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Poster: A snowHead
Tue 22-08-17 22:16
Replies: 31
I've done a few weekends (long or short). Away from work a bit early (say 16.00) and at any of LHR, LGW, LCY, LTN or STN within about an hour. Flight around 1900, car hire in GVA about 22.00, in bed in Chatel about midnight (or 02.00 if beers/heavy snow involved). Ski Sat/Sun/Mon until last lift. Pack up at apartment, down to GVA for a flight around 20.00 and home about midnight. Into work the next day tired but with a big grin. We have occasionally done the 0700 Tuesday GVA flight but the 0400 alarm call is a bit brutal. 3 days skiing, 1 day holiday. Issues - takes out two weeks conventional Sat-Sat bookings on the apartment, for best cost need exactly 4 participants (one small hire car), we all travel hand luggage only, wouldn't even consider it with kids.
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Fri 21-07-17 10:20
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Or you can get round to Ardent by bus, take the gondola up to Lindarets (above the goat village) and then one high speed chair (you have a choice of two) up to the ridge above Avoriaz.
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Sun 9-07-17 0:15
Replies: 50
@Claude B, can you make it through to November on what you have currently got? Do you do many miles? If answers are yes and no then you could get by on the best of your current sets and then buy a new set of winters and leave them on all year. When they get below about 5 mm buy new winters for the other rims and use good winters in winter and second best set in summer. Only compromise there would be a bit of loss of summer performance. Based on a few years of running one car on two sets and swapping and the other (low mileage) car on winters all year round I reckon this would work well and be cost effective.
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Fri 9-06-17 22:53
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@Ian Kenvyn, it depends a bit on where you are heading. We do the route from Chatel towards Hoek frequently to visit Mrs DJLs family and go via Bern, Basel, Mulhouse, through the Vosges for a bit of interest then Nancy, Metz, Luxembourg (cheap fuel), Brussels, Antwerpen. Sounds like you are heading further South so towards Lyon is an option or you could go via Geneva/Annecy. Lyon is often horrendous on a peak weekend. Geneva may be not much better. It's a longer drive than to Calais but if you are on the night boat you could do it in one hit. If you are aiming to ski departure day and get the following day's night boat you could overnight wherever you fancy. Somewhere in the Vosges perhaps. Once you drop down towards Nancy it is a bit uninspiring.
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Sat 22-04-17 19:43
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@Matt1959, in my view follow your route to Pontarlier then Besancon to join the autoroute and Dole, Langres, Troyes, Reims, Calais. Should be 7.5-8 hours driving plus stops assuming light traffic. I usually allow minimum 10 hours from leaving Chatel to my Eurotunnel check in time.
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Fri 7-04-17 13:42
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@uysalt, Just spotted this (a bit late). I had X-Wave 8’s which I was happy with but they were a bit old and I’d managed to fold the overlaps wrong on one foot so they started digging into my shin which was a pain so I visited Colin at Solutions4Feet. After the usual fact find on my ability and intentions and a good look and measure of my feet he recommended Quest Pro 120s and they have been great. A new footbed went in and the shells were heat formed with a bit of extra space over one big toe that has a bump and that was it. I put them on and clip them up, walk to first lift, tighten them properly and leave them like that until I have finished skiing – could be 8 hours later.
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Thu 6-04-17 16:43
Replies: 66
@Chamcham, Rarely, though in heavy snow it may. With winter tyres I have never had a problem and if it was so bad as to completely close the PdM (top height 1450m) the road up through Abondance and La Chapelle would also be pretty hairy I guess. If only equipped with summer tyres it would be much more likely that the pass would be difficult to cross or would need chains whilst the valley road might be OK(-ish)
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Thu 6-04-17 14:28
Replies: 66
The route via Luxembourg is one we have used in the past for the reasons mentioned (no tolls, cheap fuel) but we usually go via Nancy and then through the Vosges to Mulhouse which is more scenic but a bit slower. These days we only use this route if we are going to/from my mother in law in the Netherlands or visiting friends in Mulhouse as the time it adds makes it a really long slog from Chatel to Colchester - about 15 hours door to door rather than 12 hours. I still think the best route is Calais-Reims-Troyes-Langres-Dole-Besancon (all toll motorway) then through the Jura via Pontarlier, cross the border at Vallorbe and then Lausanne-Monthey-Pas de Morgins and Chatel. Real world driving time 7.5 hours (plus stops).
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Wed 5-04-17 16:22
Replies: 66
@Ozboy, Keep it quiet but the best skiing in the PDS is consistently the area above Plaine Dranse, especially in difficult snow years. Let everyone else claim it's always best in Avoriaz "because it's higher". Glad to see you're making progress.
