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Poster: A snowHead
Sun 26-03-17 9:25
Replies: 52
I think the culprit is likely to be the norovirus, it's hard to kill, can live for weeks on hard surfaces i.e work tops, door handles, taps etc and a combination of densely populated hotels/chalets, less than scrupulous cleaning/hygiene practices and affected resort staff being 'persuaded' back to work before they should i.e 48 hour symptom free, is pretty much a perfect storm!
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Wed 22-03-17 14:51
Replies: 5
@Griggs, your thoughts would be much appreciated, thank you. Hope you have a lovely holiday. @sugarmoma666, thank you. I had read your TR and pretty much made up my mind that Madonna would be more my cup of tea. I should have added that were looking at w/c 27th January, so not a peak week.
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Wed 22-03-17 14:34
Replies: 15
I've been going to the grand massif several times a season, for 12 years. We loved the area enough to buy a chalet there which we had for 8 years, selling it a couple of years ago. Since selling we've still skied there, this year we rented an apartment in Samoens for 3 weeks in January. The whole area has undoubtedly undergone much needed improvements to the lift system and pistes but it now attracts very many more visitors and even in low season, when we go, it seems far busier and the well know pinch points mentioned by the OP are a big problem, especially to less experienced or nervous skiers. I know that there are plans to create new pistes, improve the tete de saix, replace lifts, put in new lifts but wonder when this will happen, Club Med is opening next season, I wonder how much will be done this summer? Certainly the development will make accessing the area from Samoens far less attractive, how will the chariande express cope with the increased demand? Marmottes and Dahu are very busy at the end of the day, not to mention perce neige, dangerously so in my opinion, and apparently there were queues of nearly an hour to download on the GME during half term week! I think the OP was pretty spot on with their TR, perhaps for those who are experienced skiers, comfortable in any conditions or those who spend a lot of time off piste it doesn't seem to be such a problem but you only have to look about to see that for a lot of beginners or average holiday skiers it can be very off putting, not to mention scary!
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Wed 22-03-17 12:25
Replies: 5
Already thinking about next season and have started to investigate options in both these resorts. Ive done a lot of online investigation, I've done a search on here and found 2 trip reports, one for each resort, reading these I'm even more inclined to go with my choice, which is Madonna. However my husband really likes Austria, has been to St Anton twice and would like us to go to Lech. We are both good intermediate skiers, my husband is better than me and on his 'boys' trips will ski most things on piste but on our holidays we like skiing well groomed pistes, (not after steep, moguls, or off piste), with a good lift system, lovely mountain restaurants and hopefully, uncrowded slopes. Whilst we both like some level of après i don't think either resort is particularly lively and both would probably suit. Would really appreciate any advice/opinions.
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Mon 20-03-17 18:52
Replies: 83
And of course I should have said what a tragic accident, every parents nightmare, my thoughts are with the family.
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Mon 20-03-17 18:06
Replies: 83
I was crashed into a few years ago by an 11 year old, resulting in me having 5 broken ribs, a punctured lung and spending a week in Sallanches hospital! He obviously didn't mean to injure me but he was skiing very fast and took off going over a large roller, hitting me, who he obviously couldn't see! Speed, lack of skill/control and hazard awareness are a real problem, especially on crowded pistes and I know a lot of people might not agree but I would definitely like to see piste patrols with the power to issue warnings and ultimately confiscate lift passes of those who disregard the FIS rules.
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Thu 16-02-17 20:27
Replies: 405
@alr1970, it was looking very dodgy when we were there last month, the number of warning poles towards the bottom made it look like a slalom course! It always surprises me that it remains open in that condition.
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Fri 3-02-17 16:27
Replies: 55
@Old Fartbag, absolutely, I was really surprised when they came straight out with the new skis, I was expecting to have to resort to tears ;-)
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Fri 3-02-17 16:09
Replies: 55
@HoneyBunny, yes it was just as you described, as if the skis were trying to kill me. Not funny! Thankfully it's all sorted, not sure I'll ever get them serviced though :lol:
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Fri 3-02-17 16:05
Replies: 55
Well I went back to the shop today, they don't doubt that I've had a problem since the service but they said they couldn't identify anything majorly wrong. They're going to take it up with rossignol and have given me a new pair of skis :D I couldn't have hoped for a better outcome!
