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I've been scouring eBay for an appropriate board for a DIY splitboard project for a few weeks now. I'm currently looking at this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222652458752
Although he states it's over 5 years old I'm suspecting it's between 10-15 years old, but it's a stiff as hell boarder-X board...ideal for cutting in half and retaining stiffness?
Although the board is cheap (I'd hope to offer £50 and get it) the DIY fittings kit is around £150 which once fitted doesn't easily come apart to use again on another board, so I'd like to get it right first time.

So any suggestions? Budgeting £200 for board and DIY kit plus another £100 for some form of bindings.
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I'll be very interested in following this. I have an old stiff Nitro Supra Team which I was thinking of splitting. I'm not sure that the economics quite works though for me, you have to add skins to your budget and so it all becomes quite an expensive project for a 2 week a year snowboarder!
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Which split kit are you looking at?
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Ummm didn't Palmers have a honeycomb core or at least in tip n tail. Like a foam core wouldn't think they'd be great to bandsaw you want boring old wood core.
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Richard_Sideways wrote:
Which split kit are you looking at?


The voile kit, main reason is that I'm getting the impression that in the short term I can just use regular bindings whilst it gets tested out on local hills before I shell out another £100-£200 on split specific bindings.

https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-GB/product/Voile-Split+Kit+DIY-225852/?varid=301267637&gclid=CjwKCAjwu7LOBRBZEiwAQtfbGAZB6YgVSxuLiuI9z8Gqy3ghkbtDT0jSryKAXb3ZkoSlFiiVV7NVOBoCAGsQAvD_BwE&adword=Google%2FUK%2FPRODUKTERWEITERUNG%2FVoil%C3%A9%2F301267637&_$ja=tsid%3A46445&cr=GBP
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
Ummm didn't Palmers have a honeycomb core or at least in tip n tail. Like a foam core wouldn't think they'd be great to bandsaw you want boring old wood core.


Yep, it is only tip and tail on this board though. Deep down I realised that it probably wasn't suitable but anything I see which I think is perfect is either out of my budget...

...or a Burton. Now I'm presuming because of Burton's unique mounting system for bindings being set along the centre of a board I'm not going to be able to cut it in half? Likewise with the older diamond mounting pattern? Shame cause a Burton Custom went for £60 the other day!
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I've got an old Burton Triumph that I was toying with the idea of splitting. Its got the diamond pattern holes too, but seeing you're going to be cutting the centre line anyway it probably wouldn't be an issue to remove the centre line inserts or just cut through them with a grinder.

Having a quick look of tat-bazaar and theres a Ride Yukon going for pocketchange - its a big stick at 168 but you could sell the flow bindings on again for the same as you'd pay for the board most likely.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yukon-Snowboard/172877398146?hash=item28404bc082%3Ag%3AvgQAAOSwAFBZrRFw
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Richard_Sideways wrote:
I've got an old Burton Triumph that I was toying with the idea of splitting. Its got the diamond pattern holes too, but seeing you're going to be cutting the centre line anyway it probably wouldn't be an issue to remove the centre line inserts or just cut through them with a grinder.


I guess you could but I'm nervous enough about cutting it in one go!

Richard_Sideways wrote:
Having a quick look of tat-bazaar and theres a Ride Yukon going for pocketchange - its a big stick at 168 but you could sell the flow bindings on again for the same as you'd pay for the board most likely.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yukon-Snowboard/172877398146?hash=item28404bc082%3Ag%3AvgQAAOSwAFBZrRFw


Yeah, an ideal board. At that price it's just worth the practice of cutting a board in half. However 168 is just on the long side (I'd still hope to pop the odd 180 even though I'm on a splitboard) and it's a 3-4 hour round trip to pick it up!?!

Anyone have a possible board let me know, until then I'll keep scouring eBay!
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Richard_Sideways wrote:
I've got an old Burton Triumph that I was toying with the idea of splitting. Its got the diamond pattern holes too, but seeing you're going to be cutting the centre line anyway it probably wouldn't be an issue to remove the centre line inserts or just cut through them with a grinder.

Having a quick look of tat-bazaar and theres a Ride Yukon going for pocketchange - its a big stick at 168 but you could sell the flow bindings on again for the same as you'd pay for the board most likely.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yukon-Snowboard/172877398146?hash=item28404bc082%3Ag%3AvgQAAOSwAFBZrRFw


Feck someone got a deal . All time classic. Will have my at Hemel for anyone man enough.
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If I'd been free this weekend to go get it, i'd have stuck a cheeky bid in on it myself.
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BCjohnny wrote:
It really doesn't work ......