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Sun 26-03-17 8:58
Replies: 10
@liam6913, Chatel/Morgins link shut so you are foiled. I recommend a couple of laps of Coupe du Monde instead.
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Sat 25-03-17 16:30
Replies: 10
@liam6913, best check the links before you go for it on your mission. Looks like Chatel-Morgins is closed and if Chaux Fleurie is not running as @Paul_Shanks, reports it is probably because the piste down to Lindarets from the top of Rochassons is not fit to ski.
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Sat 25-03-17 9:02
Replies: 10
Yes, if you know the shortest route and don't hang about. From the bottom of Avoriaz take Tour chair, down to the French Mossettes lift, ski to Les Crosets, Swiss Mosettes lift, down to Col du Portes du Soleil, drop into Morgins via Tovassiere (long boring road), cross Morgins and take chair, ski to the drag to top of Chalet Neuf, from there down to Super Chatel. Pause for breath. Take the two new lifts to Linga via Vonnes. Down to Linga gondola followed by Echo Alpin chair. Itineraire piste all the way to the top of Pre La Joux chair then down the road to Plaine Dranse, Rochassons chair, ski down to Lindarets, lift up to the ridge and ski down to where you started. Roughly 20 lifts or runs (mostly lifts!) so at 9 minutes for each and no stopping you should just about make it. I always calculate timings on 10 mins per uplift or run and that is slightly conservative for our usual group. It is always faster if you are solo. Bonne chance!
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Thu 9-03-17 17:30
Replies: 824
It was pretty warm today. Once the rain stopped we headed to PLJ and then over to Avoriaz. Pistes were very good and grippy. Anything unpisted was very heavy. Up Mossettes and into the cloud. As soon as we dropped down the Swiss side it cleared and we had a really good day, no queues, not busy and Grand Paradis still skiable and as calm as ever. Den a bit of sunshine. As soon as we came back over to France it was into the murk again! Despite the temperature the snow will last a while yet.
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Thu 9-03-17 7:49
Replies: 824
@Pamski, do it ( you know you want to)! If it rains more than expected the long lunch option is even better. If you are heading for Le Torchon best to book ( but you're an old hand and knew that already). We didn't yesterday and had to stand around at the bar for 15 mins which was excellent as they felt sorry for us and gave us a kir. St Jean greatly improved since I was last there with the new fast chair from the top of the bubble and the new drag to avoid the tarmac dodging on the way back to the gondola base.
Poster: A snowHead
Thu 9-03-17 7:35
Replies: 824
Rain on and off overnight and looking damp down the valley with low cloud hanging about. 4C on the balcony and no sign of a snow line at 1700m - can't see higher as its in the cloud. Not ideal. Great day out round the Roc d'Enfer circuit. Two laps punctuated by a very fine lunch at Le Torchon just above the Follys drag lift departure. In there for about 2 hours which ruled out a third circuit but very enjoyable and run by a bunch of people who seem genuinely happy to see you.
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Tue 7-03-17 18:59
Replies: 824
Thigh deep on the red run down to the Onnaz lift. Visibility varied a lot but there was fresh snow everywhere and even runs that had been bashed had a decent layer on top. It was noticeably heavy below about 1500m but lovely stuff up high. Glad I had the fatter skis today. Tired legs now. Some spectacular wipeouts in our group but it's not so bad when you have a soft landing. Snowing again now in Petit Chatel and starting to cover the road.
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Tue 7-03-17 10:10
Replies: 824
Petit Chatel now open but Barbossine not (according to the app). Drags to Super Chatel and Tronchey chair still closed as at 10.08. Sounds like all will be open soon. Time to get dressed.
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Tue 7-03-17 9:44
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@alj, that big open field over from the side of Epervier is a frequent slider. Take care. We're just waiting for Petit Chatel/Barbossine to open. Don't fancy digging the car out!
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Tue 7-03-17 7:56
Replies: 824
It's snowing in Petit Chatel. It was snowing when we went to bed. I think it was snowing all night. It is forecast to snow most of the day. Why couldn't winter have arrived last week! Not ventured out yet but looking down to the parking area there looks to be about 40 cm and I can hear someone having an epic getting their car moving. A day to see whether 4x4 and winter tyres means chains won't be needed. Or maybe I'll just walk to Barbossine and start the day from there! Suspect it may be a slow start.
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Mon 6-03-17 16:30
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A couple of runs after lunch but then it started to blow and come down heavily. By the time we bailed out it was heavy rain at the bottom. Now snowing at 1300m and time for tea and cakes! Plenty of snow higher up but v soggy low down.
