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@davidof, thank you for sharing that - I actually dreamt about this last night! Not exactly (as dreams don't work that way) but was having dreams about various scenarios relating to not having done stuff I needed to do and having left it too late to tell my husband so he could help... you don't need to be Freud to work that one out!

Your input to this thread has been hugely helpful and so I really, really don't want to deter you or offpisteing skiing from posting all you can here because it has already really helped me (and no doubt others) so much, so please carry on as I would happily and gratefully take more advice/relaying of experience if you have it... but I woke up this morning and had to remind myself of what I've already alluded to in this thread: I've got loads on right now of a lasting and important nature and I cannot let this process take over my (generally very happy) life, which it suddenly started to feel like it was doing! If it doesn't work, then it doesn't work - the sky will not fall in, I have plenty of international work opportunities, and if my husband gets accepted (and it would really say something a bit mad about the process if he didn't), then we can take it from there. I guess I am very lucky to be in that position, because my future prosperity does't swing on this decision.
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davidof wrote:
The Gendarmes I had come to my house were moderately unpleasant. They asked to see my payslips and mocked my salary, which is about average for the private sector. I guess civil servants are pretty well paid these days. I won't go into the rest but be prepared for a grilling.


The police come to your house while you are in the process of applying for citizenship?

We didnít experience anything like that in Sweden. Online application for the family, reasonable cost, no tests of any sort, Swedish citizenship a few months later.
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Themasterpiece wrote:


We didnít experience anything like that in Sweden. Online application for the family, reasonable cost, no tests of any sort, Swedish citizenship a few months later.


Doesn't surprise me with Sweden.

The police are probably too busy with all the rapes and shootings to have time to make house calls.
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davidof wrote:
The Gendarmes I had come to my house were moderately unpleasant. They asked to see my payslips and mocked my salary, which is about average for the private sector. I guess civil servants are pretty well paid these days. I won't go into the rest but be prepared for a grilling.

Other than Tax, Salaries and criminal records, did the Gendarmes ask to see your driving licenses to see if you had changed them into French ones.
( I know I need to do this to be a good citizen but I fear they have kept a record of my endorsable offences, waiting for the day I change, and when I get my new license in the post it will come minus 8 points Sad )
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
@WindOfChange, i would not talk about that on a public forum
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WindOfChange wrote:

Other than Tax, Salaries and criminal records, did the Gendarmes ask to see your driving licenses to see if you had changed them into French ones.
( I know I need to do this to be a good citizen but I fear they have kept a record of my endorsable offences, waiting for the day I change, and when I get my new license in the post it will come minus 8 points Sad )


No, but it is not a legal requirement unless you have any tickets but it might be a sign of "integration" I agree.

They didn't ask about criminal records because I've been in France for more than 10 years so no need.
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stanton wrote:
@WindOfChange, i would not talk about that on a public forum

Its on record anyway. If the Gendarmes keep records , and they are applied retrospectively, then it'll happen anyway, whether I mention it or not.

The only thing which links to me to the most recent offence is my old address is on the carte grise, which is managed by the prefecture - not the Gendarmerie.
But that does not tie up to a license. The offence which was a stitch-up by the way - I was happily overtaking a line of slow moving cars on my motorbike, when an unmarked Gendarme car coming the other way suddenly slapped a blue light on the roof, pulled a u-eee, and hooned back down the wrong side of the road to nick me.

These were from the caserne of Bons en Chablais, and my local Gendarmerie is Morzine, so was wondering how (if at all) it all ties up.

I was just wondering if anyone had changed their license, and found that old French motoring offences were retrospectively applied upon issuance of the license.

@davidof I have been here 13 years, so from what you say, the CRB checks are only applicable if you have been here less than 10? Are there any other things where the longevity of residence will count in ones favour.
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stanton wrote:
@brexittoexbritAT, thanks for coming here. I found your blog through an expats Swiss site


Thanks for letting me know how you found it - interesting to see how people came across the blog. I felt compelled to start it because I was fed up with a lot of the circulating "half truths" that a lot of people circulated in Vienna, and among some of the "British in Austria" style facebook groups.
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Interesting to see people mentioned about the integration aspect in other countries - this plays a big role in naturalising in Austria, particularly if you are trying to pursue the 6-year residence route with B2. Sports clubs and clubs and associations are accepted - provided that they are registered as Vereine.