Why?

I never mentioned this so maybe now's the time to. It would be used, should the chance arrive, predominantly in Wales in the Brecon Beacons and Snowdonia and possibly a handful of trips to Scotland/Peak District. Having hiked hills in boots before, the thought of gliding across instead of sinking with each step appeals. Also not carrying the weight of the board on your back, getting blown about, would be a bonus too!

Therefore shelling out £600-£800 on a split set-up to get up grass/mud/stone covered by an inch or two of snow seems crazy...£200-£300 on a diy set-up however!?!
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I think a diy project is great if you have
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manicpb wrote:
Why?


People I know have bought them with all the best intentions, but they usually get chucked at the back of the shed ..... too much faff.

One has taken his around the hotel car park to set it up etc ...... never been any further.

If you try to convert a standard board yourself you'd need to buy a stiffer board than you'd usually ride, sawing one in half affects the beam strength.

I'm not telling you not to do it, fill your boots ....... but IME they're a faddy waste of time for most people. Get some decent snow shoes and take your regular ride.

AAJMO
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BCjohnny wrote:
manicpb wrote:
Why?


People I know have bought them with all the best intentions, but they usually get chucked at the back of the shed ..... too much faff.

One has taken his around the hotel car park to set it up etc ...... never been any further.

If you try to convert a standard board yourself you'd need to buy a stiffer board than you'd usually ride, sawing one in half affects the beam strength.

I'm not telling you not to do it, fill your boots ....... but IME they're a faddy waste of time for most people. Get some decent snow shoes and take your regular ride.

AAJMO


Got to disagree, all the boarders I ski with have split boards, they all get used a lot. Some have them as their only board (terrible idea, everyone needs an expansive quiver).
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midgetbiker wrote:
BCjohnny wrote:
manicpb wrote:
Why?


People I know have bought them with all the best intentions, but they usually get chucked at the back of the shed ..... too much faff.

One has taken his around the hotel car park to set it up etc ...... never been any further.

If you try to convert a standard board yourself you'd need to buy a stiffer board than you'd usually ride, sawing one in half affects the beam strength.

I'm not telling you not to do it, fill your boots ....... but IME they're a faddy waste of time for most people. Get some decent snow shoes and take your regular ride.

AAJMO


Got to disagree, all the boarders I ski with have split boards, they all get used a lot. Some have them as their only board (terrible idea, everyone needs an expansive quiver).


Tbf, I think BCJohnny is not saying don't have one...more if your going to have one get a factory made one.

I'd buy a second hand factory split but they don't seem to come up to often.
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midgetbiker .......

People can do what they want for all I care, just expressing an informed opinion ...... I know a fair few people who have 'em, have an awful lot of dough tied up in 'em, and have either hardly ridden 'em or simply given up.

For the average tourist they're pure romance ...... for more hardcore riders who spend lots of time riding, maybe season out there and are tired of the norm then yes, they could make sense. As a percentage of UK riders I'd aver that's much less than one percent of travellers ........
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Opinion sucks !

If I was going for low depths like in the Uk I wouldnt want a reactive stiff plank as even when cut the high speed design is still very very wrong .
You want a lower speed control type of design so you can run low snow depths an can slalom in between rock frozen dirt and clumps of unknown... this is not a stiff plank or BX design .
Then as you hit real low zero depths at the runs end you can run over anything.... (with highly flexed lower legs that still work that is ?) ..... generally after a hike and run legs are now very likely shot away......and if so... you need to have equipment control more so than ever .

In low depths if you go down on rock.... bone will snap like a twig or at least its never going too end well (except for perhaps the welsh nurses at the hole in the wall.)
A plank or bx design will throw you further harder and accellerate like a bullet before your bone snapping airmiles accumulation .

All this is before you get to your junk wobbly raised binder setup, no inside steel edge or "any nose lenght at all on a bx stick" to ride over uk rubble ?

If the hole in the wall is still open in cardiff you wont make it ......your going in the front door with the ambulance if using a BX stick .

BCJonny is ultimately on track where the op could take the hard road its his choice .


