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Can anyone tell me of a drivable ski resort in Alps, (preferably France,) with a frozen lake ? Thus being an easy, enjoyable walk for first nordic walkers / possibly cross country ski.
Thanks
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Sorry meant first time nordic walkers , cross country skiers .
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Morzine - Avoriaz has a beautiful frozen lake at Lindarets (on a bus route)
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TIGNES has a large frozen lake ,but would not walk ,ski or even set foot on it ever
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Not in France, but Zell am See in Austria has a nice frozen lake.
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@Lisaw3663, please bear in mind that any lake that is secure enough to walk on will, inevitably, be pretty high. Although full-blown altitude sickness is unlikely, the effects can be unpleasant for the inexperienced, including dehydration and persistent headaches. Large flat areas can be exposed too if the weather gets windy. Also bear in mind that a white lake on a white background won't make for easy 'seeing'.

Plenty of places offer lower, tree-level nordic skiing tracks that are also open to pedestrians. Les Karellis immediately springs to mind as I have seen plenty of pedestrians there - and, come to think of it, very few nordic skiers! These would be white on black with, generally, few intersections.

There are lots of options to browse through in this handy - but slightly out of date now - brochure:
http://www.maurienne.fr/pdf/saison/1408621620_GuideNeige_2014bat.pdf
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Lisaw3663 wrote:
Can anyone tell me of a drivable ski resort in Alps, (preferably France,) with a frozen lake ? Thus being an easy, enjoyable walk for first nordic walkers / possibly cross country ski.
Thanks


Why do you want to cross country ski on a frozen lake?

St Moritz fits the bill though.



At Mottaret the cross country ski trails go around the lake. Ditto Tignes as mentioned above.

Of course if it is frozen without snow you'd be better with ice skates



In this case Negro Lake above Le Boréon
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@davidof, yep St. Moritz would be my suggestion. You can also do Skijöring there if staring down a horse's ass is your thing.
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davidof wrote:
Why do you want to cross country ski on a frozen lake?


Well, it ensures that it's pretty flat I guess.... Toofy Grin
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Lisaw3663 wrote:
Can anyone tell me of a drivable ski resort in Alps, (preferably France,) with a frozen lake ? Thus being an easy, enjoyable walk for first nordic walkers / possibly cross country ski.
Thanks


Tignes fits the bill.
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Alastair Pink wrote:
davidof wrote:
Why do you want to cross country ski on a frozen lake?


Well, it ensures that it's pretty flat I guess.... Toofy Grin

As someone who nordic ski a lot, I can tell you a frozen lake is not on the top of any nordic skier's list. But Alastair Pink, I know you knows about it quite well, you're just play devil's advocate...

The wide open space only ensures any snow fallen it are easily blown away by any wind, leaving a crusty snow surface at best. Rather difficult to control on flappy skinny skis.

Also, skiing on a large featureless area is quite demoralizing, with much less sense of progress.

That said, if the OP insists on a frozen lake AND good nordic skiing, St Morist is brilliant. The best part being many flat tracks sheltered in the woods that goes from one village to the next, with lovely huts serving hot soup (and cold beer) in between.

But maybe too long to drive to though.


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vipul wrote:
TIGNES has a large frozen lake ,but would not walk ,ski or even set foot on it ever


????? Why not, every time I've been to Tignes its perfectly fine, marked posts straight through the middle - hell they have dogs pulling people across it all the time....
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You could drive to almost any alpine ski resort, and many have lakes nearby, which may well be frozen if it's cold enough. A few have already been mentioned - Chamrousse, for instance, has its XC trails set around a lake which has always been frozen when I've been there in winter (though not necessarily frozen enough to walk/skate on, but I've not tested that.

Also, a lake is not really necessary for pretty walks/XC - commonly this type of activity is in wooded areas.
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Yellow Pyranha wrote:
Chamrousse, for instance, has its XC trails set around a lake which has always been frozen when I've been there in winter


The cross country trails are on the plateau d'Arselle, there isn't a lake there, well not since the last ice age anyway.

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davidof wrote:
Yellow Pyranha wrote:
Chamrousse . . .


there isn't a lake there, well not since the last ice age anyway.



Ah. Well, it looks a bit like a lake in winter (well, a frozen one covered in snow).
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Morzine, large lake in near Montriond (Lac de Montriond). If you want to try nordic walking/skiing then Praz de Lys/Sommand is 20mins drive from Morzine and is a popular nordic walking/skiing area for the French in that area, and has a small lake, and also has dog sledging you can try which always looks interesting. Relatively easy drive depending on your start point in the UK. Both close to Taninges which has a large lake which unlike those higher in the mountains doesn't get completely frozen over in winter.
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Yellow Pyranha wrote:
davidof wrote:
Yellow Pyranha wrote:
Chamrousse . . .


there isn't a lake there, well not since the last ice age anyway.



Ah. Well, it looks a bit like a lake in winter (well, a frozen one covered in snow).


It does indeed, with snow it looks much flatter than the picture above.

Did you walk up to Lac Achard? That is a nice frozen lake. I'm wondering whether you were thinking of that?

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@davidof, no, I was just wrong. My first skiing was XC there; definitely not been to lac Achard, but did head down towards lac Robert last time I skied there.
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Yellow Pyranha wrote:
@davidof, no, I was just wrong. My first skiing was XC there; definitely not been to lac Achard, but did head down towards lac Robert last time I skied there.


Well if you ever fancy a morning off if you are at Chamrousse, snowshoeing to lac Achard is a good plan. As you no doubt know you can dive under the lacs Roberts. Having watched Omen 2 it doesn't appeal to me.

Whenever I ski tour via the lac Roberts I never cross the ice but follow the shoreline.

The lac du Joux in the Jura freezes in a normal winter, you can ice skate on it.
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