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Poster: A snowHead
Thu 27-04-17 0:16
Replies: 911
@johnE, fortunately last time we used the bus, they let us put the bikes in the under-belly of the vehicle so we didn't have to ride back! The only uphill I do (I'm an old git) is the road up from 1950 to 2000, where I meet Mrs and Mini Roll who've come up in the cabriolet... Managed it 8 times in 10 days last year: which, on low pressure, fat, off-road tyres and large belly and no cleats, is if not in TdF class, still an achievement. [ /proud of self ] We only did the black by accident, when they closed the blue down to 1600 while doing the earthworks for the training piste and so directed us (a family FFS... on hardtails...) down the black. We... err.. walked it. :oops: That turn below Villaroger can be quite 'interesting' to find: we've done both routes, and although there is a short seriously sharp climb out from the river towards Seez, I think it is the more direct route - even if it is 'wrong'! We're now booked for 5th August for 2 weeks. Let's try to catch up.
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Wed 26-04-17 17:15
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@johnE, not sure about it been 'guided' - but it is at the bottom of both a black and the 'park' routes, as well as a lovely blue run around the hill from 1950/2000: so you'll have heard me and the family in there in our best cycling lycra (but no body armour: we don't do the crazy stuff). It's a good stopping off point for lunch for sure. Sometimes we even cycle back! (Otherwise the navettes really do come into their own when tired, and faced with that climb from Pre St Esprit.)
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Mon 24-04-17 10:17
Replies: 911
I'd guess 75% of Arc1950 traffic this year is UK / Irish - but again, unscientifically based on voices at ski-school start / bakery / evening bars. All of which may be over-represented. May well change as more apartments are being bought by the French for personal use rather than renting out through TOs. But IIRC it is only in the last 15 years that the UK has "noticed" it: I certainly recall changing minibusses on the way to Tignes at BSM in circa 1995, and pointing at the Funicular, asking 'Where's that?' to be told, 'Oh Les Arcs? that's where the French ski'. Summertime is entirely different, when 1950 becomes almost exclusively French. Well, 95% plus. What's it like elsewhere in the domain? @johnE, my luges pre-date the Rodeo, used exclusively on the sledging slopes of 2000 and 1950. Seem to recall a lot of walking back up hills then too... (Never did take them all they way down to Pre St Esprit in the evening for the bus - that would be naughty. :lol: )
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Sat 22-04-17 15:42
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@valais2, @Thornyhill, quite. 340,000 / 2150 = ... well, lets say a lot less than 10%. About 0.6% in fact...
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Sat 22-04-17 8:40
Replies: 911
PS we have 4 plastic luges in the cupboard that are no longer required: available to a good home in 1950 / 2000. Make me an offer! (even "I'll take them off your hands" would be considered)
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Sat 22-04-17 8:38
Replies: 911
@Richie_S, I hate that Rodeo thing with a passion! My knees don't bend that way, my core can't hold me in that sitting position for long enough, steering appears to be a black art, etc.etc. And yes, it's a damn long walk in slush. Doing it 3 times is, IMHO, 3 times too many. Fortunately Mini Roll has grown out of it. But I guess going through that kind of experience, with the love and sacrifice demanded, is what defines parenthood... :lol:
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Thu 20-04-17 14:52
Replies: 911
@johnE, we SO agree about Clocheret: along with the Carreley run it is the one we do most. It is beautiful. But it is the crowding across everywhere that I'm concerned about. I was taken out on that 1600 home run: the links running down to Vagere / Transarc can be a nightmare: and the sheer ant-like behaviour in the 2000 bowl is beginning to look like Piccadilly Circus at rush hour. Having said that, I don't think we waited more than 5 mins anywhere in the fortnight before Easter (excepting Aguille Rouge): it's not the lifts, it's the sheer volumes on the piste that are getting out of hand. [/old git mode] I'd too love to see what's happened to the Beguin, and agree: front side - wow; backside? Well the name says it all. Are you out in the summer, maybe we could go for an explore!
