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Poster: A snowHead
Fri 24-03-17 9:42
Replies: 31
@ColP, thank you. I have emailed SkiFix to see what they can do. EDIT: On review, I don't think I've emphasised the childcare enough - decent childcare, creche or nanny service, is absolutely no1 priority!!
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Fri 24-03-17 8:01
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If anyone is going next week theres currently an offer on lift passes online, 6 days for the price of 5. Save yourself about €50. I have just done this actually - used last year's card as well so saved €3!!
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Thu 23-03-17 20:20
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Thu 23-03-17 15:11
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@SlipnSlide, private lessons are also v expensive and until recently only two schools. iirc owned by the same guy. New Generation have just opened there, so will be interested to see what that does.
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Thu 23-03-17 14:57
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Hi, does anyone have a link to cheap ish ski hire st anton? Prices seem soooooo high! Twice the price of hire than in France! Cheers 😀😀😀 Just do what I did a few year ago for Mrs BB: 1) Wince in advance at price of hire 2) Go to resort thinking that I could negotiate a decent rate 3) Find out it's a big cartel and no cheaper 4) Drink 8 pints watching England v Italy 5) With my heightened sense of reasoning, me and the boys "work out" that it's surely better value to just buy a set of skis/poles... 6) Walk in a few shops and buy them for about £30 more than the hire Worked out OK in the end as: a) I had a bag in which I could bring her new skis back in b) Have used them a few time since for no cost If I only went to places like St Anton it definitely makes sense to buy (imo of course).
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Thu 23-03-17 14:42
Replies: 31
@Badbobby, I wouldn't discount Schladming completely. The easier/nursery slopes aren't on the main Planai hill, they're in a place called Rohrmoos, the slopes there are wide and very gentle (it's called the Rohrmoos plateau I think). You can stay in Rohrmoos itself (most places are ski in/ski out or a very short walk) or you can stay in Schladming but start your day at the Planai West lift for ski schools. If you decide to stay in Rohrmoos there are a few bars and restaurants or you can get the very regular bus in to Schladming that runs all day until fairly late. It takes just a couple of minutes. Flachau and Saalbach-Hinterglemm would be great options too. The monsters won't actually be skiing (they'll be 1yo and just under 3yo when we go), so I just need to be able to be on the piste with them to play about. So I'm just looking at avoiding getting a bus or bubble up to the main ski area. i.e. avoiding a Mayrhofen, Ischgl or Samoens type of set up. Cheers BB
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Thu 23-03-17 13:12
Replies: 31
@ousekjarr, thanks for the detailed info. @Richard_Sideways, thanks, too. Will investigate Flachau.
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Thu 23-03-17 11:54
Replies: 31
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Wed 22-03-17 18:07
Replies: 31
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Wed 22-03-17 16:42
Replies: 31
@ousekjarr, excellent. I've been drawn towards Saalbach so would be nice if it would work out. I've found the hotels are good for kids, but only after 4/5 years when they can go to the clubs.
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Wed 22-03-17 15:21
Replies: 51
@medlington, Good choice. @cameronphillips2000, Lots of macho men on the lash too Really? You surprise me.......plenty women looking like they're having a good time too ;-) Very true - we ended up chatting to some older lady and her daughters on one of hte Mooserwirt benches - she got smashed so I ended up skiing down with her skis on my shoulders as she serenely trotted down the side of the piste!
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Wed 22-03-17 14:26
Replies: 31
So Kitzbuhel doesn't have many friends here! Just to be clear, I only would like a nursery slope in town so I can mess around in the snow with the kids in the afternoon - it's not to actually get the older one on skis as she'll be just shy of 3. For my purposes, as a mile muncher, I'd like as large a resort as possible.
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Wed 22-03-17 12:42
Replies: 31
@Hamish, Thanks for the info. What do Snowheads think about Kitzbuhel?
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Wed 22-03-17 11:00
Replies: 793
@Ozboy, thanks for the gloves tip. Sounds like taking a rucksack with dry clothes is a good idea ;)
Poster: A snowHead
Wed 22-03-17 10:46
Replies: 793
@Ozboy, I've got the lessons booked in and they'll be what they'll be! Ideally there'll be some off piste, but my sister is coming for the first two days and therefore the first two lessons will be on piste as she won't do off. I've not had any lessons at all for 4 years, so it won't be a complete disaster if I don't get much off piste instruction - a few hours and decent pointers would be welcome though. Yes, the rain is my big fear! Never experienced it in a ski resort.
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Wed 22-03-17 10:21
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Fly on Saturday. Hoping it's going to hold up! Various hints of some snow on upper levels this weekend, but looks like next week might be clear skies again.
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Wed 22-03-17 10:11
Replies: 31
@cad99uk, nothing to be sorry about! Narrows my search down!
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Wed 22-03-17 9:59
Replies: 31
@cad99uk, bosh. Schladming crossed off the list!