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Fri 3-02-17 6:43
Replies: 55
Thanks for all your replies and suggestions. Someone who I was told is an expert with many many years of experience looked at the skis yesterday, which are still a nightmare, and said that they are slightly twisted, that they were twisted going through the machine! He did as rob@rar and gorilla had suggested and laid a flat instrument along the bases and reached that decision. I took them back to the shop yesterday but the boss wasn't there, I left the skis there and I'll go back today. Bottom line is i don't want the skis after they've been wrecked by a poor service, I'm hoping for a refund or new pair, we'll see!
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Wed 1-02-17 17:23
Replies: 405
@sj1608, ah I chickened out of taking out the new skis, didn't want to risk a day of faffing around, especially as it was so nice. I was on my old skis, they're not as good but at least I knew what I was getting! Going to try the new ones again tomorrow and after 3 trips to the shop in flaine to sort them out I really hope they're ok!
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Wed 1-02-17 16:46
Replies: 405
@sj1608, yes it was very slick today, certainly below 2000 metres, on the ski back over to Samoens there was the usual carnage down dolomie etc and that hadn't seemed to have softened up much. Once over in Samoens, after the very top of marmottes where I couldn't get an edge in anywhere :shock: it was quite springlike.
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Wed 1-02-17 16:36
Replies: 405
Well it's been a lovely sunny day, pistes started out quite hard but softened up in the sun, and in fact this afternoon felt quite spring like! There are areas where the rain has done some damage but we were surprised by how well they had held up, I can't comment on les Carroz or morillon but Samoens and flaine were ok. There was new snow at the top of the tete de saix, tourmaline and of course at the top of flaine itself, it was surprisingly good. The main problem is how much is closed, this concentrates everyone into a handful of pistes which isn't ideal in quiet weeks but will be problematic in the half term holidays. Hopefully the forecasted snow will fall and they'll be able to get more open.
Poster: A snowHead
Tue 31-01-17 21:47
Replies: 55
Well it's reassuring to know that other people have had the same experience, and that it's more likely to be the service than me! Thanks @gorilla, @rob@rar, @Layne, for your suggestions. Hopefully they'll behave themselves tomorrow and the problem will be solved but it does rather put me off getting them done again, although eventually I'll have to. The thing is how do you know who's good and who isn't, it's an expensive piece of kit and you assume that people know what they're doing!
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Tue 31-01-17 17:45
Replies: 405
@sj1608, well if you were to get your skis serviced in Les Carroz you'd be safe!
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Tue 31-01-17 17:38
Replies: 405
@sj1608, I haven't gone back to speak to them yet and I don't want to name them without talking to them first. I had been impressed with them up till today, it was where I bought the skis and the service was complimentary, I've just spent money trying to rectify a bad job! What I didn't mention was that the shop had also done my husbands skis and he had a problem as well. Not as bad as mine but that maybe because he's a more aggressive skier but we had to have his skis sorted as well!
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Tue 31-01-17 17:24
Replies: 405
@sj1608, well that was long overdue, that bottom bit of almandine is never that nice but it's been horrendous and looked more like a slalom course it had so many warning poles stuck in it! My new skis seemed to attract every stone going, I think I did most of the damage on portet and the bottom bit of timalet, although we went to les gets on Saturday and there was one red that was pretty much stoney from top to bottom!
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Tue 31-01-17 16:59
Replies: 55
@Mosha Marc, well thank you for that, glad it wasn't me , although I do hope it hasn't ruined my new skis. The guy I took them too today did it all by hand, but given I havent a clue about ski servicing I don't really know if he did the right thing or not! @foxtrotzulu, @under a new name, it's incredibly disconcerting, especially when you find out at the top of a lift and have to ski quite a long way!
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Tue 31-01-17 16:53
Replies: 405
@sj1608, that's good to hear, we chickened out of going to the top and just did a few loops of aup de veran and mephisto, the last time was about midday and it was trying to snow at the top of the lift but really more sleet. I think the freeze level has been up and down rather a lot in the last 24 hours coz it did seem like there was new snow on the top part of mephisto (albeit a bit wet). Tomorrow and Thursday look like nice weather so it'll be interesting to see how everything looks.
