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Finally took the plunge, went had one fitted and purchased. Yet to ski in it, but my first thoughts are it is incredible. Nowhere near as much faffing to put it on as I thought it would be, and boy it takes the weight off your knees. Really cannot wait to hit the hills in it. Feels like cheating.
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Looking forward to your report on these - I have suffered a ruptured ACL in my left knee twice - yes, managed to rupture my repair! Also had numerous meniscus and cartilage tears in both knee and have been under the knife a total of 4 times for this in each knee. Suffice to say I will not be beaten by this and intend to ski on until I physically can't walk anymore or I knacker the impending titanium that will be replacing my knee joint in a few years time!

Can knee braces be worn in conjunction with the springs, or is there insufficient room for them?


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@OuchMyKnee, apt username!

Yes there is room for braces as well. Having played with them for a while It's really weird when you deactivate the spring and your body weight goes back on your knees.
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welcome to the club @scotspikey,
It is like cheating Smile

If you have the time and the inclination spend some time practicing getting them on and off and your pants on and connecting to your boots.

I've got it down to between 5 and 10 mins now ... those minutes matter when you have promised everyone to be down at the boot room at 9am.

Or sneak down the hotel stairs carpet when you know your not supposed to have your boots on.

Here is my real tip though ....
take some sticky back felt with you on your holiday.
I found a bit of chaffing coming from just the triggers, but some sticky felt mods have sorted that.

I've put some tape on mine to easily tell port from starboard.
(managed to fit them on the wrong legs once)

I'd like to work out a way "blanking" the Velcro to stop it attaching to something else.

@OuchMyKnee, I don't see any reason why a brace cant be worn with them. I haven't tried it but I can't see a problem.

I admire your continued dedication to our crazy pastime slithering down the mountains, that's how I feel. And welcome to the forum.

I'd like to be able to get some good ski pants that zipped up all the way up the outside to the waist for less phaafability. This would save so much
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I wear mine with a big CTi brace..took a bit if fiddling wgen it was fitted but is fine
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@scotspikey, welcome to the Mojo Club.
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Well, after saying yes/no/yes/no/yes/no/yes/no on and off for the past 2 years as to whether I should buy some of these, I called up the gents at Snow Togs in Southampton with my questions regarding the wearing of hinged knee braces in conjunction with the Ski Mojo rig and was told to pop over and try them out.

I tried them and unfortunately, as a result am now £480 lighter in the pocket.... wow, Wow, WOW!

The gear was set up in the shop for me and as soon as I engaged the springs I gingerly went to squat to feel the effects and knew immediately that as soon as I get used to them there will be no turning back. I haven't managed to squat that deep in 20+ years, there was no pain and the wasted quadricep on my left leg felt as if I had been hitting the weights gym for the past couple of years.

Obviously the proof will be in the pudding once I hit the French Alps in 2 weeks time, but have not felt this confident in a long time... report will follow!

Thanks all for the advice and the gentle nudge into enquiring about them!

Andy
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@OuchMyKnee, make sure your ski pants will go over all the gubbins....
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@holidayloverxx, ... if not, naked skiing (now that hasn't been done for quite a few years!!!)
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I have just started wearing a mojo in conjunction with my Ossur CTi knee brace. It is a b****r to get them to work together, and you do need salopettes with a certain amount of room in them, but it is possible. The only way I can get them on properly and connected is as follows.
1) without salopettes on, put on ski boots and brace.
2) fit the mojo, ensuring that the hinge on the mojo sits behind the knee brace hinge. Get the whole thing set up, checking that they click into the lock position as intended, and then tighten up and note the scale markings on the rods.
3) Remove mojo, remove boots
4) Put on your salopettes, put your boots back on.
5)Keep the salopettes rolled down to between you knees and the ankles
6) From the top, 'thread' the mojo inside your salopettes, so that you can connect it to your boot, and repeat for the other leg.
7) Fasten the velcro straps on the mojo below and above the knee, and then fit the rest of the contraption.
8 ) Pull up your salopettes!
Obviously steps 1-3 only need doing the once.
Works for me, and I guess whether or not you need to follow this rigmarole depends on how bulky your brace is.

I have used it this way for a week and it does help take the pressure off the knees a bit. I have a totally ruptured ACL, and have had no issues with it. But then I haven't fallen over yet - that will be the big test. I don't find the mojo any kind of panacea, it doesn't help me ski any better (unfortunately), but I reckon I will definitely continue to use it. The only issues I've had with it are that the rods can get disconnected from the stud on the boots on occasion and it can be tricky to reconnect, especially on the leg with the brace, and the studs themselves can become unscrewed from the boot during skiing, so I need the hand tighten them often during the day. I should probably put some loctite on them.

Good luck!
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@noggy, i have an ossur CTi. Fitting was similar but but the hinge on the mojo is pretty much aligned with the brace hinge..it was a faff but now the rods are in the right place its job done they dont get touched.