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Thu 20-04-17 13:43
Replies: 911
... the back of Col de la Chal (and yes, all that that entails with infrastructure investment) ...Wouldn't that stray in to the national park? Some lovely terrain down there, but I think development wouldn't be allowed? Oh yes, I'm sure there is an environmental impact, as well as the Vanoise Park issue. But confess as to being at a bit of a loss as to where else you might expand the domain. Malgovert Forest? I suppose the 2019 upgraded Combourciere might make that a feasible target (I am concerned about having increased inappropriate footfall through the Malgovert piste as it stands: albeit re-designating from red to black might ease that fear...) - although return to 1600 isn't going to be easy if you drop below the road, and , it is low. Another option might be replacing the Clocheret lift and opening up that face a bit more to reduce congestion: but would potentially ruin some great, great runs. And the powder field above the snowpark would become just another area to be tracked out before 11am (now that really is selfish...!). I can see Arolles getting busier too as the new hotel comes onstream. Bah. I'm sure there are options within the domain's current boundaries, I just don't want any of them to become mainstreet: I like the backwaters, thank you very much! (X-post with JohnE)
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Thu 20-04-17 12:56
Replies: 911
@thefatcontroller, @rob@rar, @Layne, supposed to be a 7 minutes transit time for the new lift, and 6-8 m closer to the 1950 village as it passes through. And yes, with access to Plagnettes. I'm thinking it has a number of purposes: 1) to accommodate the new build just below 1950 (about 300 beds for both apartments and seasonnaire accommodation - was going to be hosted chalets, but VIP, the owner TO, has reconsidered in light of Brexit) - which may or may not be able to access Marmottes / Bois de L'Ours directly. 2) enable the council to develop the PsE car park as a defined (and hence chargeable!) access point to the domain 3) as you say, to relive the immediate pressure on Arcabulle - although whether Plagnettes will be able to cope is another matter! Like Layne, we've also been considering where the terminus will be: if to skiers' right of current Plagnettes lift , hope that there will be some thought to those having to cross the conjunction of Teppes, Tuffes and Plagnettes pistes ( which is always a bit of a race track in preparation for the flattish bit down to Arcabulle) to reach the next uplift. But I'm sure it's been designed with this in mind... I think we are very likely to use it from 1950 - the route down is a great warm up before '1st lift' rather than having to do a Marmottes circulation: but never considered while it takes 15 mins to get back to, well, nowhere! Tree felling is supposed to begin in May. Will report back with photos from summer visit. The addition of 1000+ beds to the domain is not without its issues - there still appears to be no increase in available pistes: and with high speed lifts, fewer people standing in queues, that inevitably means higher density per piste, with concomitant problems. They may say that Cascades (or as it appears to be now called "Valley de l'Arc 1") and Mont Blanc pistes are under-utilised, but I'm not convinced that without expanding to, say the back of Col de la Chal (and yes, all that that entails with infrastructure investment) that we can take much more at peak times. He says selfishly, having been a 'new bed' back in 2003!
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Thu 20-04-17 8:06
Replies: 911
@snowcrazy, thanks - we'll certainly try to make it. As you say, it is the off piste which offers the opportunities - but without a guide or local knowledge (and yes, in the past you've taken us to some great unknowns, that's is without question) I would hesitate to explore. In fact... I wouldn't. But the pistes? meh. :sH:
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Wed 19-04-17 21:31
Replies: 911
@snowcrazy, I'm intrigued. I get your passion for the off-piste accessed from the Bellecote - but frankly I find the bowl itself to be a bit of Emperor's New Clothes. All mouth, no trousers. From a Les Arcs perspective, it's a long way to go (timewise) , the lift system is downright shoddy, museum worthy in fact, and the snow no better than stuff we have significantly closer to home, indeed all over the domain. In fact I'd call it a tick-box set: punters gotta say they've done the 'Bellecote' . But as a local, why your continued fascination?
