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Austria: Saalbach Hinterglemm Leogang Fieberbrunn 2017/18

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The Ski Circus opened (more) today and -wow- what a day: blue skies, sun, and great snow. A friend and I started out from Leogang, skied a little there. One improvement there is that the first section of the run from beside the Asitzbräu to the bottom station of the Asitzgipfel chairlift, below the Chicken Man, has been doubled in width by blasting away a bit of the hill. And today there were none of the usual moguls, though I don't suppose it will stay that way Laughing

Then we moved over to Saalbach and enjoyed two runs on the piste beside the Schönleiten gondola. The Kohlmais area wasn't open, so we took the bus from the Schönleiten to the Schattberg. There I had my only fall of the day - on the escalator in the Schattberg gondola building, not having noticed that I had reached the top as I looked back to check the state of the Schattberg piste Embarassed However, being much practised elsewhere, I survived that and we had a great run over to Hinterglemm. We lunched at the Breitfussalm and had two runs down the Zwölferkogel. Then it was back to the Schattberg, where we downloaded from the middle station of the gondola.

After that we worked our way back to the Leogang side (taking the bus again to the Schönleiten gondola), in time for hot chocolate at the Alte Schmiede. All in all a great day.

Once I get a router working again and have normal Internet access, I'll probably add some photos.


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Yep it was stunning! I arrived in Leogang this afternoon to sun, great snow and some fresh turns. The valley run isn't open back to Leogang but it was worth the combat skiing at the bottom for the powder at the top.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcKqErujPW8/
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@espri, @leggyblonde, lucky bugs!! Looks like one of the best opening weeks in years, typically the first time in years we won't be there, or in Gasteintal area,in the week before Chrimbo.
If it's half as good as it looks on Bergfex then...
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All things being equal whats the thinking about ski-ing Christmas week in Saalbach......worth a punt?
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@RetroBod, That’s putting it mildly! The lift company says that the whole system will be running by 7th December, and conditions are clearly fabulous!
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Now that I have some Internet access again here are some photos from yesterday.

A view from the top of the Asitzbahn gondola early in the day...


The wider piste on the run down to the bottom of the Asitzgipfelbahn chairlift...


Skiing down under the Polten chairlift...




And on piste 6 skiing down to Hinterglemm from the Schattberg Westgipfel...


The Breitfussalm on the Zwölferkogel at Hinterglemm where we had lunch...


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Looks pretty much perfect @espri!
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Looks fantastic @espri!
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Yes, it was a great day.
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Pretty special out there today too on piste with some fluffy stuff still to be found off piste on North facing aspects
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A bit of news today from friends in Saalbach: "The snow is amazing although it is dumping today...We went to the opening of a Tapas and Apres ski bar last night. It's fab. It is below Mango's. So cosy, reminds me of the Piccadilly in St Anton."
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Was in the Ski Circus again today but started this time in Fieberbrunn. And that's where we finished too, for annoyingly the link to Hinterglemm, which had been open last Friday, wasn't open today (and the display said not from 4th-6th Dec). After the perfect weather on Friday, today was more disappointing, overcast and snowing. Disappointing too was that not much of the Fieberbrunn uplift was running, basically just the Doischberg, Lärchfilzen and Reckmoos Nord lifts.

However, on the positive side, the snow was good. We only had one run on the Reckmoos Nord, were the light was difficult up the top. We spent most of our time on the pistes at the other two lifts but, when snow was falling more heavily after lunch, stopped skiing about 13:30. It wasn't a great day for photography but here's one of the other lift we used, the Maiskopf T-bar, the link to take you back to the Doischberg...

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Thanks for the updates espri & Richard

40cm new snow reported at top and 20cm at village level. More to come Friday as well!!
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It was mega out there today. Perfect packed powder on piste and knee to thigh off piste at Leogang and Fieberbrunn. Slightly less at Saalbach apparently.
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@leggyblonde, Try up at the end of the valley beyond Hochalm - Spieleck chair and then along the ridge.
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@tatmanstours, Next time! Im back back in the office today but can't believe how lucky we got.
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@leggyblonde, even last year - supposedly the worst in living memory for early season conditions - we had some of the best on- piste skiing I’ve ever experienced in mid-December. However you certainly were lucky with all that off- piste powder. Much more to discover I’m sure!
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However you certainly were lucky with all that off- piste powder. Much more to discover I’m sure!

And here's a photo of me trying to discover a ski which had gone its own way on the Asitz in Leogang...



Luckily, it did turn upgain, so nothing stopped us having another great bluebird day in Leogang. Even discovering that the link to Saalbach wasn't open hardly spoiled things, for there was enough to do in Leogang, including half a dozen runs down to the valley - here's our skiline for the day...