Putting on is easy. Put brace on then socks and leggings. Step into mojo and fasten the straps above and below the knee then fasten belt...it easier to take it off in one piece so you can just step into it. Put sallies on and roll up the legs. Put boots on and attach mojos...fiddly...roll down sallies.
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That's how I used to try, but once strapped up I could never get the rod attached to the boot stud. If the mojo hinge is next to the cti hinge the whole thing is just too ridiculously wide, for me, and the angle that the lower rod makes with the boot is just not optimal - for me.
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@noggy, yeah...my pants are pretty baggy. I dont really want to sit in the boot room with my pants down... Laughing
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@holidayloverxx, ! Yeah, well. I lost all remnants of pride many years ago Embarassed
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First day in the dolomites wearing the mojo. What a difference, I tried a run with it off and my knees were screaming at me. Without it I could not carry on skiing much longer. Zero thigh burn as well. Really, really impressed. Sure it cost a lot, but if I start dividing days skied by it, in a couple of years it will seem a bargain.
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I bought some for my wife and she has a bit of a love / hate relationship with them. She doesn't like the faff, particularly the hip/waist strap, occasionally gets painful rubs from velcro, had to buy different ski pants etc.
But, and it is a massive but, she can ski nearly every day of a holiday rather than the odd morning then returning to the flat to bury her knees in frozen peas.
Given that they are a bargain at £480
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How do they work exactly?
I have congenital patella dislocation. Because of this, I have very little quad strength.
If I bend at the knee to much I am unable to stand back up using the strength from that leg, so my other leg does all the work.
Wondering if it would be suitable for me.
Oh & I snowboard, not Ski.

Currently doing Kaatsu with an NHS Physio is trying to build more muscle, but I know it wont help my knee problem, but should with balance.
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@Mr.Egg,
http://youtube.com/v/xrOkoWYCDTA Wear ski pants on the top, thin base layer underneath
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@Frosty the Snowman,

I saw that one earlier. I have no idea what he is saying though. He implies by bending it straightens under its own energy.
How does it work?
Does the spring bend & then straighten under its own power?
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@Mr.Egg, I have no idea what he is saying, but you can see the physical apsect of the product and where it fastens to your boots. As you sink and bend the knees there is a spring that takes some of your weight. Because the hinge in the Mojo is centred at the knee it has the effect that it either makes your knees feel stronger, or it makes you feel lighter.... take yer pick. That is it really.

Yes there is a bit of morning and toilet faff, but they are utterly brilliant in my view.

As you say, with many chronic knee conditions the muscle strength can disappear very quickly and rehab can be painful, and in some case damaging. If you suffer from knee pain when the knee is bent and under load, then it reduces the load.....and pain and fatigue.

I also have an E-MTB Laughing Laughing Laughing

It isn't just knees, they would also hugely help knackered hips.
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Looks interesting and I've always wondered if it would be good for any skier. Do any of you guys use it for performance without having any knee problems? Apart from the cost and faff of fitting, are there any disadvantages in use?
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@uktrailmonster, Hmmm, could try that, but the boots may damage the bedroom carpet Shocked The only disadvantage I can think of is that it would make doing a step turn, jump turn, jump, or indeed any movement that required bending an unweighted leg, quite tricky, It would require significant hamstring activity. Does that make sense?
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Frosty the Snowman wrote:
@Mr.Egg, I have no idea what he is saying, but you can see the physical apsect of the product and where it fastens to your boots. As you sink and bend the knees there is a spring that takes some of your weight. Because the hinge in the Mojo is centred at the knee it has the effect that it either makes your knees feel stronger, or it makes you feel lighter.... take yer pick. That is it really.

Yes there is a bit of morning and toilet faff, but they are utterly brilliant in my view.

As you say, with many chronic knee conditions the muscle strength can disappear very quickly and rehab can be painful, and in some case damaging. If you suffer from knee pain when the knee is bent and under load, then it reduces the load.....and pain and fatigue.

I also have an E-MTB Laughing Laughing Laughing

It isn't just knees, they would also hugely help knackered hips.


I think I will to try speak to them to see if I can somehow try one.
Toilet faff shouldnt be an issue... I already wear one-piece base layer & bib pants!
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Frosty the Snowman wrote:
@uktrailmonster, Hmmm, could try that, but the boots may damage the bedroom carpet Shocked The only disadvantage I can think of is that it would make doing a step turn, jump turn, jump, or indeed any movement that required bending an unweighted leg, quite tricky, It would require significant hamstring activity. Does that make sense?


I think I see what you mean. That could potentially be an issue for me in certain situations. I'm probably not ready for one yet as thankfully my knees are still strong, but there are certainly times when my legs suffer from general fatigue and I wonder if the mojo would help. If I ever get chance to try one, I would be very curious to see how it feels.
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@uktrailmonster, basically the mojo is a spring that wants to make your leg be straight, not bent
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