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Sun 16-04-17 13:31
Replies: 157
@howiet, but I hope I can, is that he is the manager of a beer shop in Alpe d'Huez, not a pile em' high booze dump but a craft beer shop that sells various brews from a small craft brewery in Bourg d'Oisans. Very nice I found it too. You can find him in the Bergers shopping centre, and yes he does give you free samples Very Happy Damn: you should have said - walked passed a few time looking for shoe-laces (long story...) Oh well, shall know for next time! Enjoy what's left of the season. AR
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Sat 15-04-17 18:39
Replies: 911
@johnE, think you'll fine Combettes closed too... ;-) Also Combociere. BTW rumour has it that with Pre St Esprit upgrading this year, and another 300 odd beds going in just below 1950, they plan to upgrade Combociere for the 18/19 season.
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Thu 13-04-17 22:34
Replies: 911
Poster: A snowHead
Thu 13-04-17 22:18
Replies: 911
Mini Roll roll has been a bit off colour these past couple of days so not been out. Real shame, as the pistes, as above, have been hard work but excellent fun. ( and you know what they say about good days, bad days, mountains and offices...). Nevertheless, worth mentioning that it is not all perfect. The Cachet lift in 1600 is closing Friday, but the Mont Blanc is more than adequate. Vagere needs your skis off to get to. Seen people preferrring to grass ski to Carrely rather than use the strip of mush. We've skied mainly the 1800 side late mornings, but not below Arpette if possible. And even that is a quagmire by lunchtime. Then gone back to 2000 for the pm. The blacks under Varet today were simply wonderful this pm: Lanches, and Dou d l'homme ( twice) just excellent snow conditions. If a little busy - yes,there were so many people on the mogul runs, you had to look up hill before restarting each time! So our view is: it's been great, really, really great, but don't expect cordoroy or powder. Just enjoy the exercise and the sun. Our last day tomorrow so will make the best of it: then back for VTT / MTB in about 15 weeks... it's all go!
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Thu 13-04-17 8:38
Replies: 911
@Gillap, you could try the Bulle , up by the Arcabulle lift. Can get to it from Marmottes. Or as suggested above the bakery in 1950 is great.
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Sun 9-04-17 16:27
Replies: 4
Suggest, as you might expect with my declared interest, Les Arcs 1950. Meets all requirements for creche, great ski school and snow sure for any time of the season. DIY or TO whichever suits, train plane or automobile friendly, it really does tick your boxes.
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Fri 7-04-17 22:17
Replies: 911
So a late night update, excuse speeling errors... Another great day of piste skiing, as long as you keep high. Weather outstanding, it's tee shirt time. As per radio ' R les Arcs ' 97.4fm , 2000 bowl in the am, switch to the 'front' face of 1800 /1600/ peisey mid late morn. Froide Fontaine and Carrely are superb between 11.30 and 12.30. We reckon it's 11/ 12 mins to lap depending on Arpette queue, so you should be able to get 5 runs in per hour. .. we have! Arondlieres and Grand Col start to slush up by about 3.30. Lanches and Dou de l'homme big moguls, steep, a ' challenge' even late in the day. But oh so worth it. And we think are capable of staying open for a couple more weeks- there are no bare patches on the hill yet. They reckon 145km of piste still open on Arcs side, which can't be bad. We're off to LP tomorrow, see what we can see over there. So long as the rain stays away, anyone out tomorrow or Sun (as above) you going to love it.
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Wed 5-04-17 13:40
Replies: 911
@Gillap, @Richie_S, plenty of snow about, been snowing most of the morning in fact. Now blue skies and starting to slush up but it really is great conditions. We've another 9 days left, and not anticipating getting the mountain bikes out ( although there were some on the funicular last week. ..)
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Sun 2-04-17 16:37
Replies: 911
Great day today. Light snow all morning g meaning good couple of cm on the pistes.. A bit windy, Arcabulle closed until about 1pm.Plagnettes open though, so had to go up Varet to get to the top of Col De la Chal . Apart from the top 200m of Arondlieres being like glass (!) itwas glorious snow up that high. It also meant very few people up there. No ice, no moguls, no people. Lovely! In fact as good as it gets in April. We came back to 1950 at about 2.15 and the spring snow was in evidence. Heavvvyy. Started snowing again about 3.30 :not settling on cleared areas, but is on piste. Another fine day beckons if they can keep The Col clear of the hordes!