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Right, I'm tempted by a 159 JP Walker forum board. It's a soft flex which worries me a tad but at £20 plus a 2 hour round trip I'm swaying towards picking it up and deciding if it's to soft once it's in my hands. Worst case it goes back on fleabay or I cut it in half and it goes in a skip!
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Theres a 161 Rome Anthem up too... no bids and £21
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rome-Anthem-161cm-Snowboard/172885202853?hash=item2840c2d7a5%3Ag%3AzrgAAOSwcqBZyLsF
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Richard_Sideways wrote:
Theres a 161 Rome Anthem up too... no bids and £21
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rome-Anthem-161cm-Snowboard/172885202853?hash=item2840c2d7a5%3Ag%3AzrgAAOSwcqBZyLsF


Again, pretty much perfect...but I'm just north of Birmingham!
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@manicpb, No friend in London who can pick it up? Everyone has a hipster mate who lives in Hackney, surely?
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These Hackney Hipsters ?

Do they look like Ned Kelly in riding pants ?
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Nah - they look like extras from Peaky Blinders. @manicpb, you going to either of the test days in Oct?
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@leggyblonde, I do (well not Hackney but other less hip parts of London) but would still struggle to find time to arrange a pick up off them.

@Richard_Sideways, I'd no plans to. Are boards on offer to demo and more to the point, splitboards? Not even checked dates as I presumed it was a ski demo! Could have childcare issues as my partner works weekends but will have a closer look.
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I've been trying to drum up a bit of an underground run-wot-ya-brung board test with people bringing along their spares to share.
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Richard_Sideways wrote:
I've been trying to drum up a bit of an underground run-wot-ya-brung board test with people bringing along their spares to share.


Shame that's at the southern one... As far as I know I'm the only boarder at the northern test.
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Never tried a DIY - I'd imagine you'd miss the inside edge.

Really can't reccommend using normal bindings on riser-plates - they just feel awful. Even if you do end up sinking a fair bit of cash into some proper bindings, at least you can sell them back.
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I split a 15 year old Burton board a couple of seasons ago and it works fine. Looks a mess having hacked through the centre inserts, but it certainly works ok, up- and downhill.

I did invest in Sparks straight away, planning to upgrade to a factory split at some point, so it wasn't really a cheap project but the old board kept the initial cost down.

I had taken up ski touring for a couple of years, but was never as good a skier as I was on the board and got sick of falling over in good snow so went for a splitty.
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would there be any merit in splitting a monoski?
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fraseruk wrote:

I did invest in Sparks straight away, planning to upgrade to a factory split at some point, so it wasn't really a cheap project but the old board kept the initial cost down.


I have voile pucks and a pair of old raidens. Did you upgrade to Spark Pucks plus Bindings? Any advantage of Spark Puck over Voile Puck?
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I've only spent one day on a board (that was enough) but watched my nephew take delivery of his new split board this year, if you are going budget rock hopper, would a couple of alloy bars be cheaper than the " proper" kit that holds the halves together? Held on the board either by some threaded inserts or, considering the diy nature of the beast, would it matter if you had countersunk machine screws through the base of the board?

I would use a staight edge clamped to the board as a saw guide, even then, a jig saw will struggle to cut a straight line, a fine tooth cicular saw may be better?
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I've not given up on this project yet and have bid on a few boards but will only pay top money for the perfect one.

I've had this in my watch list for a while and decided I definitely don't have the funds so am sharing incase any snowheads fancy it. From my research it's a cracking price and a quality board without the risks of diying it!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F232500824731
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@manicpb, I have zero idea about split boards, but I donít understand the issue with picking the board up. Why bother? For under a tenner you can get almost anything couriered to anywhere in the U.K.
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foxtrotzulu wrote:
@manicpb, I have zero idea about split boards, but I donít understand the issue with picking the board up. Why bother? For under a tenner you can get almost anything couriered to anywhere in the U.K.


It's the way eBay works. If a seller is willing to post the whole country is interested and will drunkenly bid on tat...if it states collection only anyone more than 25ish miles will usually pass on it and you grab yourself a bargain!

I've seen lib tech banana's (not appropriate for splitting but a common board pass through eBay) go for £50-£75 collection, yet the same year will fetch £150 if they post it!
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manicpb wrote:
foxtrotzulu wrote:
@manicpb, I have zero idea about split boards, but I donít understand the issue with picking the board up. Why bother? For under a tenner you can get almost anything couriered to anywhere in the U.K.


It's the way eBay works. If a seller is willing to post the whole country is interested and will drunkenly bid on tat...if it states collection only anyone more than 25ish miles will usually pass on it and you grab yourself a bargain!

I've seen lib tech banana's (not appropriate for splitting but a common board pass through eBay) go for £50-£75 collection, yet the same year will fetch £150 if they post it!


Fair point, but I suspect that many sellers would be happy to Ďpostí if you arrange everything and just send them the courier labels and a fiver to cover some bubble wrap etc. May be worth enquiring.
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