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Wed 22-03-17 9:40
Replies: 31
@NickyJ, thanks - I used them last year in St Anton. It was very good with just one kid, but I wouldn't use it for 2 as you spend a lot to get extra space. I priced it up for this year with my dad and the one baby and it was prohibitively expensive for what you get, plus I want some peace and quiet in the evening. Also I'm not happy with their changes to allow older kids to eat with the adults. I have booked the flights so I am committed to DIY, which I much prefer anyway.
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Wed 22-03-17 9:03
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Hi everyone Now I have a new child, next year will be skiing with a 1 yo and an almost 3 yo. In an attempt to be a "proper" father, I am looking at getting the skiing sorted for 2018 well in advance so that we can book exactly what we want with maximum of choice. I was considering my usual French resorts near Geneva, mainly as I like the short transfers and they seem (to me) better geared up for younger children - more specialist chalets, council creche or British nanny companies. However, the timing of the French holidays has made me worry about the snow in some of these resorts if I go in March. Plus, if I'm honest, I prefer Austria for everything other than the childcare. With that in mind I have snared flights from Gatwick to Salzburg 24 Feb to 3 March and now commence the search for a resort. Vague requirements: - Max 1.5hrs away (don't want to mess around with car hire, bringing car seats/hiring them etc - just want an easy private transfer) - Decent size ski area with modern lifts - Nursery slopes in the town, not a bubble up to the ski area - Provision of self catered accomodation (kids too young for half board) - Aparthotel would be good, if it had a pool - Council/town creche (long shot) - Nanny availability - Flat(ish) town centre (non skiing grand parents might come) I've always wanted to do Saalbach and Zell/Kaprun. Maybe Schladming as well, but don't know much apart from them maybe ticking points 1 to 3. Heard good things from colleagues about Soll, Obertaun and Obergurgl, too. To be honest, I'm just guessing really. Welcome all your collective advice! Cheers BB EDIT: On review, I don't think I've emphasised the childcare enough - decent childcare, creche or nanny service, is absolutely no1 priority!!
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Tue 21-03-17 21:57
Replies: 51
St Anton is a bit of a perfect storm - apres culture, only one way down, the route gets mogulled even though it's not steep, it's also narrow (vs number of people on it) - so you end up with a load of people on it with a range of abilities all trying to get down. As a beginner you just want to pick a route and try and traverse down, but you can't as there are people all over the place, some fast, some slow, but either way it's a right pain.
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Tue 21-03-17 21:17
Replies: 58
@planeurge, so it looks like you're where I suspected - CDM retain the money until a booking is completed. Therefore they have your money IMO.
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Tue 21-03-17 14:53
Replies: 51
@medlington, are you chosing St Anton partly for the apres ski? If so, note that the main bars are on the home run which I dont think is suitable for a beginner, and they cannot be reached by downloading. She would need to catch a bus or taxi from the bottom to reach them. I agree with @jedster, where my wife also found it very difficult to progress - there are many other resorts that may be better suited to you both. Spot on. If you dont' care about the apres, then it'll be fine (ish) but if you want to have drinks at KKs or Mooserwirt then you pretty much have to ski down "Happy" Valley to get there.
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Tue 21-03-17 14:48
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@foxtrotzulu, Agreed. The pistes at Avoriaz aren't much higher than the resort/town, so its height is slightly misleading.
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Mon 20-03-17 23:01
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@zzz, Hi, I mean stuff that's deeper than the piste. Not fussed about perfect powder, just need to be able ti get better when I can't see my skis! ;)
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Mon 20-03-17 15:11
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Is there any off piste left in Avoriaz? I've got private lessons booked with an aim to practice - doesn't need to be perfect fluff, just enough to learn from.
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Mon 20-03-17 11:58
Replies: 58
@alex_heney, noted re the B2B. Certainly would make it problematic. Ultimately, you have to take a step back from where the money physically is - just because Budget and CDM have a B2B, doesn't change the fact that CDM have a consumer contract with Joe Public. It's not the consumer's fault that CDM can't get the cash back from Budget, even though Budget are double dipping. Additionally, worth working out if CDM are operating as an "agent" (in the legal sense) on behalf of whichever car hire company you end up using. Indeed, you end up signing all sorts of documents with the hire company once you pick up the car. Moreover, don't you have to sign up to the hire company's excess policy etc? In which case worth a go at the hire company to state that they've been paid twice for the same car. Worth also considering whether CDM keep the cash until the rental happens. e.g. Airbnb do not transfer the cash to the host until the guest arrives (or even leaves?). They might still have it and have an agreement with the hire company that allows CDM to keep the cash. Perhaps.