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Thu 30-03-17 13:11
Replies: 911
Heading to the arcs tomorrow (E-star for a night in Paris, then morning TGV). Expecting 3 or 4 hours skiing a day max, and a great 2 week holiday in the mountains. Can't wait.
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Fri 24-03-17 18:12
Replies: 120
@snowglider, I've just been through CompareTheMarket.com and ended up, with a fistful of pre-conditions, with Just Travel Insurance. They seem to specialize in insuring those of us with pre-cons, and are backed by a Lloyds syndicate (whatever that's worth) I have no idea about their quality, but annual for a family of three, with winter cover, was £138. If you want the summer sport uplift (e.g. mountain biking, white water etc.) it was an additional £20 each. Off piste is covered so long as you follow local advice (it specifically says "if the resort says don't go without a guide, then don't go without a guide" - but does't seem unduly concerned if no such warning, or about avalanche risk ratings)
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Sat 18-03-17 22:08
Replies: 228
@sparklies, bordsurfin That's interesting the price is around 4Km2.. I thought it would be a lot more from looking in the window of Erna Low! (yes, I looked, ha ha!!) The difference between what they want, and what they get... I also, may have inadvertendly quoted GPB rather than EUR, which while not 1:1 does make a difference! (especially when we bought, at ~ 1.6 - ie paid £250k aka €400k. If I sold for €400k now, I'd be chuckling...) I'm attempting to find various emails with more accurate assessments: but don't forget that taxes, officials and realtor charges, do add around 25 - 30% on that window figure.
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Sat 18-03-17 17:12
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@boredsurfin, she (...!) wants a lot more than she's likely to get... I think purchase was 7k per m2, wants at least 6. Current crop of sells seem to be going for about 4. + Fees and VAT, naturally.
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Sat 18-03-17 15:25
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@Richie_S, we're there 1st - 15th April, (well OK: 14th, train home home on the 15th) - if you are around during that time and want to have a closer look, pm me.
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Sat 18-03-17 11:03
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@sparklies, I know an Arc1950 owner of a 4 bed duplex of 100m2 who is interested in selling... :lol:
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Fri 17-03-17 22:24
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Fri 17-03-17 19:25
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@Richie_S, dammit, just wrote a long post saying how the 7 blocks ( Refuge, Hameau, Prince, Jardins, Auberge, Sources and Manoir) differed very little in the important aspects (apartment size, boot rooms and piste access, and comfort) and the damn thing crashed on me. Oh well: I'm not retyping it. So: Yes there are differences, just not a lot, and not worth worrying about!
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Fri 17-03-17 11:59
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@valais2, @Yoda, :blush: been there done that - a run back into Motteret. Off to the side of the blue piste by 3, 4 m, was convinced I was going correctly. Suddenly upside down in a drift. Took ages to dig self out, and plenty of energy too. I was seriously worried at the time. Of course, no-one around to see the fall or help (even if there was, they wouldn't have seen me, as I wasn't on the piste anyway...). Lesson learned. "Learn the ways of the poles, young Skywalker".
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Thu 16-03-17 0:26
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@sparklies, great to hear the family enjoyed Refuge - Mrs Roll's favourite run, but yes the moguls are like buried VW Beetles...so respect too. Now take them down Lanches - under the Varet - to see how well they've learned the mogul lesson... (only kidding. Please don't. 1.5km of moguls and a long way to slide. Enjoy it from the bubble.) As @Richie_S says, the Carreley and Froide Fontaine reds (accessible from Arpette, Vagere or Carrely chairs) are some lovely runs, and very, very quiet, even at busy periods. We can lap them for days: hopefully this post doesn't alert too many people to them! The other empty place are the runs from Clocheret - but first thing, the blue can be more icy than the red so be careful until you get back in the sun. One last thing, if you can help - bit of a discussion going on in the village about "the tree". I'd like to get an independent view , so what are the family's thoughts on it - signature statement, or eyesore? Feel free to pm me if you'd prefer - thanks.