The link to Saalbach will be open tomorrow, Thursday - we hadn't realised that the information about the link which we had seen in Fieberbrunn on Monday, i.e. that the link was closed from 4th-6th December, applied to the Leogang-Saalbach link too.

This was the view looking up the Asitz from the Asitzgipfel chairlift...



And the Leoganger Steinberge in the evening light as we skied down for the last time...

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Looks idyllic! Annoyed that I'm not there (yet!) Sad
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for Saturday to Saturday travel, is the drive from Salzburg airport materially less stressful than the drive from Munich airport?

How about trains from either? how close can I get, how long does it take, and how much hassle, and then what are my logistics on getting from the station to Saalbach (or Hinterglemm)?

With much of the western US dry and looking to stay that way for the forecastable future, I'm daydreaming of redirecting my early January trip from Vail to Austria.
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@mr. mike, flying to Salzburg is by the best option. From there it’s not much more than an hour by road to Saalbach. Most people either get the public bus, which leaves every hour from outside the airport terminal (18 euros and 3 hours to Saalbach), or they get the 8 times a day shuttle service (www.holiday-shuttle.at), which costs 44 euros (84 euros round trip) and takes usually about 1 hour 15 mins.
The usual method of transferring from Munich Airport is either to hire a car (2 1/2 - 3 hours drive) or take a train to Zell am See. The times and prices of trains can be researched on www.oebb.at or www.db.de
The rail service is very good - regular, efficient and relatively inexpensive.
From Zell am See, there is a public bus every couple of hours from outside the railway station to Saalbach ; however the drivers seem to have some kind of unofficial arrangement with the local taxi drivers to pull away just as people are emerging from the station! A taxi will cost about 40 euros, and there are usually a few equally pissed off people, who have been left in the same position and are willing to share a taxi.


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@tatmanstours, thanks. Obviously a bit easier to fly into Munich than Salzburg from the US, but I'll balance that against the easier post-arrival logistics and evaluate if I am able to pull it off.
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@mr. mike, Don't be put off by flying into Munich - plenty of people do it.
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Had another great day skiing the Ski Circus on Thursday and where able to ski a full anticlockwise circuit, starting from Leogang. Virtually everything was open, the only restrictions I noticed were that the Spieleck lift, the far corner (Zehner 6er lift) and piste 15 on the Zwölferkogel and the Zwölfer Nord and lower section of the Schattberg pistes were closed. The Jausern run, 2b, was open and in good condition.
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Can anyone tell me if the Saalbach area ski paas covers you for Fieberbrunn? Also I seem to remember being able to ski on the lift pass on the Saturday afternoon of arrival......does this still.happen?
Looking forward to Christmas in Saalbach. Yeh!!
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@RetroBod, yes to both. snowHead
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@hammerite, whoooooooohoooo even more excited. Can hardly contain myself!!
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@tatmanstours, surprisingly, flights to Salzburg not too bad on either logistics or price. 3 stops vs. 2 because no non-stops from anywhere in the US, but total air travel time only a little more and overall price comparable. Balanced vs. shorter ground transfer and, more importantly, ability to avoid a long drive jet lagged, and Salzburg is the clear winner right now. Very attractive flight options into Turin for the time frame I'm thinking right now too and big snowfalls forecast in southern French alps next few days, however...
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Will the snow parks be open Christmas week?
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@RetroBod, I would be surprised if they're not; can't think of any reason why they wouldn't be.
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conditions seem quite good looking at webcams, but website shows no skitours open (0/11), only 26 of 42 red runs and 44/56 blue. Why are so many runs closed?
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@mr. mike, Too much snow? Puzzled wink Leaving for Saalbach tomorrow so will be able to report back.
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@mr. mike, it's very early in the season. It's most likely that not everything is open as it's just not worth it. Pisteing runs and manning the lifts costs money and there probably isn't the volume of skiers to make it worth their while. Check out what's open at weekends or Christmas week, that's when everything is most likely to be open.
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@hammerite, I'd be surprised if it's not all up and running by next weekend. The lift company said that it would be by 9th December. Last year (obviously mainly artificial snow) over half of the area was open by 10th Dec and, to my recollection, practically all of it a week later. However you are almost certainly right about the numbers - no point in opening and maintaining loads of runs if there's no one on them.
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@tatmanstours, have a fantastic season. No Christmas trip for us this year. Half term (Schladming) and hopefully Easter (not sure where yet but Saalbach is a strong possibility!).
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@hammerite, Thanks - really looking forward to it. Let me know if we can help re Easter (17th March onwards available).
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