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Mon 20-03-17 9:49
Replies: 58
In the U.K. I'd take them to court for it being an unfair term and a penalty over and above loss of earnings, and that is exactly where the OP could be unfortunate, all the Agent has to say is "the service provider (AVis/Budget) in GVA has made no refund to us (CDM) because the client (OP) breached the contract by not turning up with the correct proof of drivers licence" Indeed. Starting the s75 claim with the credit card provider will hopefully flush that out in that CDM should state whether its sent the money to the hire company. Indeed, I'd be actively trying to find this out anyway. In which case, the target is therefore also the hire company for double dipping.
Poster: A snowHead
Sun 19-03-17 22:02
Replies: 58
This is a penalty and is not reasonable. So all of you saying @read the contract" are missing the point. In U.K. And Europe you're not bound by unfair terms and conditions. The broker would only be making a margin/finders fee from the actual rental company, so the most they could reasonably charge you is their lost profit. In the U.K. I'd take them to court for it being an unfair term and a penalty over and above loss of earnings, and be fairly happy to take the risk of losing. Not sure how easy it is to deal with a non U.K. Company. But im happy to deal and accept the risk - maybe not the right answer if you don't know what to do. Re the credit card, as you used a broker, I suspect that they will say that the debtor/service chain has been broken as you didn't book/pay the rental company directly. Good luck though. Ps. Read recently about some Geneva car hire companies cancelling the booking and keeping the money if you turn up late....
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Sat 18-03-17 21:05
Replies: 793
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Fri 17-03-17 11:52
Replies: 793
@charliesimpson, very kind. I always got off on the way back from Ardent at the bridge and walked over into the town - I have always been worried that it would be full if I did the reverse, especially over NY when I have been twice, so i've always wimped out of getting it in that direction!
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Fri 17-03-17 10:17
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@zzz, many thanks. Looking at the forecast you look spot on :( Rain below the top of Plenny. I've now only got day one, the Monday, in Plenny. But it might be sensible to get them all to meet at the top of Prodains! As an aside, from where is the best place to pick up the bus to Ardent - in terms of best place to get on and get a seat? In the past few years I've always started at Prodains and finished at Arden (normally after a Lindaret lunch!), but I've never started from there.
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Fri 17-03-17 9:06
Replies: 9
I tend to alternate;) The buses were a bit of a faff and a squeeze, plus you had to hang around a bit for them - so skiing all the way is quicker as you're always on the move.
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Fri 17-03-17 8:00
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Absolutely!! As per other replies, you could do it before getting the bus to Zurs from the Valfargrbahn and skiing all the way then getting a bus back from lech to the Val lift. Quite trying going all the way from the top of the lift all the way down to KKs after a massive day though!!
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Thu 16-03-17 14:48
Replies: 26
Thanks all. Looks like i'll keep my powder dry on Geneva flights and wait for 3rd and 10th March to become available. Or consider Zurich. tbh, with my v young family, I'm inclined to go with France (Morzine) as I've been a few times, its plentiful supply of self catered digs plus in town creche.
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Thu 16-03-17 12:55
Replies: 26
@moody_git, Ah, is that because it's the combo of UK + France (and prob some other countries) that make it so busy? Therefore, once it's just the French it's ok? Do the Parisiens typically go skiing on their first weeek rather than the second, especially with it being a bit later next year?
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Thu 16-03-17 10:31
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@snowdave, Many thanks. I was keen to go earlier in March to help manage the snow and keep lower resorts more of an option. Also I don't like having to wait for ages after Xmas to get away ;) Flights to Zurich a week later are now available on Swiss (BA haven't released their mid March flights yet), and they're the same price. So I might have a think about that - although the train transfer isn't an option as i'll have 2x children under 3... Not sure which resorts I'd go to from Zurich. St Anton would be my default, but not by train. Maybe Ischgl, but expensive private transfer.
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Thu 16-03-17 9:26
Replies: 26
Hi all Thought I'd resurrect this thread, rather than start a new one. I'm looking at flights now for next year and the BA ones from Heathrow to Geneva are looking pretty good value. Considering 24 February to 3 March 2018. However, I'm concerned that this seems to be half way through the French holidays... these dates would would be the second week of C (inc Paris) and the first week of B. So the flights are cheap due to it not being UK half term, but would I be right in saying that it's going to be very busy? Especially if I end up in Morzine, which is easy for the French to drive to. Many thanks BB
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Wed 15-03-17 13:48
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@Dr John, Thanks - I'm a regular at Morzine, so getting around is pretty straight forward (once you've done it a bit). Was more checking what the snow conditions are like. But yes, I am doing some off piste stuff so sounds like I'd best get them moved.
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Wed 15-03-17 12:05
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@Dr John, I've got 12 hours of tuition booked during w/c 25 March - 9.30 to 12.30 each day. I'm based in central Morzine and the instructor says I can have them in Avoriaz or Morzine. For ease, I was going to have the first couple in Morzine as I've got to drop my daughter in creche first. But, would you say that I should move them all to Avoriaz now in case they try to book anything in the pm starting from Plenny?
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