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Wed 15-03-17 15:56
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France has orange tips on skiers right, no orange tip (so fully black/red/blue/green) on skiers left. This is one of those things that I've known for a long time... but have to check every time I go skiing as to which the orange is: left or right: due to a shortish of memory space on the old grey disc. At least I do know to look on first run of each visit, and re-establish it firmly in my mind for the trip. It's a godsend in fog/cloud/whiteout conditions to know you are on the piste, not following just outside.
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Mon 13-03-17 22:57
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@sparklies, great to hear your reports - and so positive too: keep them coming! Have you & the family ventured out in the evenings around 1950 yet? You do need to pop into Georges' - kids' board games in there are ex-Roll clan from our younger days: but keeps them occupied while you sip on your vino. (Hint - buy by the bottle: considerably cheaper than the glass. And if you don't finish, he'll hold it for you until tomorrow). Say hi from me!
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Mon 13-03-17 11:53
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http://www.accuweather.com/en/videos/moose-runs-alongside-skier-in-colorado/u4m2s5yte6drfawvltgvg0sogh9ais5h
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Mon 13-03-17 10:11
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@Tiesto, just for comparison ("I took 7 hours of video") ... Even 'cheap' -eg student films from the NFTS - will shoot at a ratio of 35:1 ie 35 mins in the can will result in 1 min on screen. Hollywood can be 100+:1 (think about that for a moment - 100 minutes of "action.... cut" for every 1 minute on screen... and that's not including all the rehearsals, and blocking, and lighting, and makeup, and set dressing, and script-writing, and and and. Want to know where the money goes when making a blockbuster?!) Obviously with gopro / phone you can extend that ratio to "huge", as the process and costs are much lower and you're are probably shooting a lot more speculatively than film-makers with a storyboard to follow (even if you are not doing multiple takes of the same shot). So the message is: editing is the key. Be prepared to spend a lot longer on the keyboard than on the piste!
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Sat 11-03-17 15:16
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Wed 8-03-17 13:31
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@sparklies, Skiset is on the ground floor of the building you've ended up in. If you look at the street from the 'Clocher' webcam, it's behind the big tree on the left! Precision for boots is about 20 yds further up the street, on the other side of the piste http://www.arc1950.com/en/live-from-the-village-webcams-weather.html You are right, there is a lot of "cross branding" between the various hire shops in 1950 and 2000 (one might be tempted to say 'a cartel', but that would surely be pejorative...) Enjoy!
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Tue 7-03-17 21:56
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@sparklies, Trying to find out if any of the owners in 1950 buy boots locally: quite a few hire for friends and visitors, not sure if I've actually seen a buying recommendation. I'll come back if I find anything. So I've found a thread from the summer (it's behind a paywall for owners only): a couple of people have come back with our favourite locals, Seb and Thibaud up at Equilbres in 2000 : they don't do custom footbeds, but seem to have solved some quite tricky feet... If nothing happens before you go, you can always pop in and ask... http://equilibres.free.fr/ There's also a shout out for an individual in Precision in 1950 (name forgotten bleah) . Both shops would appear to be able to deal with boots bought eleswhere that need a tweak after a few days on the snow - which may also be what you end up needing HTH
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Tue 7-03-17 21:34
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@sparklies, Bartlett have now added the ability to book appointments rather than just queuing - call them for a time and date (hope to be up there in a fortnight with my daughter: I get to go to CEM next week!). http://www.skibartlett.com/ski-boot-fitting-i45
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Tue 7-03-17 9:34
Replies: 911
@thefatcontroller, @rob@rar, what sort of temps are we looking at ?
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Mon 6-03-17 19:21
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@thefatcontroller, lovin it! Just hope there's enough base and low temps in March to make it last until we get there on 1st April...
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