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Tue 31-01-17 16:08
Replies: 55
I bought some new skis 2 weeks ago, rossignol temptation 80's, and I loved them. Had them serviced after encountering quite a lot of rather stoney pistes. Went out on them today and oh my god I could barely ski!!! Now it had been raining and the snow was quite wet, the visibility not great, not my favourite conditions but I could hardly make the skis turn. I took them to a ski shop I've used in the past (not where they were serviced) and he said the edges had been sharpened for the full length of the ski, I.e including the rocker. He took the edges down, I went back out, still no good. I explained how and what I like to ski i.e reds, blues, not blacks and no off piste. He took the edges down again and I went back out but I still wasn't happy. He redid the bases and took the edges down further and they seemed better although by that time we'd had enough of the rubbish conditions and came home. I felt like some sort of mad woman, I went from confident skier loving the skis to skiing like a complete numpty........is it me or the service?? This guy said that putting the skis through the machine changes them and advised me to ask that they don't use it. Any experts here to offer advise/opinion?
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Tue 31-01-17 15:27
Replies: 405
We drove to flaine today to try to escape the rain but we didn't :cry: This morning wasn't too bad, visibility reasonable and the snow, whilst not great was ok, but by lunchtime it was raining harder, and really affecting the pistes, we had a nice lunch in michet and bailed! We've been here over 2 weeks, it snowed a lot just before we arrived and it was bitter cold which helped keep the snow pretty well, and conditions have been great with sunshine almost everyday until yesterday when the rain started. This rain is the last thing they needed, especially just before half term, it's had a very detrimental effect, especially where the snow was already very thin. The strange thing is that it's rained despite quite low temps, our car said 1.5 c in the car park at flaine, although I'm sure someone who knows a bit about meteorology would be able to explain. Fingers crossed the forecasted snow at the weekend arrives!
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Mon 23-01-17 17:44
Replies: 101
Hi, we're having a day out from the grand masif tomorrow and heading to the megeve area, accessing the area from the princesse lift. We've been a couple of times but don't really know the area, has anyone got any suggestions for mountain restaurants for a lovely lunch? Thanks in anticipation.
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Mon 23-01-17 17:19
Replies: 405
I agree @Chris Mason, it was definitely less busy today but still more people than I expected, I've been coming here 12 years and it's far more popular than it used to be and as a consequence the bottleneck areas are more problematic. I had exactly the same thought about the fencing before the tunnel by Les Molliets and the run that leads down to it will be mayhem at peak times as everyone is funnelled onto the same piste, it's not wide enough to cope with all the traffic heading towards the lifts at Les molliets. Does anyone have any idea why there isn't more snow being made? There are areas where more cover is needed and with nothing forecast for the next week I'd have thought they'd have been taking advantage of the cold temperatures.
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Sat 21-01-17 18:23
Replies: 824
Thanks all for your replies, we may well try les gets next Saturday. @Pamski, your description of the links around the grand massif is spot on, we've been coming here for 12 years and they've always been a problem at peak/holiday times but as the popularity of the area has grown the problems in the bottleneck areas are also growing. I don't think we'll be back to the area next year, with the opening of the Club Med village at Samoens 1600 we'll wait to see how things develop/until all the planned infrastructure of new pistes and lifts are in place. Loved les gets/morzine area when I went for the first time on Thursday of this week, just a bit difficult when you don't know an area and have to keep looking at piste maps!
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Sat 21-01-17 18:04
Replies: 405
Arrived in Samoens last Sunday, we're here for 3 weeks and couldn't have timed it better! It's been a week of blue skies, very cold temperatures and until today very quiet pistes, with no lift queues. Today however was very busy, lots of fast but not very good skiers paying no attention whatsoever to other piste users! We had an early lunch then headed home. Most pistes are holding up well with the exception of some lower slopes where there are blades of grass appearing and a few stones, and the piste back from Flaine to Samoens (the one that leads to the corblanche or vernant chair) was thin, chopped up, mogulled and not very enjoyable this afternoon. Anyone any idea why theyre not blowing more snow whilst it's cold, coz there are areas that could do with a bit more cover. On the whole a very enjoyable week, snow quality helped by the low temps but could do with more.