When asked at my application appointment about how I would consider myself to be adequately integrated in Austria, I explained about my voluntary work when I arrived for a sports federation, including a lot of bureaucracy relating to dealing with regional sports bodies, in addition to explaining where I work and have worked and what I do (which instantly ticked some boxes).

If anyone is considering naturalisation, a committee position in an association, e.g. local sports club, voluntary fire brigade, any civic society in your village or town... is looked on quite favourably.
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skidipity wrote:

Just one warning - have you checked that Austrian law allows you to give people advice? I have no idea about Austria but I think that in some jurisdictions (I think the US is still one example), only qualified attorneys are permitted to provide immigration/nationality advice.


Fair enough question that - I sought advice from a lawyer on what was sensible and advisable to include and what not - his only caveat was about being careful about any post that could be considered/misconstrued as being a blatant Rechtsauslegung (interpretation of a provision within a law). I leave that kind of thing to jusline.at and similar sites, and for that reason I prefer to refer to items being covered in legal commentaries - or where in a specific law an issue is addressed (for the post on the Citizenship Act, I was careful to have it checked by two lawyer friends, and to refer to general sections rather than clauses within certain provisions), with a link to the Rechtinformationsservice des Bundes (www.ris.bka.gv.at) where people can access the consolidated (and therefore authoritative) version of the law. A lot of the posts at the moment focus on the "how to" about getting the necessary paperwork (one of the biggest challenges).
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WindOfChange wrote:


@davidof I have been here 13 years, so from what you say, the CRB checks are only applicable if you have been here less than 10? Are there any other things where the longevity of residence will count in ones favour.


Yes for the checks.

Not sure longevity of residence counts for much... maybe it is a negative.

I would follow what Brexit AT says: join some local club / assocs and try to help out. I know it is hard if you are working but you really need to show you are not some "Little Englander" type.

For the police visit, hide the Lady Di mug, UK flag cushions and such like.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
@brexittoexbritAT,

I have a British passport but have been living in Vienna for over 17 years. I've always been employed by the same Austrian Company in that time - do you know if this means I just apply without having to jump through hoops? (bypassing the language test etc).

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Long residence in Austria - A person who has lived in Austria for 30 years, or 15 years in cases of 'sustained personal and occupational integration', is entitled to grant of Austrian citizenship.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_nationality_law
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So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
UK Expats ..Your Government is hangin you out to dry Shocked Shocked
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
stanton wrote:
UK Expats ..Your Government is hangin you out to dry Shocked Shocked


The electorate hung us out to dry. I seem to remember that the government were against all this.
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 Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
telford_mike wrote:
stanton wrote:
UK Expats ..Your Government is hangin you out to dry Shocked Shocked


The electorate hung us out to dry. I seem to remember that the government were against all this.


Mmm, sadly it was Dave and his shower who hung us out to dry. He didn't need to call the referendum for the country's sake, he only acted for party political reasons.

CG
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DB wrote:
@brexittoexbritAT,

I have a British passport but have been living in Vienna for over 17 years. I've always been employed by the same Austrian Company in that time - do you know if this means I just apply without having to jump through hoops? (bypassing the language test etc).

Quote:
Long residence in Austria - A person who has lived in Austria for 30 years, or 15 years in cases of 'sustained personal and occupational integration', is entitled to grant of Austrian citizenship.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_nationality_law


Hi DB,

You are in a similar boat to me - I arrived in Vienna in 2000. From my experience last week with MA35, where I had my application appointment (blogged here: http://www.frombrexittoexbrit.com/2017/11/01/25-october-application-appointment/) you have like I did a Rechtsanspruch (and this will bring the fee down a bit). The case officer, have said my degree in German was sufficient briefly requested that I would need to do a B1 German test, until she re-read my CV and realised that I would not be working for the government as a legal translator without C2+!

I'll PM you an e-mail address and a mobile no. in case you want a chat about it.

Cheers, B2EAT
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Latest feedback I've got from friends applying for French nationality is it is around a year's delay after you've passed through the initial interview process to get an appointment with the prefecture. Normally the language test is ok after the first interview, no need to re-take.
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