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Mon 6-03-17 13:44
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@Ozboy, currently raining at La Chapelle Cret Beni. Imagine it will be snow high up. Forestiere looked skiable when we went over it yesterday. Certainly last season it was full of rocks and with no snow cannons it is a bit low for reliable cover.
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Mon 6-03-17 8:29
Replies: 824
@BergenBergen, report updated. Now showing all open as at 08.22
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Mon 6-03-17 8:14
Replies: 824
Snowing steadily in Petit Chatel and according to the lift report Combes, Cornebois and Chaux Des Rosees are closed: http://app.infonet-online.fr/pdf/chatel.pdf Forecast shows gale force winds later!
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Sun 5-03-17 22:32
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Sun 5-03-17 22:24
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Still snowing at the moment and accumulating slowly in the car park.
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Sun 5-03-17 22:22
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Still snowing at the moment and accumulating slowly in the car park.
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Sun 5-03-17 22:16
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Still snowing at the moment and accumulating slowly in the car park.
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Sun 5-03-17 20:01
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@foxtrotzulu, snow at 1300m. Looked all white down to the valley floor at 1000m. 1C on our balcony so all good so far.
Poster: A snowHead
Sun 5-03-17 17:55
Replies: 824
A good start with about 12cm of fresh snow at Pre La Joux car park. Quite busy with queues big enough to drive us onto the Combes lift as Cornebois was busy. Much quieter around Super Chatel. Nice piste conditions (slightly heavy low down) and a bit of sunshine mid morning. Snow started up around 1400 and wind soon after. Upper lifts closed by 1430 so we called it a day. Been fair pelting down this afternoon at 1300m in Petit Chatel.
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Sun 5-03-17 8:02
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It's all turned white overnight down to valley level. Looks to be about 5-10cm on the cars at 1300 m and lots of avalanche blasting to be heard. Just the odd flake falling at the moment. 1C on the balcony. Off to investigate when we've had some breakfast!
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Fri 3-03-17 10:31
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@BergenBergen, How are conditions in Thollon? We had a day out there last year and really enjoyed the change of scenery. Usually do at least one of Thollon, Bernex or St Jean d'Aulps during a week. Any one know if Praz de Lys/Sommand is worth a visit or is the snow a bit sketchy this year?
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Thu 2-03-17 18:39
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Glad to see there has been some fresh snow. We are heading out tomorrow and in Chatel all next week. Any Snowheads likely to be around?
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Mon 27-02-17 11:22
Replies: 215
Anyone know what happened to Caprice? Broke a fingernail I guess
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Mon 27-02-17 8:19
Replies: 34
@supergreg, Top first post! But really? That blue stripy bobble hat.
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Tue 21-02-17 13:13
Replies: 10
Walk to the desk from arrivals hall is 2 minutes (if you walk slowly). From there to the car park is a short shuttle bus ride or a 5 minute walk. Cant help with a recommendation - they all seem much of a muchness to me.
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Fri 17-02-17 18:03
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Next week the Dutch will start arriving and with 2/3 of France on holiday and many Brits it will be a busy week. The following week a bit less with only 1/3 of France, no Brits but the Belgians and more Dutch joining the fun. Then from 4 March when yours truly arrives it will be all calm - hope there's some fresh snow before then though
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Sat 11-02-17 22:51
Replies: 824
@WindOfChange, good call. As always, if there's enough snow it's just the best place to go in a busy week.
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Fri 10-02-17 14:17
Replies: 80
@billb, I think you are correct however my belief is that winter tyres perform just a little bit worse than summer tyres in summer but very much better than summer tyres in winter. My wife’s Fiat Panda ran on winter tyres for the last five years with no noticeable issues other than a bit of extra road noise. Same point that @welshskier made I think
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Thu 9-02-17 22:03
Replies: 54
As a few have said rain often turns to snow as you go up the first lift. Pick a gondola rather than a chair if you have a choice. If wet in Chatel I park at Linga (1100m) with a gondola rather than Pre La Joux (1300m) which only has chairs. Then stay high. Other tip is put everything on (especially goggles) and then leave it alone. Constant on and off causes much sogginess and steaming up!
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Thu 9-02-17 21:43
Replies: 80
Only issue with running year round is to avoid getting to autumn with 3 mm left - too much to chuck out, too little for effective performance in the snow. I assess my winter tyres come spring and if they are getting too low (under 4mm) leave them on over the summer and then buy new in November. If over 4mm swap back to summers. This is made easier by having two sets of wheels and space to store them, not so straight forward if you are stuck for space.
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