Disco sport HSE luxury. Vredestein-but don’t ask me the exact spec. They have served us really well this winter with all of the snow in France. Also have the Thule chains which have not been used,and which we have never felt the slightest urge or need to put them on.
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