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Apex / Dahu Ski Boots - any experiences?

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Hi all,

It's coming to the time to replace my well loved and long serving Salomon FX 10 (I think that's the model number) ski boots, which I bought with custom footbeds around 7 years ago. Although they have been spectacularly comfortable with being used approx. 3 trips per season for the last 7 years.the buckles have started to go and probably the right time to replace them.

I have read a lot on here about specialist boot fitters like solutions 4 feet and Profeet etc, and am pretty much set on visiting one of them for my next purchase just to make absolutely sure they are as comfortable as possible and last another 7 years. I have pretty normal feet (standard neutral running gait for example, so don't have any weird requirements), but just want to ensure I spend my £500 wisely!

However I have also read a small amount about the new Apex / Dahu systems which look to incorporate an outer stiff shell with a snowboard style inner boot for more comfort walking around etc.

I'm wondering of they offer anywhere near the control as a traditional shell ski boot? Are there any performance compromises to be made? Is the new system worth the outlay in terms of convenience for walking? Just any general opinions as to whether these systems will take on or not? Any opinions welcome.

Also on the professional boot fitters mentioned above (if I decide on traditional boots), does anyone know of a similar outfit in the North? I live near Manchester....happy to travel to London/Bicester to get it right, but obviously anywhere nearer would be a bonus.

Thanks Neil.
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May I politely bump this, if there's no experience of the new systems, does anyone have a view on standard boot fitters in the north west? I'm probably going to organise a visit to solutions for feet in Bicester otherwise, thanks, Neil.
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@neilkav, I tried the Dahu boots a couple of years ago. They were comfortable and much better than I had expected. They are certainly convenient and, whilst they will never make it on the race circuit, they are surprisingly capable. Probably better for dancing on tables, too 😃
They have sold a lot to race trainers who spend time standing around and clip on the outers just for moving around the mountain.

If you get the chance, try some. You may be pleasantly surprised.
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Hmmm sounds like maybe an option...cheers
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hi, my whole family have been on Dahu for 2 years now, (my friends since last year 4 mates), I was skiing an head raptors before great for ripping the slope but hard work by lunch time , I tried the dahu via some friends that live in cortina, and I sold straight away, I drive to the slope with them on, never get cold feet, you won't be racing in these things but for everyday skiing they are unbeatable!! they ski exactly like a traditional boot, ive went for the harder flex but Ive tried the medium and they are not at all floppy or soft!!
Down side .......direct from Dahu site they cost a massive €744!!!!!!!! that said i have a good contact and managed to get mine for €500.....in my opinion over 15 years skiing in the Alpes an the US the best money spent to date!!
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I tried that last year both, i felt not in control with them , i really wanted to like them, i might try there newer model again this year.
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I demoed the Apex. Frikkin awful. Worst alignment issues I've ever had, heavy as Motorhead, actually cramped my feet, Bsl like a oil tanker.

Wanted to like them but ultimately unskiable.
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Just bought the DAHU boots. Will be trying them next week.
Bought for £450 from the UK distributor www.skee-tex.co.uk
Will let you know what their like once I've tried them in anger.
Already more comfortable than my 15 year old boots.
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Don't have any experience of these new boot systems, but try Rivington Alpine (near Chorley) for boot fitting nearer to you.

They're well recommended on here and my wife and I got skis and more recently boots from them. We've always had great advice and service (and the boot fitting process takes quite a while, so plenty of coffee + biscuits too). You'll need to book an appointment for boot fitting as they're always busy.
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These are a real head turner, most shops haven't seen them in the flesh, let alone the other skiers.
Used them in Les Arcs 1800 and the resort and as a general on piste boot, they were great. travelling up in the transarc lift, wearing effectively snow board boots, they couldn't have been more comfortable. On Piste, they were great, comfortable, relatively easy to put on and off and even improved my posture. Off piste though, a different story. Too flexible for an average skier like me. I took a tumble and the snow forced its way through the holes in the shells, which lifted the boot up. Felt like I was skiing in high heels (never worn high heels but that what I imagine it was like, Honestly). I them was forced to take the shells off, empty the snow and refit. Next time I off piste, I will hire standard boots. For the average skier, I would recommend these boots.
Cant wait for the next season, sitting at an on piste café, drinking beer with comfortable boots on!!! oh and maybe do some skiing.
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For boot fitters in the NW I'd go with @FlatPack and recommend Rivington Alpine. Excellent advise and boot fitting for both me and my son.
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@commando, so if I understand it you've got boots that fail in one of the most basic parameters - skiing in snow. Why are you not returning them under Sale of Goods Act rather than contemplating renting real boots for actually skiing in snow?

If you want comfortable shoes for apres take some fold up trainers in your pocket.
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Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
@commando, so if I understand it you've got boots that fail in one of the most basic parameters - skiing in snow. Why are you not returning them under Sale of Goods Act rather than contemplating renting real boots for actually skiing in snow?

If you want comfortable shoes for apres take some fold up trainers in your pocket.


it skis just fine in snow, i had Andy test it in kuhtai last season, there are some issues in terms of fit as in it is not quite the fluffy slipper that it was supposed to be, then again if it is a fluffy slipper then you have the issues of not getting the control that you are looking for

in summary Andy measures 24.5 (skis in a race boot in that size) in this he had to go up to a 26.5 (they always said you needed to go up one size as their sizing was a bit random, but 2!!) this gave him a sole length of 310mm or there about as they run long... i wear a 28 and it is 320mm??? we couldnt test it again this year to see if there were improvemnts as they pulled out of the test at the last minute??

maybe it is the solution for some people, but it certainly isn't a mass solution and boot fitters of the world sure ain't going to be selling their tools and changing trades
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@CEM, Stacks up pretty well with my experience of the Apex. They really wanted to upsize me in the demo boot (this was at SIA so should have been their top team). I could feel just in the lodge I was swimming it. So I fought to get sized down t the right Mondoe- the liner boot was comfortable enough but still huge and ungainly once I got in the exo. About 15-10mm longer in the BSL than my Head boot

Then I had the worst alignment issues I've ever had - literally couldn't ski them straight and they blamed me saying maybe I was a bad skier because they had (old) ex Olympians as ambassadors who loved them. I don't think active skiers are really their target market.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, the apex is better than the Dahu by the looks of it... lets just say we won't be stocking either in the foreseeable future
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