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Sat 21-01-17 14:57
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Thanks @zzz, Sorry to ask this here as it's not strictly snow or weather related but I'm sure there'll be someone who can answer this query....... My husband and I know the grand massif well and are currently here for 3 weeks, this is our first weekend and oh my god the amount of people on the slopes is horrendous, much like half term (but almost worse) and verging on the dangerous! We spent a very enjoyable day in Les gets on Thursday and were wondering if les gets/morzine suffers from the same influx of day trippers from the valley and Geneva (I've been reliably informed that this is who they are), attracted by cut price day passes! Thanks
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Thu 19-01-17 20:02
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Hi, just wondering if someone can help me. my husband and I had a day out from the grand massif, and spent a very enjoyable day in Les gets, we had booked la paika for lunch but ended up not going as we were unsure if you could get back to the perrieres lift without getting la turche drag (I hate drags), it wasn't clear from the piste map. Thanks
Poster: A snowHead
Tue 13-12-16 16:05
Replies: 4
My sister in law (a non skier) went to Les Barmes de l'Ours nearly everyday of our week holiday! She loved it but it was pricey!
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Tue 5-03-13 0:07
Replies: 349
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Mon 4-03-13 23:37
Replies: 349
Mephisto used to be a red but they regraded it blue at the beginning of last season. When it was red it was better coz you didn't get so many people on it but it really is much more blue than red!
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Thu 28-02-13 23:24
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I bought some dalbello's at the end of last season, they're my third pair of boots and the first pair that I haven't wanted to rip off my feet by lunchtime. I had become pretty despondent about finding comfortable boots but they're brilliant and I really feel my skiing's improved this season :D
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Tue 26-02-13 13:19
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Couldn't agree more, a fantastic week, only one French zone off really does make a huge difference (it was the same last year) :D
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Sat 9-02-13 22:41
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Hi Kay, yes we arrive friday (15th) evening, we have a place there and unfortunately are still tied to school holidays. The local area is not off the same week as us (it was last year) so I'm very optimistic! It really is a great ski area and obviously the conditions are fantastic at the moment so i'm sure you'll have a fab time.
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Sat 9-02-13 21:21
Replies: 349
I'm hopeful that half term won't be terribly crowded as there's only one French zone off (not Paris), partial GB and Dutch that week. It fell the same last year and it was the quietest half term I'd known in 10 years of half term ski holidays spent in France, (7 in the grand massif)!
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Sun 19-02-12 8:22
Replies: 35
Basil, Were you in the same Grand Massif as me, I thought it was the quietest I'd ever known it at half term in the 5 years that we've been skiing there. Obviously the conditions are brilliant and the whole area open but with only the Brits and one French zone it was just about as good as it gets for half term.
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Sat 18-02-12 9:09
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Got back last night, did Friday to Friday to avoid traffic and eurotunnel nightmare! The first 3 days were freezing but fantastic conditions just about everywhere, with the exception of the red down to 700 at Morillon, it was an ice field about half way down, it even had banners on it warning you, something I'd not seen before! We skied into flaine for coffee but didn't ski there as my friends only had massif passes, I have to agree that with the removal of the ballacha drags and the aup de veran out of action flaine is less attractive at the moment. Then the weather started to warm up, relatively speaking, and we had some new snow, thursday morning I skied in some of the best conditions I've ever known and the promised half term madness just didn't happen, most of the week we walked straight on to the lifts, including the bubble from Morillon, we had a couple of 5-10 min queues but I did notice that thurrsday afternoon (our last day) it seemed much busier in places. I've been going to the GM for 5 years, several times a season, this is pretty much the best I've ever known it and probably the quietest half term week I've experienced.
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Mon 6-02-12 23:00
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Mon 6-02-12 20:05
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I know you might all think I'm being rather optimistic but I'm quite hopeful that next week won't be as busy as some half terms I've experienced. There is only one french zone off, not Paris, and no Dutch or Belgians, so fingers crossed! At least we know the conditions are great, I was there 2 weeks ago for a long weekend and despite very poor visibility the pistes were the best I've experienced in the GM for a long time. I'm also very interested in the location of this underused restaurant, can't think which one that is :~/
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Tue 1-03-11 22:07
Replies: 20
Hurtle, don't worry it made me laugh :lol: and you're right about it hurting!
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